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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:15 pm 
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Kinda funny that one of the ads on the Webio home page is for:
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I would advise North & Hernandez to maybe avail themselves of their sponsor's services. And I would advise Trotter to accept cash only for their services.


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So much blind hatred...

Look, when North did his dontfademe shit, I thought it was the stupidest fucking thing in the world. Webio WAS/IS a good idea. If someone really gets behind it (money wise) it WILL work.

What I don't understand is how can Hernandez fire North, Bebe, Spaceball? If nothing else, there should be a wrongfull termination lawsuit coming. I've got a feeling Hernandez is going to be in big, big trouble here.

Everyone is so quick to blame North on this one, but NO ONE knows the whole story. NO ONE. I'd guess Webio WILL be on the air Monday, at that will be a must listen. I hope every one of them lays into that motherfucker Hernandez.

Before anyone says it, no, I do not have any connection to anyone involved in this, so fuck off.

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So much blind hatred...

Look, when North did his dontfademe shit, I thought it was the stupidest fucking thing in the world. Webio WAS/IS a good idea. If someone really gets behind it (money wise) it WILL work.

What I don't understand is how can Hernandez fire North, Bebe, Spaceball? If nothing else, there should be a wrongfull termination lawsuit coming. I've got a feeling Hernandez is going to be in big, big trouble here.

Everyone is so quick to blame North on this one, but NO ONE knows the whole story. NO ONE. I'd guess Webio WILL be on the air Monday, at that will be a must listen. I hope every one of them lays into that motherfucker Hernandez.

Before anyone says it, no, I do not have any connection to anyone involved in this, so fuck off.

Who's going to put up big money to run something that brings in NO money?

Maybe there are real reasons the 3 got shitcanned, you are taking north's word as gospel-seems to be a dumb move on your part. He's a con artist and has been shown to be a perpetual liar for years.


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Score is doomed wrote:
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So much blind hatred...

Look, when North did his dontfademe shit, I thought it was the stupidest fucking thing in the world. Webio WAS/IS a good idea. If someone really gets behind it (money wise) it WILL work.

What I don't understand is how can Hernandez fire North, Bebe, Spaceball? If nothing else, there should be a wrongfull termination lawsuit coming. I've got a feeling Hernandez is going to be in big, big trouble here.

Everyone is so quick to blame North on this one, but NO ONE knows the whole story. NO ONE. I'd guess Webio WILL be on the air Monday, at that will be a must listen. I hope every one of them lays into that motherfucker Hernandez.

Before anyone says it, no, I do not have any connection to anyone involved in this, so fuck off.

Who's going to put up big money to run something that brings in NO money?

Maybe there are real reasons the 3 got shitcanned, you are taking north's word as gospel-seems to be a dumb move on your part. He's a con artist and has been shown to be a perpetual liar for years.


Who the fuck said I was taking Norths word as gospel? Reading is a skill, learn to do it. I said NO ONE knows what really happened.

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You are spewing what he said, dimwit. Hopefully, this will be the end of north


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Jack Bauer wrote:
Score is doomed wrote:
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So much blind hatred...

Look, when North did his dontfademe shit, I thought it was the stupidest fucking thing in the world. Webio WAS/IS a good idea. If someone really gets behind it (money wise) it WILL work.

What I don't understand is how can Hernandez fire North, Bebe, Spaceball? If nothing else, there should be a wrongfull termination lawsuit coming. I've got a feeling Hernandez is going to be in big, big trouble here.

Everyone is so quick to blame North on this one, but NO ONE knows the whole story. NO ONE. I'd guess Webio WILL be on the air Monday, at that will be a must listen. I hope every one of them lays into that motherfucker Hernandez.

Before anyone says it, no, I do not have any connection to anyone involved in this, so fuck off.

Who's going to put up big money to run something that brings in NO money?

Maybe there are real reasons the 3 got shitcanned, you are taking north's word as gospel-seems to be a dumb move on your part. He's a con artist and has been shown to be a perpetual liar for years.


Who the fuck said I was taking Norths word as gospel? Reading is a skill, learn to do it. I said NO ONE knows what really happened.




Nort does, thats why hes going out of his way to make Hernandez look like a dead beat, lying, thief.

