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What part of 10 years and one playoff win do you not get?


Why have you decided to use playoff wins as your barometer for success?
Why not use Super Bowl victories?

And why only consider Shanahans record for the last 10 years? Maybe because if you considered his last 11 years he has 4 playoff wins & a Super Bowl victory. I mean its easy to pick & choose your stats, but its not very fair.



Because his playoff wins came with 3 HOF players and a great OL. Since those HOFers left, so did his playoff victories. Why do you choose to ignore this? Oh yeah, because you are a meatball.

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Hey JohnKirk, would Lovie have won the superbowl with Denver when Elway, Davis, Sharpe, and a great OL was there?


We'll never know. But knowing what I know about Lovie Smith, i seriously doubt he could win with the 1985 Bears.

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Hey JohnKirk, would Lovie have won the superbowl with Denver when Elway, Davis, Sharpe, and a great OL was there?


We'll never know. But knowing what I know about Lovie Smith, i seriously doubt he could win with the 1985 Bears.


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My definition of successful is way different than yours. I have the bar set a bit higher.

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Says the man who has a boner for a coach that won ONE PLAYOFF GAME IN 10 YEARS.


RPB, there is a line of people in the NFL who know a hell of a lot more than either you or i who want to hire Shanahan and pay him $10 Million per year.


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That does not change the fact that he has one playoff win in 10 years. So stop playing like you like successful coaches. You are a meatball.


Your right...I dont like successful head coaches. I prefer unproven fucks like the Bears have hired the last 3 times. WTF does "Meatball" have to do with this? There must be a lot of Meatballs in the NFL because there are a bunch of NFL guys who want to hire Shany.
Would you really rather keep Lovie rather than hire Shany???[/quote]
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Calling people names again are we? I know you didnt learn that in the military...

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My definition of successful is way different than yours. I have the bar set a bit higher.

Says the man who has a boner for a coach that won ONE PLAYOFF GAME IN 10 YEARS.


RPB, there is a line of people in the NFL who know a hell of a lot more than either you or i who want to hire Shanahan and pay him $10 Million per year.

There were similiar lines for Eric Mangini. Youre terrible at debate. This isnt even fun. Godspeed Scorehead


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it's impossible you're this stupid kirk


Calling people names again are we? I know you didnt learn that in the military...

He did. Name calling and mocking are Al Qaida's top weaknesses.


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it's impossible you're this stupid kirk


Again you say that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

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What part of 10 years and one playoff win do you not get?


Why have you decided to use playoff wins as your barometer for success?
Why not use Super Bowl victories?

And why only consider Shanahans record for the last 10 years? Maybe because if you considered his last 11 years he has 4 playoff wins & a Super Bowl victory. I mean its easy to pick & choose your stats, but its not very fair.



Because his playoff wins came with 3 HOF players and a great OL. Since those HOFers left, so did his playoff victories. Why do you choose to ignore this? Oh yeah, because you are a meatball.


You might want to think this through a little bit more because using your way of thinking, chuck Noll, Tom Landry, Don Shula, Joe Gibbs, Bill Belechick, Bill Walsh, & Jimmy Johnson were all lousy coaches because they all had numerous HOF's on their teams. No coach can win a Super Bowl without great players.

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Back to the original question:if this was a just world Lovie would be gone but the McCastkeys being cheap asses he will not . What sucks is you know he threw Turner under the bus and Babitch somehow come out of this with a job.

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Calling people names again are we? I know you didnt learn that in the military...

:lol: yes cuz everyone in the army is sensitive and line hearted. I never get called mean names. Especially in basic training :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:11 pm 
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Why wont you answer my questions?

Don't you get mad at me when I ask you this in the Politics section? :-)

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Why wont you answer my questions?

Don't you get mad at me when I ask you this in the Politics section? :-)

(in full Meatball voice) I think da next coach of da bears should be a certain Coach Ditka


I read this & got goose bumps my friend...

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Back to the original question:if this was a just world Lovie would be gone but the McCastkeys being cheap asses he will not . What sucks is you know he threw Turner under the bus and Babitch somehow come out of this with a job.


I'm hoping that Angelo throws Lovie under the bus tomorrow.

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Has any coach that has won a superbowl gone somewhere else and done it again? I want somebody who can use what they have and strength somewhere. Either a solid HC with okay coordinators or solid coordinators with a first time head coach. I don't want a whole staff of complete retreads nor a whole staff of first time coaches.

Back to the thread Did Lovie save his job?...there are reports that Forte was injured all season - excuses which could save him - but there is a press conference scheduled at 11 tomorrow. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.


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For the record, Shanahan is not my preferred choice as the next Bears head coach. He is my 5th choice, so I would be disappointed if they hire him.


1. Bill Cowher
2. Jon Gruden
3. Jim Harbaugh
4. Mike Holmgren
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but there is a press conference scheduled at 11 tomorrow. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.


I thought they said Lovie would not be meeting the press tomorrow?

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Don't know if it is a season finale press conference or if somebody is being shown the door but there is a press conference scheduled. Let's hope Lovie is too busy cleaning out his office to be at it.

