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John Kruk has a radio show?


Yeah John Kruk and John Kirk. One nut and Numbnuts in the morning.

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Of course there's a chance of a slippery slope. There was a chance of a slippery slop with Mao, which was two years ago. there was a chance with GoldenDomer last year. But the board has been very mature about not wanting to ban or out every inconvenience that appears. I think the general attitude in favor of anonymity is still very high. Neither one of those occurrences led to the anti-free speech wave that was feared. I don't think outting Juggs would lead to people saying "OK, who's next".

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+1....Juggs sucks no doubt but cmon now. Should we run every post past Degen to make sure it is safe and acceptable? If I wanted a sterile conversation I would turn on ESPN 1000.


It would be a volatile read if we did Phil.

The landscape would always be changing. One day nothing but seashells and balloons (boy) and the next day skull fucking, fire and brimstone, apocalypse - lol.

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Whoever is behind Juggs is a dumbass for not just laying low for a little while. If they had any common sense, they would have at least retired Juggs for the time being.

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Also: remember that not very long ago the board pretty much unanimously said not to ban Elmhurst Steve (which I agree with). That's evidence that this isn't going to be the first domino. It'll be the only domino.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Whoever is behind Juggs is a dumbass for not just laying low for a little while. If they had any common sense, they would have at least retired Juggs for the time being.


I didn't know there was any question as to the Juggs multer being a dumbass.

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Big Fan,

I know that you have been very reluctant to out any mults and I understand why. However, Juggs has gone from mildly entertaining to stalkerish to now downright inappropriate.

In the Steve Phillips thread, Juggs compares the humble looking woman that Steve Phillips had an affair with to Redneck Mommy. This is over the line.

I hope that I am not the only one that feels that this mult has gone far above and beyond any harmless ribbing to an area of stalkerish-ness and inappropriate-ness that shouldn't be tolerated. So I ask you please either ban this mult or let us all know who it is.

Thank you...



Thanks DD...Didn't read much last week into early part of this week.

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but one of the things that makes this place great is the fact that it is not moderated.


What are you talking about? Its says right at the top: Moderators: slumlord, tester


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good points by all.*

I think the difference between Juggs and "the brand" is that we knew of "the brand" before he started posting here.
there's a face and a voice and emails with the name.
Simply put, the "joke" wasn't funny with "the brand" and it is not really funny with this.

and I can bet that Juggs is sitting calmly enjoying every minute of this. to each his own.

* anyone who has ever created a mult to deride a regular poster, I really do not value your opinion in this discussion.
you helped create the monster.

ignore would work tho too...

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Thanks DD...Didn't read much last week into early part of this week.


Of course RNM - but it isn't just you - he has gotten others besides Kid now and enough is enough.

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My 2 cents: the person behind the mult is obviously a regular, and feels like Its entertaining to try and embarress other posters. The last thing that this poster would want is to be outed because that person would feel embarressed and he would probably lose alot of respect, so I say out the fucker and embarres him

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oh they'd lose respect all right...

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Thanks DD...Didn't read much last week into early part of this week.


Of course RNM - but it isn't just you - he has gotten others besides Kid now and enough is enough.



It is ovciously has to be someone that has met me or might have found one of the odd pictures posted a long time ago by hoffy. Now I admit that I am not that good looking by society's standards, but to come out and out to just ridicule me like that is so 4th grade. Glad that I didn't see it to ruin my vacation.
And if it is who I think it is then they really really really need some serious professional help.

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Well, I guess I am unable to conjure up a number of ideas to not "out" the owner that are as good or better than the reasons to do so, so I probably at least would abstain, if not in fact approve, of the measure. If that counts for more than a gnat's nuthair.

(if that sounds whiny, it's not meant to be ... problem with no inflection or visual cues available in the printed word, combined with differing impressions of me as a poster!)

BTW: DDave - your points made, as they were, were pretty sufficient the second time around, though of course polite applause for IB for his fine reinterpretation. Also, the man's name in his avatar is actually Gustav, but that's nit-picking. :lol:

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oh they'd lose respect all right...