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I was a Big Fan of radio writer Robert Feder at the SunTimes & today I wish he was here, he never took the PR crap & always cut thru the BS. (he retired early last year due to the economy)

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Look, when North did his dontfademe shit, I thought it was the stupidest fucking thing in the world. Webio WAS/IS a good idea. If someone really gets behind it (money wise) it WILL work.


Dude, you're over your skis here. Anyone with half a brain knew this was a terrible business plan. You can't make enough money on the internet with a LOCAL show. You need a national audience and hundreds of thousands of hits per day. Hernandez was crowing to the esteemed journalist Ed Sherman that they had 7,000 to 10,000 hits per day...that translates into less than $100 per day in internet terms. Sounds to me like he didn't even undertsand the metrics. Anyone that knows the internet knows that those paltry stats are an embarasmment and never would have referenced them. Oh, and he said they were profitable, and like you, Sherman never questioned it. Too many naive lemmings in the world. Thats why things are so screwed up right now.

The webio concept was doomed to failure from the moment it was conceived and will never be successful with this crew. Come on folks, think for yourselves, use your head. This ain't rocket science.

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aparicio wrote:
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I'm just a fan...using my real name herre. You can probably look me up. I live in Batavia, IL. I dont work or know anyone in the Radio biz. I am a Sales Manager for a German company who make connectors & factory automation controls components. Wife, 3 kids, 22, 18 & 17.

I'm just a fan who loves sports and who admires people who have achieved the American dream & who take risks and chances and who aren't ready to call it a career and ride off into the sunset just yet...

Feel free to resume your conspiracy theories about me...I need to go paint the front porch...


German company, huh? You're not helping yourself on the conspiracy front:

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You are spewing what he said, dimwit. Hopefully, this will be the end of north

Listen Score is Down Syndrome, I ain't spewing shit. Thursday everything appears to be fine. All of a sudden Hernandez is called out on bouncing checks, and the three of them get fired on Friday?? Something's wrong there. You're so clouded by your hatred of North, that if he told you the sky is blue, you wouldn't believe him. As I said before, the gambling website was stupid as hell, so I'm no North ass licker, but you on the other hand are a complete fucking idiot that needs to get a life outside of hating North. Fuck off.

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JohnKirk wrote:
aparicio wrote:
JohnKirk wrote:
I'm just a fan...using my real name herre. You can probably look me up. I live in Batavia, IL. I dont work or know anyone in the Radio biz. I am a Sales Manager for a German company who make connectors & factory automation controls components. Wife, 3 kids, 22, 18 & 17.

I'm just a fan who loves sports and who admires people who have achieved the American dream & who take risks and chances and who aren't ready to call it a career and ride off into the sunset just yet...

Feel free to resume your conspiracy theories about me...I need to go paint the front porch...


German company, huh? You're not helping yourself on the conspiracy front:

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In my industry, German companies are the technolgy leaders.


You sell Sham-Wow's?

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aparicio wrote:
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Look, when North did his dontfademe shit, I thought it was the stupidest fucking thing in the world. Webio WAS/IS a good idea. If someone really gets behind it (money wise) it WILL work.


Dude, you're over your skis here. Anyone with half a brain knew this was a terrible business plan. You can't make enough money on the internet with a LOCAL show. You need a national audience and hundreds of thousands of hits per day. Hernandez was crowing to the esteemed journalist Ed Sherman that they had 7,000 to 10,000 hits per day...that translates into less than $100 per day in internet terms. Sounds to me like he didn't even undertsand the metrics. Anyone that knows the internet knows that those paltry stats are an embarasmment and never would have referenced them. Oh, and he said they were profitable, and like you, Sherman never questioned it. Too many naive lemmings in the world. Thats why things are so screwed up right now.

The webio concept was doomed to failure from the moment it was conceived and will never be successful with this crew. Come on folks, think for yourselves, use your head. This ain't rocket science.


I knew for a fact that Hernandez was full of shit when he said the were turning a profit already. The thing was starting to grow, and they certainly could have brought in more advertisers the bigger it got. I got news for you, the future off all mass media is on the Internet. To say anything different put's you "over your skis here".

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Jack Bauer wrote:
So much blind hatred...

Look, when North did his dontfademe shit, I thought it was the stupidest fucking thing in the world. Webio WAS/IS a good idea. If someone really gets behind it (money wise) it WILL work.

