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Whatever. Either way, this is big news of interest to "many".

"Many" is so nebulous it can mean anything: a wholly subjective term. This problem of Sherman's goes beyond Webio-related stories. Using once source, and creating a vague opposing POV based on little more than conventional wisdom, is not journalism. It's advertising. It's a published infomercial. I've written hundreds of press releases and Sherman uses the formulaic construction standard to the practice.

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u tinkrbelz r jus pissd cuz mr north tuld yall he wuld dump da scawre n start hiz pwne m-pire n dats egzaktly whut hez doin. LOSERS u all r hahahaha lulz

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Hernandez and North are lying if they say people are paying BIG money to advertise for 7000 listeners. Only a fool believes that, I guess I mean you johnkirk.


So are you telling me...and be honest now...that you wont listen to CSW when it begins broadcasting on AM820 at the end of June??? Really???[/quote]
Why would I want to listen to North or Coppock in drive time?


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Hernandez and North are lying if they say people are paying BIG money to advertise for 7000 listeners. Only a fool believes that, I guess I mean you johnkirk.


So are you telling me...and be honest now...that you wont listen to CSW when it begins broadcasting on AM820 at the end of June??? Really???

Why would I want to listen to North or Coppock in drive time?[/quote]

You will listen...you know you will...

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Now at least we see how Hernandez and North get along, they are both full of shit. Except Hernandez pays for it with the checkbook. Rohrman Autogroup, White Sox and who payd the bills with 7,000 to 10,000 hits! Not listenerss, but hits!
And wow, 100,000 unique visitors in 2 months after spending $200,000? $300,000 on ads?
Dave O, you dont have a terrible plan, you just have a terribleguy executing it for you.

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These numbers dont add up.

Who is he kidding that the average time spend on the site is 28 minutes?
28 min/avg would put this site so far up on the alexa ratings, and dont give me shit that alexa does know whats up, it does.
On further review, CSW is averaging 2.8 minutes a visit.

But if webio is the next big thing, really, how come is he going back to radio? Radio will be a dead format sooner than expected, internet is already availible in cars thru blutooth, so this truly is a step backward in progress.
Its more a "going back to what you know" thing, Id guess. North is too fucking stupid to have a format(internet), that is the future of everything, and still fucks it up, when, and this pains me to say it, he was ahead of his time.Now, whatever numbers he was getting, about 500 clicks a day, he will lose, and I will watch his webio site go dormant while mine, Brawl-Hall.com, increases its viewers on account of myself, a proven internet draw.

Newspapers, radio, both will be non-factors within five years, going backwards isnt a viable decision, nor is using a shit station in Crystal Lake that wont get reception in the huge market its trying to cover.

This is fail.....uber fail.
North seriously has a head like a wiffle ball, you hear the wind thru the gaps when he walks and everything seems to curve towards stupidity.

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Oh, hey Mike, you stupid fucking retard, rapidshare, one of the biggest sites on the net, averages 6 minutes per visit, if you really think you want ppl to belive you, next time, aim fucking lower, you stupid, strupid fool.


Is there really anybody more fucking stupid in this world than Mike North?

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Is there really anybody more fucking stupid in this world than Mike North?


ironic question coming from you

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I don't really see how this move hurts the webio unless they're paying for placement on these stations.

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IkeSouth wrote:
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Is there really anybody more fucking stupid in this world than Mike North?


ironic question coming from you


Yeah well, at least I know how to use the biggest infomation medium to my advantage instead of going backwards into the stone ages of radio.

I must have flipped you off when you handed me my order this morning, and next, three fucking sugars, you minimum wage making fucktard.

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I don't really see how this move hurts the webio unless they're paying for placement on these stations.


First off, they would have to.
Secomd, this will crush their site and whatever traffic he has, which is closer to 500 hits a day.There is no way that site has turned a profit with its exspenses unless he got deals on advertising which, in this economy isnt likely. And even if he got deals, the bottom line says hes spending more than hes making.

Bob Rorhman? Isnt he going bankrupt?

Iam calling bullshit on this, I run a site, know the expenses, get more traffic than CSW, and Iam nowhere near the kind of numbers this idiot is falsely claiming, WITH better advertising revenue.

Who does this twat think hes fooling?

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Lets be honest...if you run CSW, wold you turn down an opportunity to broadcast on AM radio? You guys bitch about internet radion and how no one listens, yet when a story breaks about CSW grabbing an AM frequency, you guys bitch about that.
Once CSW is broadcasting on an AM station, the expense of broadcasting on the internet becomes minimal. And once the AM ratings improve, they may scrap the webio idea.
In a Month or so this message board will need to add another sports radio station to the board index.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:08 pm 
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Is there really anybody more fucking stupid in this world than Mike North?


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Let's be honest. CSW is a failure, if it wasn't it wouldn't be out looking to PAY to be on radio.

