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I'd love to see the faces of the Comcast execs when they read this!
They really have to feel stupid being taken by North and Hernandez :lol:


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Everything I've read about this leads me to the unavoidable conclusion that Fred Samp is a total loser in life who got exactly what he deserved.

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"We are going to lose our house," said Samp, a former sales manager.


But at least pappy can sleep at night. That is what is really important. :roll:

I sent bebe pappy a email saying I would match the $2300 so they could forward that money to Mr. Samp to help him out, if they would answer 5 questions that I can post the answers here, I want to see if mr. all about his guys will step up for them..i doubt it.


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Not only do I have a hard time finding sympathy for these "investors", but I feel it's damn close to criminal itself to be receiving checks from these schemes.

There is no legitimate investment that guarantees 15% per month. Period. There is no legitimate investment that guarantees 15% per year. Hell, even half that.

While there is a fraction of a chance these "investors" didn't know that, the more likely scenario is, they thought Hernandez had some kind of illegitimate inside information on something, or was running a scam and letting them in on it. Basically, they knew people like you and me were losing our shirts in this economy, yet they were going to be taking 15% per month from the same pot.

It's the same thing with the Madoff scam. I'd wager a good number of those investors knew there was a scam being perpetrated, but it was fine with them as long as they were profiting.

Then when the scheme is busted, the "investors" claim stupidity and characterize themselves as victims.

No. That, to me, is criminal.

I proposed in another thread an example of someone showing up at your doorstep with a box full of expensive jewelry, looking over his shoulder and offering it to you for a few hundred dollars. You agree and then sell the items on ebay for thousands and thousands. You think you aren't criminally liable if you get discovered selling the hot merchandise? Or can you just claim to be stupid, and therefore you get away with it?

If you receive, and spend, dirty money, you better damn well be able to prove that there was absolutely no way of you knowing it. Simple claims of stupidity and mentions of Google searches walk. Otherwise, anyone can get in on a scam and try to make a dirty profit.


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I sent bebe pappy a email saying I would match the $2300 so they could forward that money to Mr. Samp to help him out, if they would answer 5 questions that I can post the answers here, I want to see if mr. all about his guys will step up for them..i doubt it.


Your basic point is valid, but I add that poor Mr. Samp didn't mind walking away with your money at 15% per month if you too were invested with Hernandez.


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So how much money did North and Bebe take away in those 3 months? It was a hell of a lot more than $2300, I'll bet. Just about every cent of it was dirty. Is there any record of North trying to generate sales?

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So how much money did North and Bebe take away in those 3 months? It was a hell of a lot more than $2300, I'll bet. Just about every cent of it was dirty. Is there any record of North trying to generate sales?


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Remember all that have commented on how much they made? Two, three times what they made elsewhere!


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something tells me more than $2300 was made and it was probably stolen 'missing' since someone in this scam profitted.


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OK, I had written something else, but here's the point—the revenue number stinks to high heaven: $2,300. Revenue, not profit. That number isn't from Ed Fucking Sherman; it's from the SEC. One person selling shit Popsicles to cholera victims could generate more than that in 3 months. Which means that almost every dollar was skimmed, and the webio's accounting records are complete fiction. North knew. Bebe knew—she was the COO! If the Norths weren't aware of these irregularities, they are not just stupid: they are criminally negligent. Hernandez was not a prince in shining armor who magically appeared when this idea was cooked up. North went to Hernandez: a guy with whom he had financial dealings. North knew Hernandez's criminal past and he threw in his lot anyway. It is a career move that makes no sense unless you're driven by revenge, getting secretly paid, or both.

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"For three months, this was a great place to work," Jesse Rogers, who left CBS Radio's WSCR-AM 670 to be program director for Webio, told listeners. "We were making good money. We were spending money, which is what you have to do to make a good station."

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I guess Jesse lost any chance of ever running a station.

North and friends cannot even challenge this number. If they claim the webio made more and they claim they know it, then they are incriminating themselves.


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Not only do I have a hard time finding sympathy for these "investors", but I feel it's damn close to criminal itself to be receiving checks from these schemes.

There is no legitimate investment that guarantees 15% per month. Period. There is no legitimate investment that guarantees 15% per year. Hell, even half that.