What I don't understand is how can Hernandez fire North, Bebe, Spaceball? If nothing else, there should be a wrongfull termination lawsuit coming. I've got a feeling Hernandez is going to be in big, big trouble here.

Everyone is so quick to blame North on this one, but NO ONE knows the whole story. NO ONE. I'd guess Webio WILL be on the air Monday, at that will be a must listen. I hope every one of them lays into that motherfucker Hernandez.

Before anyone says it, no, I do not have any connection to anyone involved in this, so fuck off.


Another voice of reason...

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In my industry, German companies are the technolgy leaders.[/quote]

You sell Sham-Wow's?[/quote]

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Yeah. I don't know how hits translates to money on the internet. But when I heard Hernandez crowing about 7,000 hits I figured that couldn't make up for his expenses. I've hit the site and I don't listen so the 7k doesn't mean listeners. I'm sure people went there when they saw the billboard at the cell or the commercial on TV just out of curiousity.

Let's say they had 7k listeners. That's not a lot for a radio station. But they didn't have 7k. I would say they would be lucky if they had 1,000 listeners through their 9 hour broadcast day. That's nothing. Hell, even stations with good listenerships don't get the ad money they used to get.

Plus the biggest factor was the lineup was 6 guys that nobody knows and/or cares to hear what they have to say.


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Yeah. I don't know how hits translates to money on the internet. But when I heard Hernandez crowing about 7,000 hits I figured that couldn't make up for his expenses. I've hit the site and I don't listen so the 7k doesn't mean listeners. I'm sure people went there when they saw the billboard at the cell or the commercial on TV just out of curiousity.

Let's say they had 7k listeners. That's not a lot for a radio station. But they didn't have 7k. I would say they would be lucky if they had 1,000 listeners through their 9 hour broadcast day. That's nothing. Hell, even stations with good listenerships don't get the ad money they used to get.

Plus the biggest factor was the lineup was 6 guys that nobody knows and/or cares to hear what they have to say.


And the overhead associated with those folks was multiples more than the revenue they could ever generate. Trust me, this doesn't pencil out with local talent no matter how much acid you have dropped.

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aparicio wrote:
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Look, when North did his dontfademe shit, I thought it was the stupidest fucking thing in the world. Webio WAS/IS a good idea. If someone really gets behind it (money wise) it WILL work.


Dude, you're over your skis here. Anyone with half a brain knew this was a terrible business plan. You can't make enough money on the internet with a LOCAL show. You need a national audience and hundreds of thousands of hits per day. Hernandez was crowing to the esteemed journalist Ed Sherman that they had 7,000 to 10,000 hits per day...that translates into less than $100 per day in internet terms. Sounds to me like he didn't even undertsand the metrics. Anyone that knows the internet knows that those paltry stats are an embarasmment and never would have referenced them. Oh, and he said they were profitable, and like you, Sherman never questioned it. Too many naive lemmings in the world. Thats why things are so screwed up right now.

The webio concept was doomed to failure from the moment it was conceived and will never be successful with this crew. Come on folks, think for yourselves, use your head. This ain't rocket science.


I knew for a fact that Hernandez was full of shit when he said the were turning a profit already. The thing was starting to grow, and they certainly could have brought in more advertisers the bigger it got. I got news for you, the future off all mass media is on the Internet. To say anything different put's you "over your skis here".


Well genius, the internet is the most deflationary thing to occur in mass media. If you're too stupid to understand that, then you are dumb as you appear to be.


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[quote="Score is doomed
Dude, you're over your skis here. Anyone with half a brain knew this was a terrible business plan. You can't make enough money on the internet with a LOCAL show. You need a national audience and hundreds of thousands of hits per day. Hernandez was crowing to the esteemed journalist Ed Sherman that they had 7,000 to 10,000 hits per day...that translates into less than $100 per day in internet terms. Sounds to me like he didn't even undertsand the metrics. Anyone that knows the internet knows that those paltry stats are an embarasmment and never would have referenced them. Oh, and he said they were profitable, and like you, Sherman never questioned it. Too many naive lemmings in the world. Thats why things are so screwed up right now.

