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 Post subject: Re: Woe is me Cutler
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:51 pm 
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Sure Cutler has made some bad passes/plays. What QB hasn't this year? Every one of them except Peyton Manning has a loss. (Drew Brees, TBD.) There is room for improvement, no question. Given the lack of running game, and the horrendous Oline play, I can't expect much better from Cutler. I'm relatively happy with the fact that he hasn't been knocked out of a game yet.

The Bears have no running game, some of the worst playcalling in the league, one of the worst Olines in the league, some of the most inexperienced WRs in the league, and a former #1 pick of a tight end who drops 1 out of every 2 or 3 passes and can't block for shit. Given all that, and the Bears still have a winning record.
"Aaron Rodgers is doing better! lolz" who gives a shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Woe is me Cutler
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It's awesome that we finally got a pro bowl franchise QB and we can enjoy the fact that he isn't injured yet!

For a bunch of people who were so giddy over this franchise changing player you have pretty low expectations.

Maybe my definition of franchise QB is different than yours though.

At least we have draft picks to improve the team!

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 Post subject: Re: Woe is me Cutler
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:14 pm 
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Sure Cutler has made some bad passes/plays. What QB hasn't this year? Every one of them except Peyton Manning has a loss. (Drew Brees, TBD.) There is room for improvement, no question. Given the lack of running game, and the horrendous Oline play, I can't expect much better from Cutler. I'm relatively happy with the fact that he hasn't been knocked out of a game yet.

The Bears have no running game, some of the worst playcalling in the league, one of the worst Olines in the league, some of the most inexperienced WRs in the league, and a former #1 pick of a tight end who drops 1 out of every 2 or 3 passes and can't block for shit. Given all that, and the Bears still have a winning record.
"Aaron Rodgers is doing better! lolz" who gives a shit.

if i can put on my nas shoes for a second, i'm not suprised you dont get my point still. If i wanted this to be a rodgers vs cutler debate i would have labeled it as such and put it in the nfl section, i've never been six to make my point bluntly here, and the evidence is so one sided that's not even a debate worth having. My point is cutler hasn't met expectations at all even given the detriments of his line.

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 Post subject: Re: Woe is me Cutler
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It's awesome that we finally got a pro bowl franchise QB and we can enjoy the fact that he isn't injured yet!

For a bunch of people who were so giddy over this franchise changing player you have pretty low expectations.

Maybe my definition of franchise QB is different than yours though.

At least we have draft picks to improve the team!

this. My bad nas, if you want you can get the last word or hype up some rookie as the best ever and we'll be even

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 Post subject: Re: Woe is me Cutler
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FavreFan wrote:
yeah he does. Brady has better weapons then both. By your implied logic weapons equals qb skills/talent/stats


i didn't mention brady. i'm talking about cutler versus rodgers.

cutler has had to throw off his back foot a lot; he has made some incredible throws doing it. he doesn't have guys he can have full confidence in to catch the ball.

jennings and driver are solid WR's, and proven. rodgers is a good young QB. the packers have other problems, and so do the bears. but one problem the bears have that the packers don't is talent at the WR position.


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 Post subject: Re: Woe is me Cutler
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:58 pm 
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My point is cutler hasn't met expectations at all even given the detriments of his line.

My expectations are to win a Super Bowl. Last I checked, we were 8 weeks into this season and very rarely can you get to a Super Bowl with only 8 weeks.

Lets revisit this thread 5 years from now and see what the Cutler vs. Rogers debate looks like.

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 Post subject: Re: Woe is me Cutler
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
My point is cutler hasn't met expectations at all even given the detriments of his line.

My expectations are to win a Super Bowl. Last I checked, we were 8 weeks into this season and very rarely can you get to a Super Bowl with only 8 weeks.

Lets revisit this thread 5 years from now and see what the Cutler vs. Rogers debate looks like.


That's wishful thinking! Good luck finding it with the search function :bom:

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 Post subject: Re: Woe is me Cutler
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:00 pm 
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Rodgers has better talent. The WRs are awesome on GB. That DOES make a hubge difference. See: McNabbs career. But with that decided advantage included, Rodgers is still playing better. Cutler isnt terrible. Hes playing ok. I expected more. I expect NOT to lose like the Cincinatti game or struggle against the fuckn browns. Im still very happy the Bears have Cutler and think hell improve. But so far...barely decent.


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 Post subject: Re: Woe is me Cutler
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For the record: I mostly agree with Favrefan.

Also for the record: some of those GB line problems are because Aaron Rodgers is holding onto the ball for too damn long.

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