While there is a fraction of a chance these "investors" didn't know that, the more likely scenario is, they thought Hernandez had some kind of illegitimate inside information on something, or was running a scam and letting them in on it. Basically, they knew people like you and me were losing our shirts in this economy, yet they were going to be taking 15% per month from the same pot.

It's the same thing with the Madoff scam. I'd wager a good number of those investors knew there was a scam being perpetrated, but it was fine with them as long as they were profiting.

Then when the scheme is busted, the "investors" claim stupidity and characterize themselves as victims.

No. That, to me, is criminal.

I proposed in another thread an example of someone showing up at your doorstep with a box full of expensive jewelry, looking over his shoulder and offering it to you for a few hundred dollars. You agree and then sell the items on ebay for thousands and thousands. You think you aren't criminally liable if you get discovered selling the hot merchandise? Or can you just claim to be stupid, and therefore you get away with it?

If you receive, and spend, dirty money, you better damn well be able to prove that there was absolutely no way of you knowing it. Simple claims of stupidity and mentions of Google searches walk. Otherwise, anyone can get in on a scam and try to make a dirty profit.


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I sent bebe pappy a email saying I would match the $2300 so they could forward that money to Mr. Samp to help him out, if they would answer 5 questions that I can post the answers here, I want to see if mr. all about his guys will step up for them..i doubt it.


Your basic point is valid, but I add that poor Mr. Samp didn't mind walking away with your money at 15% per month if you too were invested with Hernandez.


"GUARANTEED" Yes, that is a scam, but those LON SHARK Stores can do really well if in a great location. Like downtown, from the fed buildings, or by Chicago Public Schools, or Board of trade. I am not going to tell you 15% per month )180% annualized, 25% a year is not uncommon.

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Didn't Spaceball, My guy, say they did $250,000 and could have done $500,000

Maybe the 3 looked like a 5 and they forgot some zeros.

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I just can't stop LMFAO over this revelation!! $2300 in revenue for 3 months.
Nice job Spaceball, those sales results should really look good on the old resume. Nice job Mike & Bebe, you did show what kind of business people you are--ABYSMAL.
This whole webio thing was a scam in itself, they just got caught scamming a real con man.
What a great story for chicago radio. Jesse Rogers proves once again what a true moron he is, yep Jesse, I'm sure this is how you think a station should be run. :lol: :lol:

Everyone involved should just leave town to avoid further embarrassment. :lol:


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I just can't stop LMFAO over this revelation!! $2300 in revenue for 3 months.
Nice job Spaceball, those sales results should really look good on the old resume. Nice job Mike & Bebe, you did show what kind of business people you are--ABYSMAL.
This whole webio thing was a scam in itself, they just got caught scamming a real con man.
What a great story for chicago radio. Jesse Rogers proves once again what a true moron he is, yep Jesse, I'm sure this is how you think a station should be run. :lol: :lol:

Everyone involved should just leave town to avoid further embarrassment. :lol:



Feds might put some of them on a bus.

Can we even trust Jesse Rogers to give us the correct baseball scores anymore?

How about Chet Coppock telling us what a brilliant money man Mike North is?
Mike can sure raise that capital, right, Chet?

Chet, North has a G.E.D, not a M.B.A.

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Didn't Spaceball, My guy, say they did $250,000 and could have done $500,000

Maybe the 3 looked like a 5 and they forgot some zeros.


North left those zeros on the table at WSCR.

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You know the government is or will be talking to all of them. The money that was being paid to all of them will become public and the embarrassment will grow. They will have to answer the main question of how were you running a business with no revenue and spending all this money? You either knew something was wrong or you are just the dumbest human being alive. Which it, Mike & Bebe?


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$2,300 in revenue = more than Hernandez going to jail. If legit records were kept, it's virtually impossible to bring in that little money.

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Jalapenos and More wrote:
$2,300 in revenue = more than Hernandez going to jail. If legit records were kept, it's virtually impossible to bring in that little money.


Exactly.
Something is sounding kinda fishy about that number considering I know of sites making that kind of coin monthly.

Seriously, its funny he takes a vacation the second this comes out, doesnt even finish the week, leaves thrusday when this is reported on friday.Comcast sure let out a huge Homer Simpson "Douh" with this news.