I'm sure that BF is gonna give that person a warning before outing. If he hasn't already.

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Bagels wrote:
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but one of the things that makes this place great is the fact that it is not moderated.


What are you talking about? Its says right at the top: Moderators: slumlord, tester


There are moderators, but this site is not moderated very much at all, pretty much anything goes. I have been a part of boards that were moderated, some very heavy handed and it was no fun at all. Just saying be careful for wanting too much moderation around here.

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BTW: DDave - your points made, as they were, were pretty sufficient the second time around, though of course polite applause for IB for his fine reinterpretation. Also, the man's name in his avatar is actually Gustav, but that's nit-picking. :lol:


Gustav? Sounds like a communist. Maybe we should have Senator McCarthy take a look at this....

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but one of the things that makes this place great is the fact that it is not moderated.


What are you talking about? Its says right at the top: Moderators: slumlord, tester


There are moderators, but this site is not moderated very much at all, pretty much anything goes. I have been a part of boards that were moderated, some very heavy handed and it was no fun at all. Just saying be careful for wanting too much moderation around here.


that's been a concern every time the question has come up, and I think it's legitimate. But the fact that the board has been so delicate about the issue in the past suggests that this isn't going to start a wave of deletions.

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Do you think Juggs would just settle for an Erectile Dysfunction section in return for not posting any longer?

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I think if you just leave it alone and not feed the beast so to speak, that he will just go away. Obviously this person wants and craves the attention and is getting it. I am not for banning but if he wants to out him and that makes everyone in this thread happy, than have at it.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Do you think Juggs would just settle for an Erectile Dysfunction section in return for not posting any longer?


Hey there was already a section for the WNBA

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I wonder if BIG Fan can create a PENALTY BOX. People that are out of line are allowed to post under that Subject (Penalty Box) only ,for a certain amount of time. That would be funny. Somebody gets out of line,SLAM,1 day in the Penalty Box!

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Either way a precedent is being set here.

1) A person that comes here to only make personal and intentionally hurtful attacks is allowed to continue this without any repercussions.
2) A person that comes here to only make personal and intentionally hurtful attacks is subject either to being outed for using an alternative id to do this or is banned.

I just don't see how #1 can be considered the better option. I say bigfan either says if they have any other accounts on here or bans Juggs.

For whoever is Juggs, please consider that the things you are saying could be very hurtful to someone and ask yourself if you really need to do that.

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Do you think Juggs would just settle for an Erectile Dysfunction section in return for not posting any longer?


Never thought I'd have occasion to do this to Ken:

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I think if you just leave it alone and not feed the beast so to speak, that he will just go away. Obviously this person wants and craves the attention and is getting it. I am not for banning but if he wants to out him and that makes everyone in this thread happy, than have at it.


Why should the needs of the many (the rest of the board) be changed for the needs of the one (juggs) in order to bring this to an end?

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Who is vulgar, childish, and has had run ins with rnm?


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DegenerateDave wrote:
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I think if you just leave it alone and not feed the beast so to speak, that he will just go away. Obviously this person wants and craves the attention and is getting it. I am not for banning but if he wants to out him and that makes everyone in this thread happy, than have at it.


Why should the needs of the many (the rest of the board) be changed for the needs of the one (juggs) in order to bring this to an end?


Needs? come on Dave thats a stretch.I don't have any issues with you Dave, but I feel like you're being the board spokesman and i find that hilarious. I think RNM is a grown woman and can defend herself. I think whoever is being or feeling harrassed by Juggs also can take that up with BigFan themselves.

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Who is vulgar, childish, and has had run ins with rnm?


Puckhead?

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Do you think Juggs would just settle for an Erectile Dysfunction section in return for not posting any longer?


Never thought I'd have occasion to do this to Ken:

:thumbdown:


I guess I went too far back in the Way-Back Machine for that reference.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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Do you think Juggs would just settle for an Erectile Dysfunction section in return for not posting any longer?


Never thought I'd have occasion to do this to Ken:

:thumbdown:


I guess I went too far back in the Way-Back Machine for that reference.

And, no, I'm not Mr. Peabody.


How about Sherman?

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