In small doses. Full time it would be hard to take. On the plus side it would piss off Coppock to no end.

LoHo was better with Boers than Dan. Maybe because in that pairing he's Bernstein Lite rather than Bernstein in Stereo.

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On a personal level (as personal a level as you can get listening to the shows) I do not like Terry Boers, and I like Harry very much. Harry is a great guy. He really is. Terry could give a rats ass for you or anything you care about.
But, Boers is a MUCH better broadcaster. He turned my dislike for him into something I want to listen to and am entertained by. Homer Harry, although a nice guy, sucks to listen to on the radio for pretty much any length of time. I

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Have you met Terry personally?

I haven't, but the people I know that have say the exact opposite. They say he is one of the nicest guys you could ever be around.

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Again, I'm talking about the show here. All i know is what I hear on the radio. I thought that the thing with Mac was really kinda shady on his part in that type of way (give a rats's as...). I was trying to be clear on that with my first sentence.
He's not nice to callers, kinda salty with co workers, curmudgeony in general and it may very much just be his on air persona, I don't know. But I find it fascinating FWIW.

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He can be nice if you rub him the right way (hey now! by cracky!). He can also be a bit moody and he's not the genreal public's friend by any means.

I never had a problem with him, but he also wasn't personable like Mac or Harry are. In other words, he won't go out of his way. Terry would much rather be at home than ever deal with people. Most people are morons to him, which is true for the most part.

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It is interesting I agree which is why I was curious if you had met him in person.

I think the on air Terry is way more shtick than it is the real Terry. I think he likes it that way and it has worked for the shows he has been on.

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I could give a shit if Harry is nice in person. I am 2,000 miles from the 11th male lead in a movie no one saw. On the radio he's like a power drill jammed in your ear. In other words, make me a bicycle, clown.

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And Jeff is right about Terry in person. Bernstein, on the other hand, is much much different in person than on air. Very personable. He's more "Meatball-ee" than he likes to admit on air.

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So the thread turning into a 2 page discussion on the competition helps my point, I think.

Funny because I thought if you subbed the second B in his description of Carmen you'd have the same results.

The Saloon is not bad, it's just not very good. I flip between the 2 shows now based on who is less annoying. They are about even.

Except Bernstein actually comes across as intelligent. I cant deny Hes arrogant like Carmen, but he makes it work IMO. The resentment of the cubs and their fans is exclusive to Carmen. Berns maybe a Sox fan but he seems pretty impartial in analysis. And Berns can be funny. Has Carmen ever made you laugh?....Anyways its all personal preference but the fact that the two most positive things said about the show are ITS NOT THAT BAD and HARRY BOUGHT ME SHOTS speaks volumes.

I'm mostly B&B but I give CJH a try sometimes. It's a generic show. It's mostly a coversation that any good sports fan could have. It's a safe show. They don't dig deep into anything. Nobody is gonna say anything that's interesting. They're not gonna do "shock radio" like Bernstein. I don't think they're allowed to cuz they are Disney. They wouldn't be good at it anyway. That's fine for a lot of people. B&B can frustrate you. Some people don't want that.

They all seem to have their roles from when I've listened. Harry and Jurko fight and Carm takes one side or the other. Harry tries to be the comedian. Jurko tries to be the dumb Jock. Carm does the tease for the next generic segment.

B&B will never do killer rating. Neither will CJH. They basically split it. I guess that means they both stay.

No. This is all your opinion and it's all wrong.

Nope, RPB is pretty much dead on.

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Spaulding has been consistent in telling me im wrong about Carmen. Ive really given him a chance since, its just not working. If it were Dickerson or Silvy I think I would listen. Harry's sucess/perserverence in the buisness is puzzling to this simple mind.

