Whenever Manning and LeBron sign contracts this year I'll say it.

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If Tommie Harris is 80% of what he was in 06' Peppers will really pay off. At that point they could put you or I a safety.

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This scheme is built on speed and covering holes. If you'll pardon the expression. If you saw me in HD today, I would not be a prime candidate for Bears Safety.

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YOU know the saying. "If if was a fifth..."

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1st page of this thread? Kowality. 2nd page had too much relevant info about the subject.

When in Rome

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$13 Million per year is a shit load of money for a guy who averages just 10 sacks per season, doesn't play the run very well, & just signed his last NFL contract.

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Yes. Now stop making sense you jerks. I'm trying to be Christmas (Bears) drunk. This common sense is ruining it for me.

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They could have had both of them and probably been able to fire and buy out lovie. While this could work out, it could also be soriano bad.

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Not my money. I would have gone after about 6-8 mid-level guys & Chester Taylor. In the NFL,I think "Deep Depth" is more important then any one great player who is NOT a superstar QB or RB. I'm excited they signed him,but I have to wonder who makes bigger plays next year: Rolle or Peppers. The thing is,Peppers is a guy who disrupts an offense just like THarris WAS. Now 2 guys like that on a line (with a healthy Harris),it might get very interesting next season.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Kampman wont have more sacks than Peppers next year. This is easily the best move the Bears could have done to improve their team instantly. Peppers will have a pretty significant impact.

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He had 7 more sacks, and that includes the 2.5 sack year of 2007, quite an anomaly on his career stat page. The past two seasons Peppers has 25 sacks and 10 forced fumbles and Ogunleye has 11.5 sacks and 1 forced fumble. Those two cant seriously be mentioned in the same breath. Your top DE just went from a D+ to an A.

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So 2 more sacks a year over 3 years is worth $90M? No wonder Peppers had that smile on his face. Kampman has 2 fewer sacks in the past 3 years even though he missed 7 games last year and had to play in a 3-4 defense. Over the past 4 years they have the same amount of sacks even though Kampman played in 6 fewer games. All of this while Peppers was playing for a contract. I don't know why you think it's crazy to say Kampman will have more sacks. He's done it 2 out of the past 4 seasons.

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Did Aaron Kampman go to your college or something?

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Like I said, the 2007 season shouldnt be a big factor. Look at that season compared to the rest of his years. I think it's safe to say he wont get 2.5 sacks for a whole season again soon. Kampman isnt nearly as good, and more importantly, isn't even fully recovered.

His 2007 season throws the results way too much when you look at past 3 years. Over the past two years he has 25 sacks and 10 forced fumbles. That's the type of production you can expect.

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You're right Kampman isn't as talented as Peppers. That being said based on their identical production in the sack department over the past 4 seasons (even though Kampman played 6 fewer games) they aren't that far apart. If Peppers is a 10 then Kampman is no worse than an 8. My guess is the Bears could have had Kampman and Rolle for a lot less ($30M less) than they are paying Peppers. We'll see what happens next season. I would love to be as wrong as I was about Rose and Beasley but I doubt that will be the case.

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How many more wins will the Bears have because of Peppers? Big time free agent signings don't usually improve a team that much. The Bears still need 2 OL, 1 WR, 1 S, & maybe 1 DB or CB.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

Sean Joneshttp://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5584 is still on the market. I'll go in record saying he will have a better 2010 season then Rolle.

I think he could add 2-3 wins to the team. An elite pass rushing DE is the most important defensive position. They just got one who's as good as anyone in the league at it.

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Like I said, 1.) That 2007 season is so vastly different than every other season on his resume. He's the 10-12 sack a year guy, not 2.5. 2.) Sacks arent the only thing you can judge on. He only had 1 sack against the Vikings but it was clear he was easily the best player on the field that night for either team.

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How much more is Peppers double-teamed compared to Kampman?

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"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

I understand that but you also have to do the same for Kampman. He had to play LB in a 3-4 last year. Also 2007 wasn't the only year he had more sacks than Peppers over the last 4 seasons. Like I said if Peppers is a 10 then Kampman is no worse than an 8. I'll take an 8 if that means I can fill the hole at safety with one of the better safeties in league and still save money.

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Lovie and Jerry are not concerned with money at this point (except for their paychecks).

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But it's not their money. It's the McCaskeys money. I still cant believe the McCaskeys trusted Teddy, Jerry & Lovie to spend $60+ million guaranteed, yet they wouldn't invest in upgrading the managament or coaches.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

What is funny to me about this whole thing is for the last several decades people constantly complained about how cheap the McCaskeys are. Now I laugh when I see/hear people complaining that they spent too much money on this deal.

Time will tell if it was a mistake or not but good for them for trying. Perhaps they, like me, want to win now, not a few years from now. Virginia is in her 80's and her kids are not spring chickens. Unlike some of you yutes, they do not have the luxury of waiting.

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"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

That's why they spent it. If they hadn't, they'd hear the complaints about being cheap, but moreso, that they didn't give Angelo and Lovie the players they needed to succeed in their final year. With no draft picks and no free agents, Jerry and Lovie could have gotten another free pass.

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I'm good. I'm on board. Let's go!