OK, you're crazy. Jones had a few good years long ago in the comfort of an indoor arena in Detroit. He will likely never get back the burst he once had. With questionable knees and joints he's not likely to withstand the punishment a Bears back has to take. 6-10 touches per game would seem to be optimistic. He's an injury waiting to happen & even if healthy, I don't think he realistically has anything left.

As to his knowing the offense, I'd wonder about that as well. He had one year w/Martz in an offense dominated by Roy Williams and Mike Furrey, both of whom were better than the Bears' best.

Forte is exceedingly average to above average at best. His best attribute, if he stays healthy will be a modest cap number, but that's about it IMO.

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When I really think about it this type of offense may be perfect for LT because he wouldn't have to run the ball as much. I would be open to it if it made sense but he wouldn't be a guy I would target.

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Pro Football Reference is wrong in this regard. There were all pros at every line position incl. TE (IIRC) during Emmitt's glory years. Factor in a very good blocking back, WRs who legitimately could block in a very diverse offense, it was tailor made for any good, durable running back to gain 10-12K yards.

And since Thurman Thomas was mentioned, I'd include him in the list of RBs I have more respect for. (edit: than Emmitt)

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LT in the Bears' offense(and with this lack of talent, anywhere) is an open invitation to eight in the box defenses. He cannot run with power and on the off chance he actually bounces off a tackler (on a clean track), his lack of evasive ability has made the bull's eye on his back larger and clearer than ever.

It's too bad (for him) that Cincinnati has already stocked up on retreads, he'd be perfect there (or alternatively somewhere wide open like N. Orleans)

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That's fair. I really don't have anything to go off of but a gut feeling.

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Understandable. I'd always thought of Kevin Jones as a solid pro (latter days in Detroit aside), with more talent than Forte at his best.

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If the Oline gets better at run blocking, then Matt Forte does better than last year. LT behind the same Oline that the Bears had last year does not a whole hellava lot more than Forte.

Torry Holt, LT, Orlando Pace...jeez. Is Trent Green available?

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I'm more interested in Flipper Anderson.

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I wonder why no one ever holds this against Terrell Davis

He was completely surrounded by Pro Bowlers.

Because it was the common wisdom that TD put that team on his back, made everyone else around him better....rejuvenated Elway, unlike Emmitt (fair or not)

Besides, to the naked eye of most, TD was a better runner/running back

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I don't think the Bears want to bring in a RB who will challenge Forte or make him look bad. The Bears protect their draft picks to a fault. Personally, I would like to see the Bears sign Chester Taylor. He's a better RB than Forte so it will probably not happen.
I still don't understand what they ever saw in Kevin Jones...or Garrett Wolfe for that matter.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

The 93 Cowboys team went 0-2 without Emmitt Smith, 16-1 with him, and the one loss was the Leon Lett game.

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Lets not get all revisionist here. While the record is undeniable, the distraction Jerry Jones caused was bigger than just Emmitt or his absence. That TEAM could do nothing right during training camp and the first few weeks that season. Those (to borrow from Jerry Krause) were organizational losses as strange as it sounds.

It was such an organizational fuck up it also ultimately led to Jimmy Johnson's leaving after that season. Not that there was anything wrong with that

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Yeah, that seems a little overstated. Everyone says TD rejuvenated Elway.

He had 3 pro bowl offenseive lineman, John Fucking Elway, Shannon Sharpe, Howard Griffith and McCaffrey and Smith.

Pretty nice setup

And a great coach

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Again, fair or not as "America's Team" everyone knew everyone on Dallas, they all were overwhelming favorites for the pro bowl. Conversely, at the time Elway was tabbed a loser, Denver's O line had a standing moratorium on interviews, Rod Smith was a just a rookie/2nd yr. guy, McCaffery & Griffith were not tabbed as "special" and Sharpe was reviled as a loudmouth.

(Yeah, I know Irvin was a loudmouth, but he was the team leader/first arrival in Dallas)

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3 offensive lineman, Elway, Sharpe, and McCaffrey all went to the Pro Bowl.

And if there's one thing the CSFMB has taught me its: A Pro Bowl appearance= Legend

heh. yeah...ok.



IB was only 2 years old in '93 so i don't think he really knows about that team anyway.

to go back in time and try to find what running backs belonged to what offensive lines to see how "great" they really were would just take too long.

but i agree that emmitt did benefit from some great o-lines. actually you kinda have to. unless you ARE barry sanders, the holes in the defense have to open up, otherwise there's nowhere else to go.

LT better than emmitt?



psh.

emmitt is clearly a top-five RB. on top of being a great runner, he was tough as nails and played through some hard-core injuries. i remember him playing one stretch with a dislocated shoulder where he had his bum arm strapped to his side so he could hardly lift it, but he still was running wild.

i know there is a lot of sentiment that he got the rushing record simply due to longevity, not due greatness as a runner, but i think that is crazy. he was a GREAT runner during that super bowl stretch, i dont care what line he was behind. yeah, he hung on for a while at the end, but im not gonna hold that against him.

YOU'RE HIGH! Emmitt couldn't hold LT's jockstrap.

Looks like I hit a HR with my Thurman Thomas comparison.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... itEm00.htm

They compare LT to Barry.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... mlLa00.htm

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LT isn't even in the team photo with Emmitt Smith. Smith was the better back, better teammate, & had a better career & won championships.
However, if we are going to say that Emmitt benefited greatly from playing behind some great Offensive lines, doesn't that logic then elevate Walters RB status since he played behind garbage lines?

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Walter is in my top 5 but Emmitt isn't. Barry Sanders is #1.

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The top 4 RB's are easy for me, but I can't get the 5th. Hard to believe that Martin & Bettis are 4th & 5th in all time rushing yards.

Walter
Barry
Emmitt
Jim
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Barry Sanders
Jim Brown
Walter Payton
Marshall Faulk
Earl Campbell/LT

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Emmitt in front of Jim Brown huh?

Jim Brown could easily be #1 on any list.

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i like earl campbell as much as the next guy (i actually agree that during his prime he was indeed great), but top 5 all-time seems pushing it for a guy who only had 5 seasons where he carried the ball 300 times.

LT and Faulk don't belong in the all time best 5 either.

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