I was offended by that movie because Woody Harrelson got to bang my girl Rosie Perez.

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"Cowabunga? Cowa fucking piece of dog shit! This game is diarrhea coming out of my dick!"

Sure, sometimes the truth does hurt. But since we're all speaking about opinions here, truth has nothing to do with this so I don't really see your point. Unless you meant that its true that this may be the stupidest thing you've ever posted. In which case I think we'd be in agreement.

Due to this infraction, you will be suspended from posting 2 years. Had you simply got drunk, beat your wife, got in your car and killed someone, I could have suspended you for only 1 day...but the interest of the board must come first.

I was more offended by the so-called "acting."

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Billy Ho!

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I think I am quick to dismiss things as race baiting, not because it's not offensive to me, but because the card gets played so damn often. It seems that no matter the case or the circumstances, someone (Sharpton, Jackson, et al) yells "racism." It waters down the actual (truthful) claims.

You cry "wolf" enough and eventually, people stop coming.

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so, there is not enough equal opportunity racial typecasting in movies for Nas, but there is enough for Killer V.

got it....


I think you are both right. But, I also believe that people will always come running when "wolf" is cried.
However, just like I cannot pretend to know how one will interpret a remark or a robots voice, no one can claim to know how I would process those same situations...

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Here's a thought: Aren't those who hear the voicing of these two characters as unintelligent and urban jumping to a racist conclusion when they assume that it's meant to be a chariacature [sp] of AFRICAN AMERICAN males?

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interesting. so, basically....everyone is a racist or everyone is not a racist.

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See, that's why I included the third choice. That's the one I clicked.

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Fighting some of those battles are more damaging than they are beneficial. You've drawn parallels between this and sexism/misogyny so I can only speak from those experiences. People who are overly sensitive to the small things have little support when the bigger issues arise. It's damaging to the realtionships that might otherwise be okay.

These were characters in a movie and possibly based on real life people. I doubt there was malice here. I don't remember anybody making a big deal about snot rod, dj, and boost in Cars.

Well said. The official name of Rhode Island is "Rhode Island and Providence Plantations." Rhode Island was founded in the 1600's, and the use of "plantations" was not intended to evoke images of slaves toiling for very little pay on Scarlett O'Hara's Tara.

Now, however, some troublemakers in Rhode Island are wasting everybody's time in attempting to enact legislation to change a so called "racist" name that nobody ever uses anyway.

Conclusion: More legitimate claims of racism diluted.

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Would have been funnier if they sounded like Obama & Bush.

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I don't buy the dilution argument. Do you ask a hospital to treat only major traumas? Do you ask the police to pursue only felonies and ignore misdemeanors? I believe Nas tends to be hyperbolic, but I can understand his frustration when the kneejerk reaction on the board is to dismiss claims of racism unless they cross a high threshold.

I'll be blunt. I don't have a lot of black friends and there are not a lot of black people where I live. I won't pretend otherwise. But my best client is African-American. From what I've seen of the clip—I'll admit I haven't watched the movie—if we went to see Transformers together, I'd probably want to hide under my seat during scenes involving these particular transformers.

It should be said that Nas is hardly alone in his opinion. A lot of (white) film critics likened these particular robots to Amos and Andy, or something similarly retrograde. I know many of you think Nas cries wolf. I can see why you think that. But I won't pretend to know what it's like to see this crude depicition of my ethnic group on screen in theater surrounded by laughing white people, and I submit that many of you similarly should abstain.

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I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. -Susan B. Anthony

My problem with this entire situation is simply this: at what point did humor need to be granted permission to show up in a movie? It will be a very sad, sad day when jokes are repeated over and over again because they are considered to be "safe".

Let's face it; every single joke can be offensive to someone. I personally think that some people make a stink about a potentially offensive joke just for the sake of getting into the news. Is there some sort of personal victory these people feel after the story hits the newstands? Way to go, you humorless race-baiter.

or kick the dog.

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I just watched the South Park episode where Chef wanted the city flag changed. The flag, for those you who haven't seen the episode, showed 6 white people lynching a black person.