Kirk, you are failing in your job as the north/hernandez flunkie trying to convince people that CSW is viable.this north venture is no more successful than his lifelong dream of "dontbetme.com" or his Melman filng.

No listeners = no money coming in. they may as well call it the Over the Hill gang or Has-Been Heaven.


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Lets be honest...if you run CSW, wold you turn down an opportunity to broadcast on AM radio? You guys bitch about internet radion and how no one listens, yet when a story breaks about CSW grabbing an AM frequency, you guys bitch about that.
Once CSW is broadcasting on an AM station, the expense of broadcasting on the internet becomes minimal. And once the AM ratings improve, they may scrap the webio idea.
In a Month or so this message board will need to add another sports radio station to the board index.


But I thought Webio was the future?

North having to pay to be on the air, like the Hawks did under dollar Bill, is pretty much announcing to the world the guy is a fucking anal tumor with a burst center.
This is yet another venture this guy did that flopped, and better yet, when will ppl/advertisers understand this guy is fucking bad bidness and pull out? And now your trying to spin how they might drop the webio? LOL

His Score show sucked, MITM is a fucking joke, Webio is an epic fail that COULD have been ground breaking if he knew what he was doing....oh wait, instead of advertising, maybe he should have been showing ppl how to DL the shows on his commercials instead of stupid poker shit and a known Chi-whore whos been passed around like the swine flu, if this dunce seriously wanted to use his advertising to his advantage, yet, Nort blew that shit up.

So, he gets a AM channel, how long does THAT last until the moneys gone?Hes raped this guy for so long that one day the fool will wake up and see hes being ass fucked by Nort.

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Whether Murph goes to the webio will be a bellwether.

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Score is doomed wrote:
[b]"Mr. Hernandez said Webio already is generating a profit.


Mike North also said he had a bunch of offers when he got taken off the air last year.

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Score is doomed wrote:
Let's be honest. CSW is a failure, if it wasn't it wouldn't be out looking to PAY to be on radio.

Kirk, you are failing in your job as the north/hernandez flunkie trying to convince people that CSW is viable.this north venture is no more successful than his lifelong dream of "dontbetme.com" or his Melman filng.

No listeners = no money coming in. they may as well call it the Over the Hill gang or Has-Been Heaven.


The CSW plan from day one was to eventually broadcast on an AM radio station. How the hell do you think North was able to hire all the guys that he hired?

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Supercup wrote:
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Lets be honest...if you run CSW, wold you turn down an opportunity to broadcast on AM radio? You guys bitch about internet radion and how no one listens, yet when a story breaks about CSW grabbing an AM frequency, you guys bitch about that.
Once CSW is broadcasting on an AM station, the expense of broadcasting on the internet becomes minimal. And once the AM ratings improve, they may scrap the webio idea.
In a Month or so this message board will need to add another sports radio station to the board index.


But I thought Webio was the future?

North having to pay to be on the air, like the Hawks did under dollar Bill, is pretty much announcing to the world the guy is a fucking anal tumor with a burst center.
This is yet another venture this guy did that flopped, and better yet, when will ppl/advertisers understand this guy is fucking bad bidness and pull out? And now your trying to spin how they might drop the webio? LOL

His Score show sucked, MITM is a fucking joke, Webio is an epic fail that COULD have been ground breaking if he knew what he was doing....oh wait, instead of advertising, maybe he should have been showing ppl how to DL the shows on his commercials instead of stupid poker shit and a known Chi-whore whos been passed around like the swine flu, if this dunce seriously wanted to use his advertising to his advantage, yet, Nort blew that shit up.

So, he gets a AM channel, how long does THAT last until the moneys gone?Hes raped this guy for so long that one day the fool will wake up and see hes being ass fucked by Nort.


Did you forget how North got into Radion and how the Score was started??? How did that work out?!

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Lets be honest...if you run CSW, wold you turn down an opportunity to broadcast on AM radio? You guys bitch about internet radion and how no one listens, yet when a story breaks about CSW grabbing an AM frequency, you guys bitch about that.
Once CSW is broadcasting on an AM station, the expense of broadcasting on the internet becomes minimal. And once the AM ratings improve, they may scrap the webio idea.
In a Month or so this message board will need to add another sports radio station to the board index.


But I thought Webio was the future?

North having to pay to be on the air, like the Hawks did under dollar Bill, is pretty much announcing to the world the guy is a fucking anal tumor with a burst center.
This is yet another venture this guy did that flopped, and better yet, when will ppl/advertisers understand this guy is fucking bad bidness and pull out? And now your trying to spin how they might drop the webio? LOL

His Score show sucked, MITM is a fucking joke, Webio is an epic fail that COULD have been ground breaking if he knew what he was doing....oh wait, instead of advertising, maybe he should have been showing ppl how to DL the shows on his commercials instead of stupid poker shit and a known Chi-whore whos been passed around like the swine flu, if this dunce seriously wanted to use his advertising to his advantage, yet, Nort blew that shit up.

So, he gets a AM channel, how long does THAT last until the moneys gone?Hes raped this guy for so long that one day the fool will wake up and see hes being ass fucked by Nort.


Did you forget how North got into Radion and how the Score was started??? How did that work out?!


That was how many decades ago, lummox?
That was how many fucked up ventures ago, thimble brain?
The Score was at the right place at the right time when they pulled that off, and could get away with the sun up/down air time and weak signal. That generic shit wont go far in this day and age. Nobodys gonna try and tune in a weak signal when you dont have to work at getting the score in. And what about the webio? If it was Norts main goal to get back on radio, riding his sugar daddy bareback the whole time, letting him pay for the air time, he should have done it in the first place.

Nort going to radio is saying the webio is a failure, and no amount of lying will change that.

When this fails, what are the chances he kills himself on the air? Thats must listen radio :lol:

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I don't know anyone who listens to the webio feed or for that matter many people that know of the website. However, if they add a radio station they can increase exposure and maybe their website takes off. I think the webio broadcasting on the radio is a good idea if they want to succeed. Very few people have internet in their cars and this could generate more viewers for their webpage. 1000 and 670 stream over the internet but have the radio station as their main focus. My take is the webio will be focusing on the online stream but have a weaker AM signal. Seems like a good business decision to me.


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I have always viewed the webio as a production company looking to lease some or all of its product to a station in need of cheap programming. Dan Patrick left ESPN for a similar type of deal. I don't know why people find this so odd. I agree with Kirk, this was what was envisioned all along.

It would be great if webio programming replaced SNR on overnights at the SCORE.

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I have always viewed the webio as a production company looking to lease some or all of its product to a station in need of cheap programming. Dan Patrick left ESPN for a similar type of deal. I don't know why people find this so odd. I agree with Kirk, this was what was envisioned all along.

Exactly, but it's easier to just say "NORT SUCKS!" (which he does) instead of thinking.

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I find it priceless that the self-proclaimed best insult artist ever uses "lummox" and "thimble brain."

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Kirk, GD NO WAY was this Webio thing a production company looking for Radio outlets.

You guys just gave North way way too much credit.

Maybe he mentioned it and I am sure they thought about it, but no way was this THE PLAN, A, B or C.

Nobody dumps that kind of money into this venture to get on WJYD 1120 AM and if National syndication was really part of the plan, then Chicago Sports Webio might need to change its name?

This should have been a radio station deal to start and then broadcast on the net, with one or two name people and the rest all start ups and no names.

I know someone very well who had a business for 10 years in Chicago. It was a well known business, written up in the papers, everyone thought it was just great, he told everything was great. After all that, he closed the doors and lost $1 million. The ego took over and drove them into the ground. Over the years leasing to business after business, I can tell you if the business plan is good, if they are well capitalized and if they are making money and I have yet to see the one who opened the doors in a down economic environment and starting turning a profit in less than 6 months.

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Great points, BF. An important question—did Hernandez sink has own money into this, his company's, or outside investors? I give North a lot of credit if he didn't put a single dollar into this venture.

If Hernandez is smart, he got the capital from investors and incorporated the webio as an LLC, S corp, etc. That way the webio can shut down and not pay back its creditors. And Hernandez's personal assets are safe. North et. al. pocket whatever they've been paid to date. I hate to think that Hernandez sunk his healthcare company's money into this b/c employees who had nothing to do w/ the webio might lose their jobs as a result of a questionable investment.

BTW I think I'm drunk right now. I'm sure it shows in what I've written above.

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Kirk, GD NO WAY was this Webio thing a production company looking for Radio outlets.

You guys just gave North way way too much credit.

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I simply cannot believe that North did not envision MITM to be a TV/radio simulcast like Mike and Mike. North has always used them as his example for how to get bigger ratings.

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Kirk, GD NO WAY was this Webio thing a production company looking for Radio outlets.

You guys just gave North way way too much credit.

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I simply cannot believe that North did not envision MITM to be a TV/radio simulcast like Mike and Mike. North has always used them as his example for how to get bigger ratings.


When the webio was starting up, this is what North said:
"Last summer, Mr. North said he went to a meeting featuring prominent radio executive Dan Mason.
'During the one-hour presentation, he didn't mention radio once. He only talked about the Internet,' Mr. North said. 'If you're a fan of (traditional radio), you must like propeller planes. The Internet is a jet.' "

Apparently Mr. North has lost his taste for jets and is now cranking up the propellers. Or, he's just full of shit as usual.


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Adding radio to boost their chances of success is probably worth the risk, but I don't like the odds. They will likely end up at a daytime only station - putting them up against the strength of both station's lineups. This has Sporting News Radio written all over it.

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