He couldnt even buy a stocked dessert cart with that.
And funny how Sherman has a link to his blog on Nort's webpage on the bottom, isnt that a conflict of interest?

Seriously, when is the media going to quit protecting this guy and trying shamelessly to make him out as some sort of victim? He brought a con man into the chicago media landscape with only a google search to back him up, didnt anybody from CSN even ask him about this guy? Didnt Reinsdorf? Didnt anybody who accepted dirty money from this guy do some sort of due dilligence? I truly find this extremely hard to belive.

And Nort, if you think about it, was just going to scam this guy anyways, dont anybody kid themselves to anything else. He was going to suck this guys wallet dry like a hooker, then once the money stopped was gonna toss him to the side, its just that DH beat him to it, and Norts a victim, right? Theres no other excuse for somebody to jump into something so foolishly without researching what he was doing, other than getting his little webio going by any means, using up whatever funds this idiot had.

Seriously, the guys background is selling fucking hot dogs, would you give him that kind of money to start something that didnt involve nuclear relish and beef sandwiches, no.

This even makes the Score look bad, considering they gave this fool big money, and hes a fool.

This guys career is dead, not only here, but by that low figure leaking, pretty much everywhere.After lawyer fee's, this moron better find some hot dog cart.

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This guys career is dead, not only here, but by that low figure leaking, pretty much everywhere.After lawyer fee's, this moron better find some hot dog cart.


Doesn't make Spaceball look particularly good.

North? North's a talker with a following. Someone will give him a show. But a show where he's acting as the packager? No. That ship has left port.

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No offense intended but why does anyone really want to listen to MN now days anyhow? Did you guys read his ST article the other day? P.U.

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I guess only John Kirk can answer that :)


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This guys career is dead, not only here, but by that low figure leaking, pretty much everywhere.After lawyer fee's, this moron better find some hot dog cart.


Doesn't make Spaceball look particularly good.

North? North's a talker with a following. Someone will give him a show. But a show where he's acting as the packager? No. That ship has left port.


But, IMHO, Nort's followers left him that last couple of weeks he was on the Score, it was fasinating radio on account of it being a train wreck happening right before everyones ears. Whatever listeners he did have turfed the second the became too good for them and started talking about shit other than sports, but thats my opinion.

Back in the first Jiggs/Nort days, I thought the guy was funny, then he started telling the same joke every day and got old. His claim to fame was the McCaskey interview, and then it was all down hill.In my eyes, thats when his head got big, because he didnt get nothing but a slap on the wrist and everyone telling him how he was a voice of joe causual sport fan, which wasnt the case. CBS really had the idea of national for this guy? LOL. That would have lasted what, a day or two, after they would have found out the guy only appeals to the Johnkirks of the world, it would have been a huge disaster of Webio preportions.

This guy has the anti-midas touch on everything he puts his gardinera covered fingers on, and right now, it looks like more and more ppl with the exception of his media cronies is starting to get the shitty wiff of his stench the second he comes close to anything that involves money.

Fuck Pappy, a stupid leech who got what he deserved, theres plenty of guys out there busting their ass trying to make ends meet, and soon, Mike Nort, radio/internet messiah will be right there with them, slapping mustard on their vienna dogs.

Maybe some of the Webio guys who post here can let those of us here know if Nort has tried to get in contact with them since his total fuckage of their careers is on his hands, maybe offer them a couple bucks if they needed it, or hes too busy with h is public access show to return their calls. You had a few guys who actually seemed worried about their futures when it all went down. Lets find out if Nort is the stand up schmuk he says he is.Not jesse rogers tho, that fool can deepthroat a 12 guage for everything stupid he has said, and still says.


Oh yeah, to Larz, fuck you with your editing bullshit, your sites still in the stone ages on account of the rocks that tick tack inside that vagina that proudly squares itself on top of your shoulders.

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Chicago Sports Webio, created with such fanfare, generated only $2,300 in revenue, the SEC said.


Wow.


Also my favorite part of the article.

Remember, this is how Jesse Rogers and George Ofman claims a sports radio station should be run.

From THEIR standpoint (programming content, journalistic integrity and motivating the hosts) they're probably correct. From a P&L Statement, they couldn't be more wrong.

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