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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:15 pm 
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Seriously, the question I have now is how did North and Hernandez initially hook up? Anyone remember? Did Hernandez show up out of the blue and want to sponsor Monsters? Did he and Mike have any sort of past associations?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:18 pm 
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I wonder if north was one of his investors? :)


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:19 pm 
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But we don't really know what Ike is.


Yeah but he's ignorant to call Chris in St Charles a black a-hole...I've hung with the dude and he aint black...

Ok, I'm done talking about Ike South...back to the real DB - Mr. Hernandez.



black asshole means you don't wipe your ass, dumbass. it has nothing to do with skin color, unless your skin is black because you shit all over yourself. watch southpark sometime, its educational.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:19 pm 
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spmack wrote:
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But we don't really know what Ike is.


Yeah but he's ignorant to call Chris in St Charles a black a-hole...I've hung with the dude and he aint black...
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Hold it Camps...a guy gets called a black asshole...and you take exception to the black part?
What kind of racist bull shit is that?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:21 pm 
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hopefully this will give the station back to its rightful owner though. north can run the webio as it should be, honestly i wouldnt mind if he left comcast to focus on the webio... but either way im GLAD the SEC and FEDS are taking care of business. sounds like this hernandez guy is a real piece of shit.


According to DH, Mike North hasn't invested a penny in the venture. DH is the rightful owner of Webio.

I do agree that he's a piece of shit!


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:24 pm 
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hopefully this will give the station back to its rightful owner though. north can run the webio as it should be, honestly i wouldnt mind if he left comcast to focus on the webio... but either way im GLAD the SEC and FEDS are taking care of business. sounds like this hernandez guy is a real piece of shit.


According to DH, Mike North hasn't invested a penny in the venture. DH is the rightful owner of Webio.

I do agree that he's a piece of shit!


yeah putting his bread and butter comcast show on the line, along with paying employees with personal checks, and his time invested into making webio happen means and values nothing.

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Hold it Camps...a guy gets called a black asshole...and you take exception to the black part?
What kind of racist bull shit is that?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:29 pm 
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Saying "black asshole" is not racist provided you say "white asshole," "Asian asshole," "David Hernandez-caliber asshole," etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:32 pm 
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I think it would've been more racist if he'd said "African-American asshole", cause that would just be too specific.

I gotta go to the kitchen here at work and make me a sandwich with some toasted caucasian bread.

See what I did there?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:34 pm 
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This information really sheds some light on the "work" being performed by the writers in this city. Less than a week ago there was a question about the financial sustainability of webio. The one and only source used by reporters to comment on the situation was Hernandez. No one thought that it would be worthwhile to check Hernandez' past in order to determine the credibility of the source. NOT ONE. That would be like reporting on a criminal case, asking the defendant if he is guilty and then tailoring a report based on that information.

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This information really sheds some light on the "work" being performed by the writers in this city. Less than a week ago there was a question about the financial sustainability of webio. The one and only source used by reporters to comment on the situation was Hernandez. No one thought that it would be worthwhile to check Hernandez' past in order to determine the credibility of the source. NOT ONE. That would be like reporting on a criminal case, asking the defendant if he is guilty and then tailoring a report based on that information.

So your saying reporters shouldnt rely on "the honor system"?


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out of curiosity how do you dig up info on a guy named david hernandez?

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IkeSouth wrote:
spmack wrote:
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But we don't really know what Ike is.


Yeah but he's ignorant to call Chris in St Charles a black a-hole...I've hung with the dude and he aint black...

Ok, I'm done talking about Ike South...back to the real DB - Mr. Hernandez.



black asshole means you don't wipe your ass, dumbass. it has nothing to do with skin color, unless your skin is black because you shit all over yourself. watch southpark sometime, its educational.


If that's the case then I apologize.

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dont apologize, this is a free-for-all fourm. that's why i keep coming back. even if i did say something racist, i wouldnt get banned and i would just take the shit from everyone. thats why this place is so cool, because its a place online where you CAN say whatever you want.

but if you really are sorry then im sorry for calling you a dumbass :D

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:44 pm 
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IkeSouth wrote:
dont apologize, this is a free-for-all fourm. that's why i keep coming back. even if i did say something racist, i wouldnt get banned and i would just take the shit from everyone. thats why this place is so cool, because its a place online where you CAN say whatever you want. :D

Ike, I'm seriously considering you for possibly being my favorite poster.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:47 pm 
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Oh, to be able to go back now and listen to the conversations Hernandez and North had about starting this thing up. What was said? Who promised what to whom? What did Mike know and when did he know it, as they used to say about Nixon in Watergate.

Speaking of Watergate, maybe it will be revealed that Mike had a secret taping system in Pappyland and there ARE tapes of this. Of course, when you get to the part that would incriminate Mike, Jen will have "accidentally" erased 18 1/2 minutes of it.


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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
IkeSouth wrote:
dont apologize, this is a free-for-all fourm. that's why i keep coming back. even if i did say something racist, i wouldnt get banned and i would just take the shit from everyone. thats why this place is so cool, because its a place online where you CAN say whatever you want. :D

Ike, I'm seriously considering you for possibly being my favorite poster.


its all in good fun. when i first posted here years ago or whatever, i thought you guys were assholes and i couldnt believe the things said about north. i was reamed like richard simmons on a horse farm for trying to praise mike. what made me stay was those same people that laughed at me also took note when i finally did say something they liked. being here is like being in a close poker game group. we all yell and make fun of eachother, but at the end of the day -no matter what is said- we all just keep on playing. its great.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:51 pm 
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good dolphin wrote:
This information really sheds some light on the "work" being performed by the writers in this city. Less than a week ago there was a question about the financial sustainability of webio. The one and only source used by reporters to comment on the situation was Hernandez. No one thought that it would be worthwhile to check Hernandez' past in order to determine the credibility of the source. NOT ONE. That would be like reporting on a criminal case, asking the defendant if he is guilty and then tailoring a report based on that information.


This is a plague in "journalism" nowadays. The Daily Show did a great mashup ripping on CNBC when he had that feud with them a few months ago. They showed these tv experts interviewing guys who had just been arrested for Ponzi schemes, backing stocks right before the companies folded, etc. They propped up the companies by just acting as a mouthpiece for them instead of doing actual journalism. And people worry that the internet is going to kill journalism once the newspapers dry up. This is what they give us now and it's unacceptable. At least on the internet there are people who will do some digging (sometimes too much of course and getting too intrusive) but will usually get to the bottom of things. Journalists have been getting away with this for years but who's going to call them out on it? They're a self policing community in that respect so why change?


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you don't think its cut and dry though?

to me, it appears as this-

mike and mexican setup the webio.

the federal government gets clued into the mexican's dirty hands (who tipped them off id like to know) and freeze his accounts.

mike asks why the employees arent getting paid, and with no response, mike's "streets" come out in him and basically threatens the mexican.

mexican fires mike, and his wife, and shit hits the fan. feds admit the mexican is in deep shit. webio future in limbo.

mike has to be madder then he has ever been in his life. i would be, its going to be fun to see what mike actually says about the mexican when all said and done.

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Hey Ike, what's your nationality? And don't say American.

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if you are shitting black, then you really should stop drinking oil and go see a doctor.

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So no Hug a Mexican day in the works?

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SEC charges founder of Chicago Sports Webio in fraud

By Ameet Sachdev | Tribune reporter

11:02 AM CDT, June 15, 2009

The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission on Monday accused David Hernandez of running a fraudulent investment scheme. Hernandez started an Internet-based sports talk show with Chicago radio personality Mike North.

In the civil lawsuit, the SEC charged Hernandez of operating a Ponzi scheme and diverting investor funds to buy cars, jewelry and a piano among other things. He also transferred funds to the bank accounts of two other companies he controlled, including Spectrum Entertainment Group Inc., which funded the talk show, Chicago Sports Webio, the SEC said.

The complaint also said that Hernandez is a convicted felon and that he and his wife, Gina Hernandez, have filed for bankruptcy in 2004, 2005 and 2006. In 1998, Hernandez was convicted of wire fraud arising from previous employment at a bank.

Hernandez could not be immediately reached for comment.


Yeah, yeah, I get all that ... what I wanna know is, how does this affect Illinois recruiting?

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Please, pappy knew who was dealing with, DH was just the only guy who would dive in, pappy was in desperation mode, he mad a deal with the devil, the devil got busted and now pappy is in a tight spot in the sense that he loses whatever small amount of credtibilty he had.


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he loses whatever small amount of credtibilty he had.


OK, well, on the plus side for everyone, nothing lost there.


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Please, pappy knew who was dealing with, ...


I say, let 'em crash.

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