Start off with whether you are keeping Lovie or not. And if so, for how long? My impression of him is that he's not that active on the offensive side (being a former DC, that might make sense; being a current HC, that's a weakness.) Which means, whoever is OC has more autonomy than a DC under Lovie.

If you keep Lovie til the end of the contract, then you might be setting up the OC to be the HC-in-waiting; get someone with OC experience who might like to "slide on in". If you're keeping Lovie with intent to extend his contract, then someone like a coach (QB, receiver, etc.) might be the better fit. If you ARE keeping Lovie longer term, then you'll have to do something to get a real DC brought in, too. Say what you want, you got half a HC right now. Then there's Babich being an overpaid coach to resolve as well as what to do with Marinelli.

In my world, there's simply too much that's messed up with the current collection of coordinators and I'm suspicious of the position coaches. I look at the aging D and realize they can't all be replaced by next year. So find someone who can scheme according to the abilities of the team. Cover-2 not working optimally anymore? Move away from, for awhile. Lovie doesn't seem that flexible.

I look around again and see Rod Marinelli, seemingly a HC in waiting, and ask myself... and quickly answer "no!" Furthermore, Dick Jauron wasn't better the 2nd time around, nor was Wannie.

So, you keeping Lovie next year?

(Sorry, I don't bring answers. I try to clarify/focus the question instead. Meh)

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I tried to answer that above towards the end of the first page. The coaching stuff is at the end.

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To the same extent as Marty Morhninweg(sp?)....and how did that turn out?

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So are you actually arguing that Brandon Marshall is good this year because he had Jay Cutler last year? He's set a career high in touchdowns and will probably set a career high in receptions this weekend. His yards per attempt are down slightly but last year's Broncos had a lot more yardage because they were a more unbalanced team.

We've seen Marshall without Cutler. We've seen Cutler without Marshall. Who is the one who seemed to miss the other player?
Ok. How did Marshall do this year without Cutler?

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Yeah but it broke into an argument about individuals. Once you dope out the situation that the OC will be coming into, the field of candidates will reduce to a manageable number. Then, arguing individuals' qualities makes sense.

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Yes. Win/loss record is an important statistic for a QB. It's not the only one obviously. There is no magic statistic that can be used to rank QB's but I'd put it pretty high on the list given how important the position is. I believe that my initial quote actually said "one of the ways" but I may be wrong.

So Frank, you actually want to answer the question with a Yes or a No since you brought it up again?

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Let's add Leach's name to the discussion for some fun.

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And men have lost their reason.

Brian Urlacher won't appreciate him talking bad about all his fat little girlfriends.

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I would literally be giddy if he was the Bears OC.

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He has Oakland Raiders written all over him.

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He and Gary Crowton have almost nothing in common except that they ran offenses in college.

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Huh?

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In other words, he gets the absolute most out of less talented players. That's a good thing, no? I suppose underperforming with blue chips in college is better.

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The 2 best Offensive minds in College Football are Ralph Friedgen at Maryland, & Mike Leach at Texas Tech. I guess I like overweight coaches. Leach has had a winning record & made a bowl game each of his 10 years as head coach at TTU. Not bad for a guy who never even played college football!
Leach attended Brigham Young U & is a devout Mormon.
While I prefer the Bears hire an experience head coach, Leach would be a great choice as head coach. Jay Cutler would be an absolute stud in Leaches spread system.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

I missed the part where the Cleveland Browns were running the Airraid. And does Jay Cutler have the arm strength of Tim Couch? If Leach was at Oklahoma he'd have three national championships by now.

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Every major college football program has players who are studs in college but dont make it in the pros. Hell, just review the QB's from the state of Florida...Wuerfel, Toretta, Dorsey, Erickson...
Think before you post...

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

Now that is some logic there...

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

Every major college football program has players who are studs in college but dont make it in the pros. Hell, just review the QB's from the state of Florida...Wuerfel, Toretta, Dorsey, Erickson...
Think before you post...[/quote]

John Kirk rule. [/quote]

Do you realize that Mike Leach is regarded by his piers as an offensive genius? He is an innovator amongst imitators. Don't rip on the guy if you don't know anything about him or his system.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

I don't particularly care how much respect he gets from Brad Childress. He's smarter than any of them.

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John Kirk rule. [/quote]

Do you realize that Mike Leach is regarded by his piers as an offensive genius? He is an innovator amongst imitators. Don't rip on the guy if you don't know anything about him or his system.[/quote]

I just read the section in Chuck Klosterman's new book about offensive geniuses and yes, he is one of the ones that was mentioned and the way it is explained in the book seems to be transferable to the NFL, the problem would be similar to the one that Spurrier had with his offense in that it is potentially easier to stop when you are at a higher level of defensive players.

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The problem Spurrier had is that he is incredibly lazy. That wouldn't be a problem with Leach.

Jimmy Johnson worked pretty OK. Coaches have to come from somewhere. I want the smartest person in football on my sideline. Leach gets NFL players too.

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I agree with wanting the smartest person too (Leach) and not to talk against my point (not that I had a point I was making) but why not give Leach a shot, how is he different than some retread O coordinator or some qb coach who is being promoted?

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The more I think about this, the University of Illinois should seriously consider Leach as their next head football coach. That my friends would shake up the Big Ten.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

If you may get fired after a season you might as well go for broke.

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I can't believe that it is necessary to tell you this...but you do realize that nearly every coach in the NFL had college experience, right?

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

This was not edited my friends, just memorialized.

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That's right...and we're not talking about Division I either...no sir, we are talking about coaches from the big boys...

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Callers are calling Les tonight about either the Bears or Illinois hiring Mike Leach.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan