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RFDC · **Joined:** Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm **Posts:** 57569

Yeah you are a pecker alright :wink:

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

RFDC wrote:

Yeah you are a pecker alright :wink:

BTW Kevin Durant= Best player in the league by 2012

FavreFan · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:59 pm

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

Bagels wrote:

yes, I'm the yin to OKC's yang

if the playoffs started today they'd be playing the Spurs w/ home court, 3 vs. 6....I would take the Spurs in that series no question even without home court

Then you'd be losing some money my friend.

Other than Duncan and Blair, I don't see any other definitive matchup advantages with San Antonio's lineup. Who guards Dirk? Who will chase Barea and Terry around? And don't forget, SA has Richard Jefferson, who is the defensive equivalent to swiss cheese. Who does RJ guard? Marion...matchup problem. Howard...matchup problem. I don't see SA beating Dallas in a 7-game series.

C'mon on OKC, Only Blair and Duncan would have advantages? Who guards Parker? Barea and Terry are quick enough to, but both suck on defense in general. 45 year old Kidd cant guard anybody even remotely quick anymore. Parker would have a field day. A healthy Ginobli alone would help with the in-between quarters transitions.

The Spurs weren't healthy last season. The Spurs aren't a November-January team. The Mavs are. Thats the only reason there's a difference in their records.

The Original Kid Cairo · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:00 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

BTW Kevin Durant= Best player in the league by 2012

That's not hard to believe. I already think he's at least top-7 right now.

FavreFan · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:02 pm

Bagels wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Bagels I'm starting to think you are right about Memphis. Memphis/Phoenix/New Orleans/OK City/Houston are all vying for the 7-8 seed right now within a 1/2 game of eachother. I hope I'm not wrong about Houston. They seem to have kinda of flat lined the last month or so. Should be a good race. Crazy to think the Grizz and Bobcats are dangerous teams right now.

of course I'm right. Houston does play tough, but I think in the end they just don't have the offensive firepower of a team like Memphis. Phoenix is slipping fast and may throw in the towel by trading Amare. OKC I think is just one year away. New Orleans can be scary

Just in January the Grizz have wins at Phoenix, at Portland, Utah, San Antonio, Phoenix, OKC and Orlando....those are some good teams there. They've also beaten Cleveland at home. They're going to make it, trust me

Yeah Memphis is playing well. Thats why I said I have come to your side on them. I think Phoenix and even Portland will drop. Definitely Phoenix. But Portland just might not have the horses to make the cut down the stretch. New Orleans isnt even trying to improve their team. They just want to save money. I hope my guy CP3 makes it, but I think they will miss out too. Right now, I think Houston/OKC/Memphis will make the 6-7-8 seeds, since they are all in good position right now, and out of the remaining teams vying for those spots, have the money, assets, and desire to improve this season at the deadline.

Everything can and probably will change after the deadline though.

FavreFan · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:03 pm

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

BTW Kevin Durant= Best player in the league by 2012

That's not hard to believe. I already think he's at least top-7 right now.

Maybe. The one thing that makes that possible is his surprising significant improvement defensively. I'm kinda stunned at how much he improved this season in that regard. Nobody has ever question his offensive abilities.

RFDC · **Joined:** Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm **Posts:** 57569

FavreFan wrote:

The Spurs weren't healthy last season. The Spurs aren't a November-January team. The Mavs are. Thats the only reason there's a difference in their records.

The last 2 times the Spurs and Mavs have played in the playoffs, the Spurs have been the higher seed with homecourt and both times the Mavs won. The Mavs have always matched up with the Spurs well, the problem for the Mavs has been losing to other teams.

FavreFan · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:07 pm

RFDC wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

The Spurs weren't healthy last season. The Spurs aren't a November-January team. The Mavs are. Thats the only reason there's a difference in their records.

The last 2 times the Spurs and Mavs have played in the playoffs, the Spurs have been the higher seed with homecourt and both times the Mavs won. The Mavs have always matched up with the Spurs well, the problem for the Mavs has been losing to other teams.

Yes they do match up well against them. But the only time both teams were in peak condition, that I can remember, was the WCF of 2006. The Mavs did win that series, but it went 7 games and was probably one of the 3 best playoff series of the past decade.

The biggest problem the Spurs have had since 2007 is not being healthy come playoff time. Their key players are so good and there is such a disparity between them and their backups, that missing any of the big 3 is very detrimental to their team. Parker, Duncan, and Ginobli are better than the Mavs top 3 players, but 1-8 the Mavs are deeper, maybe better overall. Hard to say. Plus Carlisle is actually the first good HC they'd had since they've been good, so that makes them even better.

Douchebag · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm **Posts:** 43744

The Mavs and Spurs are both on a downward trend. They will never compete for a title again with the core group of guys they both have assembled. Too oldey and creakey-ey.

Bagels · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:12 pm

Douchebag wrote:

The Mavs and Spurs are both on a downward trend. They will never compete for a title again with the core group of guys they both have assembled. Too oldey and creakey-ey.

This.

FavreFan · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:13 pm

Douchebag wrote:

The Mavs and Spurs are both on a downward trend. They will never compete for a title again with the core group of guys they both have assembled. Too oldey and creakey-ey.

Well I dont know if you consider this competing(not being sarcastic right now), but I'd be kinda shocked if one of those two teams doesnt end up in the WCF. The Lakers, barring injury, will definitely get to the Finals again. I do think a healthy Spurs team can potentially beat them though.

The Original Kid Cairo · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:13 pm

FavreFan wrote:

C'mon on OKC, Only Blair and Duncan would have advantages? Who guards Parker? Barea and Terry are quick enough to, but both suck on defense in general. 45 year old Kidd cant guard anybody even remotely quick anymore. Parker would have a field day. A healthy Ginobli alone would help with the in-between quarters transitions.

SA runs their offense from the inside out: penetrate and pitch. That's what they do. That's all they do. A good zone stops that in its tracks.

I'd place Dirk on Ginobili and make him penetrate...Mavs would have the size advantage and Dirk's quick enough to keep up with Ginobili (Manu is banged up at this point).

Duncan obviously has the matchup in the post but between Gooden, Dampier, and Marion a little physicality goes a long way.

FavreFan · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:15 pm

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

C'mon on OKC, Only Blair and Duncan would have advantages? Who guards Parker? Barea and Terry are quick enough to, but both suck on defense in general. 45 year old Kidd cant guard anybody even remotely quick anymore. Parker would have a field day. A healthy Ginobli alone would help with the in-between quarters transitions.

SA runs their offense from the inside out: penetrate and pitch. That's what they do. That's all they do. A good zone stops that in its tracks.

I'd place Dirk on Ginobili and make him penetrate...Mavs would have the size advantage and Dirk's quick enough to keep up with Ginobili (Manu is banged up at this point).

Duncan obviously has the matchup in the post but between Gooden, Dampier, and Marion a little physicality goes a long way.

There's no way Dirk has the quickness and perimeter footwork to guard Ginobli if he's even at 80% effectiveness. That simply wouldnt work well. Marion...maybe. Plus Dirk starts and Manu comes off the bench so they'd have plenty of stretches of not being on the floor together. Gooden/Damp/Marion cannot guard Duncan.

They still wouldnt come close to having an answer for Parker.

FavreFan · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:18 pm

RFDC wrote:

There are not enough NBA guys around here for us to start having pissing matches with each other. We got to stick together.

Pissing matches are always good. It envokes good discussion, which should always be welcomed in this forum.

On this note, as always, it's easy for the guy who never goes out on a limb or makes predictions to disparage other's predictions gone wrong.

The Original Kid Cairo · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:28 pm

FavreFan wrote:

They still wouldnt come close to having an answer for Parker.

I don't see him sustaining that over 7 games. He'd have his games where he gets off, no doubt. But Dallas is just too deep and they have way too many moving parts they can use to create matchup problems for SA.

I think Marion is the x-factor for Dallas. He can't score like he used to but the Mavs aren't exactly hurting for scorers anyway. He can also guard 4 positions effectively. More than anybody, I'd see Marion being the difference-maker in that series.

There are some teams that match up better against Dallas (Denver being one), but the Spurs absolutely do not scare me.

RFDC · **Joined:** Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm **Posts:** 57569

FavreFan wrote:

On this note, as always, it's easy for the guy who never goes out on a limb or makes predictions to disparage other's predictions gone wrong.

Was this directed to me?

Bagels · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:25 pm

RFDC wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

On this note, as always, it's easy for the guy who never goes out on a limb or makes predictions to disparage other's predictions gone wrong.

Was this directed to me?

yes, obviously. i went out on a limb and told you the grizz would make the playoffs. they might not and then you can call me foolish, but why don't you tell us your Western conference playoff predictions?

by the way, really tough stretch for the Hawks
at Houston
at San Antonio
vs. Boston
at Orlando (back to back w/ Boston)

hoping they'd at least go 2-2...won last night at Houston so not looking bad. I'm just afraid with the Spurs having lost to the Bulls at home they're going to come out extremely aggressive, not wanting to lose again at home back to back...have to withstand that big shot they're going to throw to start the game, I'm sure

Bagels · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:00 pm

tough start for the Hawks. Wow. again, just like i predicted. spurs are throwing the kitchen sink at them right now

up 13 already in the 1st quarter. i fear this one might be over pretty soon

RFDC · **Joined:** Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm **Posts:** 57569

Bagels wrote:

RFDC wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

On this note, as always, it's easy for the guy who never goes out on a limb or makes predictions to disparage other's predictions gone wrong.

Was this directed to me?

yes, obviously. i went out on a limb and told you the grizz would make the playoffs. they might not and then you can call me foolish, but why don't you tell us your Western conference playoff predictions?

First, I did not realize your name was FF.

Second, when did I call you foolish about your Grizz pick? I have read over the NBA predictions thread about 4 times tonight and the only prediction I see from you is the following:

Quote:

Agree with sp that Evans will be ROY. I like Spurs over the Magic in the Finals

Where did you make the Grizz pick and the rest of your playoff picks??

Third, I made my predictions in the predictions thread way back whenever. So why are you guys making it seem like I just sit back and say things after the fact?

Here they are again:

West:

1. Lakers
2. Spurs
3. Denver
4. Portland
5. Dallas
6. Utah
7. New Orleans
8. Phoenix

East:

1. Celtics
2. Cavs
3. Orlando
4. Atlanta
5. Washington
6. Miami
7. Chicago
8. Philly

Finals: Celtics over Lakers

ROY: Griffin
MVP: LeBron

Bagels · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:51 pm

Bagels wrote:

Now, I'm not sure if this is a bandwagon i'm jumping on or not...but i watched a good portion of the Grizzlies- Celtics game last night. Shocking information:

a) the grizzlies are EXCITING
b) the grizzlies are COMPETITIVE

yes, i know- they have Zack Randolph. the black hole. But Rudy Gay is playing out of his mind. OJ Mayo is stepping up. Conley is playing better....Gasol is unheralded. They are playing solid team defense. Hell, even Thabeet is blocking some shots and contributing.

In their last 10 games the only real bad losses they have were @Clippers (bad) and @Utah (understandable). I'll give them a pass on the OKC game as losing to OKC is no longer embarrassing. But wins over Cavs, Mavs, @Blazers and crushing Miami in Miami. And last night, taking Boston to the wire- it took a Ray Allen 3 on the C's final possession with the shot clock at 1 for them to win it. yes a loss is a loss but the point is they are in these games until the end for the most part- competitive.

I feel I'm ready to predict that they will make the playoffs. They're obviously better than the Kings and Clips. I think they are better than OKC. New Orleans is the only team out of the top 8 that I would see making the playoffs...probably take away Houston. I think they can do it. Just watch.

First of all, here's my Grizz prediction since you don't remember. sorry, RDFC, go back to 12/15 and see my post here. It's in the thread, about page 10 or so. must be selective memory. look at the last paragraph there...I specifically I say "I predict" (say it like you mean it). also notice that if you look at the schedule you'd see they were several games under .500 at that point so it's not like I was saying "the Lakers are going to make the Finals" or some other such easy prediction. i know i made full playoff predictions at an earlier point so i'll have to dig those up for you too since you can't remember more than a page or two back

RFDC · **Joined:** Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm **Posts:** 57569

I was not looking in this thread, I was looking in the thread specifically for NBA Predictions:

viewtopic.php?f=91&t=38790

I don't memorize every post you make, O great NBA prognosticator. I will attempt to do better in the future. I will commit to memory every NBA thought you make. I look forward to seeing the Spurs and the Magic in the finals and the mighty Spurs winnings another title since you predicted it, I am sure it will happen, o great one.

Bagels · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:03 pm

RFDC wrote:

I was not looking in this thread, I was looking in the thread specifically for NBA Predictions:

viewtopic.php?f=91&t=38790

I don't memorize every post you make, O great NBA prognosticator. I will attempt to do better in the future. I will commit to memory every NBA thought you make. I look forward to seeing the Spurs and the Magic in the finals and the mighty Spurs winnings another title since you predicted it, I am sure it will happen, o great one.

I did see that.... :lol:

I'm looking as i thought for sure i made full predictions. I also said Tyreke evans for ROY and that's also a strong possibility. of course looking at that prediction I'd probably change it now, but it's not like it was extremely foolish or anything, Spurs and Magic both have a good chance of making the Finals still. you yourself had the Spurs as #2 in the west so obviously not inconceivable to you that they could make the Finals. it's possible your 6-8 could be entirely wrong, not the order but that they might miss the playoffs entirely. also despite not making your list you later said the clippers could make it so playing a little steve stone here and hedging your bets, that way you're bound to be correct if keep predicting various teams

RFDC · **Joined:** Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm **Posts:** 57569

Saying one team out of how many could possibly make it is now hedging my bets? :lol:

I thought you made full predictions as well because I was thinking you said the Mavs would miss the playoffs, but I cannot find it either. Maybe bigfan don't like your predictions and he deleted them.

FavreFan · **Posted:** Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:47 pm

LOL. Yes, more pissing matches, and I instigated this one!! I feel like spmack.

It was directed at you RFDC but I was just giving you shit, like how you like to give me shit about all my wrong predictions even though I've made like 1,000 on here so I'm sure 2 or 3 may have been off...

I remember disagreeing with you Bagels. But I didnt get to see a Memphis game all season till the one against Phoenix a week or so ago.

I said before the season the Rockets and Thunder will compete for a playoff spot, I think I actually had the Thunder in it. I said the Clippers would make it, and I still think if Blake was healthy they would have. I really hope Houston doesn't fade. I like that team.

RFDC · **Joined:** Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm **Posts:** 57569

FavreFan wrote:

It was directed at you RFDC but I was just giving you shit, like how you like to give me shit about all my wrong predictions even though I've made like 1,000 on here so I'm sure 2 or 3 may have been off...

Ah what do you know anyhow, you are just a LA drunk driving hickabilly. :wink:

FavreFan · **Posted:** Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:28 pm

Is there any question right now that the Celtics are Rondo's team. The only question that remains is whether he realizes it or not. That will determine how far they go.

Bagels · **Posted:** Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:04 am

i think having Chris Paul out for a month or more could pretty much sink the Hornets in the west...i know they're 4-4 or something w/o him, but .500 is not going to cut in the West and they may get worse than yet. and yes i also know Collison played well before, but I think as far as the 6-8 teams in the west, this seriously jeopardizes NO's chances; if they have a rough stretch here they may not make it

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Prediction: Bulls win a playoff series

Douchebag · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm **Posts:** 43744

rogers park bryan wrote:

Prediction: Bulls win a playoff series

Unless the Bulls get to the 5th seed, and get to play Miami, there is no way they win a playoff series. They will not beat Cleveland, Boston, or Orlando in a 7 game series.

Bagels · **Posted:** Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:12 am

or the Hawks :roll:

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