IB has said Harbaugh too. Why?


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For the record, Shanahan is not my preferred choice as the next Bears head coach. He is my 5th choice, so I would be disappointed if they hire him.


1. Bill Cowher
2. Jon Gruden
3. Jim Harbaugh
4. Mike Holmgren
5. Mike Shanahan

:lol: mike holmgren doesn't want to coach and just got hired for a new job. I'm sure you knew that though

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Has any coach that has won a superbowl gone somewhere else and done it again? I want somebody who can use what they have and strength somewhere. Either a solid HC with okay coordinators or solid coordinators with a first time head coach. I don't want a whole staff of complete retreads nor a whole staff of first time coaches.

Back to the thread Did Lovie save his job?...there are reports that Forte was injured all season - excuses which could save him - but there is a press conference scheduled at 11 tomorrow. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.


Many coaches have been to more than one Super Bowl but none have won a SB with 2 different teams...unless I missed it.

Heres a link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Su ... ad_coaches[url][/url]

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For the record, Shanahan is not my preferred choice as the next Bears head coach. He is my 5th choice, so I would be disappointed if they hire him.


1. Bill Cowher
2. Jon Gruden
3. Jim Harbaugh
4. Mike Holmgren
5. Mike Shanahan

:lol: mike holmgren doesn't want to coach and just got hired for a new job. I'm sure you knew that though


Yea...I don't follow the NFL FF. This was my list before Mike took the Cleveland job.

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Hey JohnKirk, would Lovie have won the superbowl with Denver when Elway, Davis, Sharpe, and a great OL was there?


We'll never know. But knowing what I know about Lovie Smith, i seriously doubt he could win with the 1985 Bears.


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Yeah, that's my job to badmouth the 85 Bears!!!!

Rivera might be a better D coordinator; but the returning to his roots as a Bear stuff is meatball.

Would you prefer Cowher or Rivera? I'd take Bill Cowher in a heartbeat in Chicago. It's not going to happen; because we'll have another season of Lovie. I'll be amazed if Smith gets fired this week.


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It's not so much the fact that Lovie saved his job, as it is the McCaskeys are too cheap to pay two coaching staffs, in consecutive years - one of which they may have no revenue.

TOTALLY disagree on Rivera too. This team has gone in the crapper since he left. Meanwhile, SD's defense has improved since he took over.

Never been an NFL Head Coach = candidate for the Bears Head Coaching job.

...worst case he's a minority candidate for teams to interview.

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Yeah, that's my job to badmouth the 85 Bears!!!!

Rivera might be a better D coordinator; but the returning to his roots as a Bear stuff is meatball.

Would you prefer Cowher or Rivera? I'd take Bill Cowher in a heartbeat in Chicago. It's not going to happen; because we'll have another season of Lovie. I'll be amazed if Smith gets fired this week.


Cowher is a much better candidate than Rivera, but at the same time, it's not a practical concept for the frugal McClaskeys.

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Don't know if it is a season finale press conference or if somebody is being shown the door but there is a press conference scheduled. Let's hope Lovie is too busy cleaning out his office to be at it.

IB has said Harbaugh too. Why?


I'm a huge fan of Harbaughs coaching style & philosophy. The guy is a natural born leader & yes, he has plenty of fire & passion. I watched 4 or 5 Stanford games this year & this guy can coach. He grew up around the game & has been a winner at every level. He is the hottest coach in D1 college football right now & he wont be at Stanford much longer.
When Stanford played USC this year, he ran the score up on Pete Carrol which gives Harbaugh additional bonus points in my book...& he went for 2 when leading big near the end of the game in an attempt to score 50 points.
Even more strange & entertaining though was when he called the old Michigan power running play 14 times in a row during the USC game. Bo would have been proud!
If you don't like excitable coaches who are all over the sideline high fiving & butt slapping then he's probably not the guy for you, but he is an incredibly intelligent guy & his success at SD State & Stanford is garnering him a lot of national attention.

Here are a couple of links to stories about Harbaugh & the buzz about him as a head coach.

http://www.annarbor.com/sports/former-m ... commodity/[url][/url]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/w ... index.html [url][/url]

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Since when does going 8-5 and losing your bowl game make one the hottest coach going? :roll:

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Since when does going 8-5 and losing your bowl game make one the hottest coach going? :roll:


Do you know anything about Harbaugh, or are you merely arguing because I like him? You dont know a fucking thing about Harbaugh.
Read the links I attached to a previous post to learn a little bit more about him & why he is sizzling hot right now as a head coach. This guy is gonna land an NFL job within the next year or 2 & failure isn't an option for him. The guy is a winner & master schemer & strategist.
All good coaches lose games. He lost a bowl game...BFD. Every good coach has. But Harbaugh has re-built to terrible college football programs.

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:lol: He is all those things, yet he can only win 8 games and lose his bowl game?

You are a hoot.

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:lol: He is all those things, yet he can only win 8 games and lose his bowl game?

You are a hoot.


Did you watch any Stanford game this year? Did you watch any SD State games when Harbaugh was their head coach? You have no fucking clue why you dont like him other than I do.

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