The cowardly city counsel decided to let the elementary children have a debate and vote on whether the flag should be changed.

At the end, the very obvious position of changing the flag seemed like the winner.

Then the group of students who were assigned to defend the flag made their argument that people have been killing/lynching each other for ages, so for history's sake the flag should stay.

Chef has an epiphany: the children DID NOT see a BLACK man being lynched, but just a man.

The final compromise has rainbow colored people on the flag, but someone is still being lynched.

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Conversation I would like to hear:

65 Year old black man: “I grew up in Birmingham, Alabama, where I was unable to attend the same schools as white people, eat in the same restaurants as white people, drink from the same water fountains as white people, or stay in the same hotels as white people. A white person's dog had a better chance of getting a decent job than I did. In addition, if I and some of my friends attempted to peacefully voice our displeasure at these slights, a man named Bull Connor would turn the City’s fire hoses on us, let loose vicious German Shepherds specifically trained to maul black people, and/or crack us over the head with batons. Worst case scenario, I feared that I would be taken by packs of angry white people into the woods far from town where, if I was fortunate, a bullet would be deposited into my skull resulting in a quick death. If the pack was in an angry and/or playful mood, I could look forward to a long and agonizing death, all while hearing the incessant laughs and taunts of my tormentors. To make matters even worse, I was not considered a person. I was officially a non-entity, and it would be unlikely that the authorities would even be bothered to investigate my death. If, by some miraculous quirk of fate, they did, and arrests were actually made, my killers would probably be acquitted by an all white jury.

Tell me your troubles, son.”

Young Black Man: “The new Transformers movie bothers me, and some people don't love our black president.”

We really have to get the rampant racism in our country under control. We have really regressed.

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Mr. stoneroses86, you are one insensitive SOB, how dare you bring reality and perspective into the discussion?

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All I can say is don't sweat the small stuff. I shine my light pretty bright there are things I don't and won't accept but I'm not going to raise a stink about petty stuff. I think there should be more "bend". Digging heels in on both sides of this type of issue does no good.

All women are a little wild except for mothers and grandmothers...but even your fathers and grandfathers have stories...

I love you stoneroses even though you are a NY fan. It maybe your only flaw.

The definitive treatise on the state of race relations in America. Don't forget that Obama's election caused the white militia movement to shrink and surrender their weapons.

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I say, whenever in doubt, always go with it being racist! Always error on going against the side of the white man.

As long as people see a black man/woman as a black man/woman, rather than just as a person, there will never be a total sense of equity. I do not have a lot of Black friends that I see socially. I play softball and Basketball with some black guys, but we don't get together socially for parties or dinners/cookouts. But in my Grandfathers day, the two races wouldn't have been playing sports together. Progress in race relations has been slower than many black people would like, but the progress continues. As much as the story stoneroses tells about the 65 year old black man is one that brings to mind the progress that has been made, so do we continue to see changes . I guess it's easy to say "be patient", when you are of the race that's in the superior position.

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The sad reality of humans is this: even in the event of a nuclear holocaust, there will still be racists among those who survived. Humans do not have the ability to completely disregard differences and completely forget stereotypes... or the past, for that matter.

I think it's time we all listen to the words of a great white women.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcuJy3HzGLE

My problem with this dialectic is that there ARE differences between people. What's wrong with recognizing that, as long as those differences are not used as a way to discriminate? I don't think it's racist to recognize the differences between people of different races. The key is respecting each other.

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Even when skin color is the same, people still find a reason to hate each other. Look at Northern Ireland.

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Gotta hand it to you Johnny, that is a good point. Simple as that.

A friend of mine once joked the only way we'll get beyond this is if an alien race shows up to wipe us out. Only then, would we go, "Hey, you might be a fill-in-the-blank; and I still don't like your fill-in-the-blank ass, but at least you're human!"

Sadly, America did have the massive attack on our soil. And for a time, we did get along rather well. Then we fell back to age-old "I don't like your sorry ass" routine and we regress back a ways.

Acceptance and tolerance is like waves coming up on the beach. We get further each time, but we tend to regress back after we make strides forward.