I don't see this "arrogance" from Carmen that some have described, but I don't listen that much. I've heard enough of him in the past and didn't pick it up. Maybe Carm is sticking his chest out now that he's "made it". It's a big deal to do afternoon drive in Chicago. Like I said, I don't know. Just going by what RPB is saying. Did you always think this of Carmen, RPB? Or has he changed now that he's gotten this show?

Bernstein was much more polite when he was doing weekends and nights from what I recall. He was arrogant but not what he is now. Not to this degree. Maybe once you feel secure and safe your true personality comes out on the radio. Maybe you're hesitant until that happens. It's kind of the same with dating.

I'm not sure he is as intelligent as you guys give him credit for. I don't think he is horrible person but he seems a little phony. I think he acts like a tough guy on the phone but think he'd be different in person. He can be funny but he can also be annoying and draining to listen to. There isn't a lot of joy in the show. They don't seen to enjoy sports or any aspect of it.

The Carmen Jurko an Harry is a bad pairing. I loved Carmen and Silvy. I think you are too harsh on Carmen. He's not a very strong personality and that is why I'm confused by the strong feelings of some that think he is an asshole. He is about as average of a person and vanilla as you can get. That's not a knock either.

DeFalco is the least of the problems over there. I'm not saying he's the greatest guy to drive the show. Jurko is pretty good and RPB is correct in his assesment of Teinowitz. Something is just not quite right about the "chemistry" of these guys, it's like the whole is lesser than the sum of it's parts.


I just can't stand the inflection of Bernstein's voice down the dial....

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Actually I think Carmen has been less arrogant on the new show. Jurko calls him out for stuff that Silvy, Hood, etc would'nt, or at least not as harshly. Carmen is more tolerable than Harry. I think the only thing that made Harry ok on MJH was the legitimate tension between he and Mac.

That is the best description of Horseshit Harry ever.

Who is more intelligent right now that is doing Chicago sports radio?

IMO the issue comes down to you have a more personal interest in the guys on 1000 because you have been to remotes and they have been nice to you, etc. Therefore you are willing to overlook anything that would otherwise be annoying to you with guys like Carmen, Silvy, Jurko, and horserider.

You dont have that personal interest in B&B and therefore you are more willing to be irritated by them or point out their flaws.

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He might be the smartest person on sports radio, that's not saying much, but you guys make him out to be albert freaking einstein. He is well spoken but I'm not sure that is an indication of intelligence and it's sports. I don't think his opinions are more correct than mine but he acts as if people not agreeing with his position cannot possibly get out of bed and get themselves dressed.

It has nothing to do with personal feelings. I've met Mac & Speigel more than I've met Silvy and never met Waddle. W&S have a better show. Carmen and Silvy put me on the pay no mind list when I have met them. Harry forgets who I am everytime I've seen him.

I'm certain if B&B met me they would love me. I might like them but it wouldn't change my opinion of them as a radio show.

I do not recall anyone making him out to be an einstein, I think just about everyone thinks of him as being the most intelligent radio guy in Chicago and that is how he is talked about. I think you are going over the top here a bit.



So what is an indication of intelligence?



You are exaggerating a bit here. Is he like this at times? Yes, but it has way more to do with meatballs that take completely ridiculous stances on things. I dont think you really fall into that category. There are also many times where he has very intelligent coherent conversations with callers about different issues.



To deny your personal feelings here is a little short sighted IMO. I think it is only natural for you to allow your personal feelings to play a part in your opinions.



I am sure they would as well. And I am sure that since you have spoken out so strongly about not liking them, you would not allow your opinion of them to change no matter how they were to you in person.

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I think you guys are going on the size of Bernstein's head to be an indication of his intelligence.

Well hard to argue with logic like that.

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I think they would be great in person.

What I think I don't like about Bernstein is his arrogance and he doesn't listen. He plows ahead with his opinion. That's not intelligence, that's ego.

Because he has an ego and a strong opinion does not mean he is not intelligent.

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It does if it means you don't listen and the need for you to be right is greater than the need to be actually right.