The webio concept was doomed to failure from the moment it was conceived and will never be successful with this crew. Come on folks, think for yourselves, use your head. This ain't rocket science.[/quote]

I knew for a fact that Hernandez was full of shit when he said the were turning a profit already. The thing was starting to grow, and they certainly could have brought in more advertisers the bigger it got. I got news for you, the future off all mass media is on the Internet. To say anything different put's you "over your skis here".[/quote]

Well genius, the internet is the most deflationary thing to occur in mass media. If you're too stupid to understand that, then you are dumb as you appear to be.[/quote]

You're a moron, go fuck a poodle. The Internet is hurting mass media right now, but staions/papers will adapt. It will happen, and if you don't believe it, you truly are retarded.

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You have the brains of a hockey puck.

I certainly love your vast vocabulary, do you work for CSW or just a teenaged burger flipper? Either way, the pay is about the same.


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It's not blind. I've had my eyes wide open to all the lies, stupidity, and bad radio this guy has put out for years, all the while acting like he's god's gift to Western Civilization. (Not Eastern Civilization, because those are all just a bunch of Chinamen.)


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You guys are quick to call me Hernandez...but it is Hernandez who I am calling out here. Why wont you address the points that I made in my post? You guys who constantly scream "Mike North sucks!" must not be able to communicate your thoughts. Do you not agree that this is on Hernandez? This guy is a dumbass. Who would just hand over his checkbook to North? Then when some checks bounce & North askes him about it, he fires North! What???
You guys can take sides with whomever you want. If you want to support Hernandez thats fine, but I would bet that North wins this battle, not Hernandez.

So you believe the one side of the story to come out so far, North's? Who's being foolish now?

I think more will come out and put north under a very bad light. Maybe Hernanadez found out that north, bebe and Swartz were skimming? Let me get this straight, some checks bounced but not the ones to north's crew? Very fishy if you ask me.


Don't even engage this scumbag. He knows we blame Hernandez and North. He's a shill for the CSW and only showed up here and pumped relentlessly about the CSW recently...who knows who he is? ...oh, and who cares?

You are posting with the name aparicio :? and you want to call him out for not knowing who he is? Thursday afternoon on B&B is waiting for you :shock:


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Now that Ed Sherman's been going after David Hernandez, how long before Warner Saunders berates Sherman for his treatment of minorities?


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Let's say they had 7k listeners. That's not a lot for a radio station. But they didn't have 7k. I would say they would be lucky if they had 1,000 listeners through their 9 hour broadcast day. That's nothing. Hell, even stations with good listenerships don't get the ad money they used to get.


Dan Patrick said his website get's 40,000 hits a day...and he's national and on terrestrial radio.

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But Dan Patrick's a different case. Even though I think he's terrible, he does have his following. He's nationally known from ESPN, and his radio show audience was built from his television audience.

Who the fuck remembers Coppock from his terrible suits on WMAQ? What did he do after - some crap on LUP and MVP. He's nothing on the national scene, despite what he wrote Feder about the money he earned in Vegas. Mancini's the only real national presence they have ( :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ), and the only thing he's really known for are two punches that killed Duk Duk Goose.

Most of these guys had little-to-no local following, and absolutely nothing on the national stage. Even so, I like Webber, Hood and Fred, and hate to see this happen to them.


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I'd guess Webio WILL be on the air Monday, at that will be a must listen. I hope every one of them lays into that motherfucker Hernandez.


First of all, if anyone who got one of the bad checks shows up to work Monday without a full explanation and restitution, I would ask why? But anyway, why bother listening? Any explanation North may offer is probably untrue and subject to retraction hours later--like when he put his well-publicized "truth about Teddy Greenstein" on northtonorth, only to have to abruptly take it down when it became obvious to anyone with a brain larger than a walnut that it was all a crock of shit.


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i was actually surprised it was only 40k....figured it would be higher.

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You have the brains of a hockey puck.

I certainly love your vast vocabulary, do you work for CSW or just a teenaged burger flipper? Either way, the pay is about the same.

Oh, because I swear, I must be a teenage burger flipper :roll: :lol:

Again, learn how to read poopy head :cheese: (is that better), I already said I have NO connection to any of this mess.

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Now that Ed Sherman's been going after David Hernandez, how long before Warner Saunders berates Sherman for his treatment of minorities?

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