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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 2:17 pm 
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I'm sure I'd be mad if I were a Mavs fan.... then again I'm sure I'd be mad if I were a Mavs fan regardless.

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 2:17 pm 
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trust me, the Mavs would lose regardless of who's reffing :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That's the thing though. They have a .544 winning percentage when he's not the ref. They have a .111 winning percentage when he's the ref.

.544 is good but not great but I'd expect the worst playoff team every year to at least be good enough to win 1/10 games.

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trust me, the Mavs would lose regardless of who's reffing :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That's the thing though. They have a .544 winning percentage when he's not the ref. They have a .111 winning percentage when he's the ref.

.544 is good but not great but I'd expect the worst playoff team every year to at least be good enough to win 1/10 games.


well yeah, that's the thing about conspiracy theories- they're hard to prove.

i think you'd have to look at a lot of other factors other than just win percentage to draw some kind of conclusion- i'm not going to go through the effort but pull up those box scores. let's see how they shot. what the FT discrepancy was. turnovers. rebounding. just saying there could be a million factors that influence how a team plays. yes i'll admit it's an odd coincidence but until i see a lot more stats showing that say, the opponents shot 30 more FT in every game, I can't really give it much credence. it's easy to look at one stat- in this case wins- but there are a million other factors that go into that win, let's see you break those stats down. again not saying i'm dismissing your theory i just want to see some more in-depth stats


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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 2:25 pm 
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Bagels wrote:
well yeah, that's the thing about conspiracy theories- they're hard to prove.

Panther will have this one solved in about 3 minutes...

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I'm not going to argue a theory just to argue a theory that I'm not even arguing. :lol:

It's probably part personal bias, part style of calling the game, and part matchups/small sample size. If this was true over another 20-50 we might have a little more of a definitive answer. If I was an NBA bettor I'd probably have a lot better answers.

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Bagels wrote:
trust me, the Mavs would lose regardless of who's reffing :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I'm sure I'd be mad if I were a Mavs fan.... then again I'm sure I'd be mad if I were a Mavs fan regardless.

:lol: The Mavs kicked me in the nuts and both you guys just tossed dirt on my fallen body for good measure.

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believe me, i was prepared to take major shit had the Hawks lost that series.


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I don't know if this has been talked about but this came from the sports guy. Sorry Mavs fans.

Danny Crawford
Just the facts according to our guy Alok Pattani. Starting with the 2001 playoffs:

A. The Mavs are 2-16 in playoff games officiated by Crawford since 2001 (including Game 3 of the Spurs series, a loss) ... and 46-39 in all other playoff games. They won their first 2001 playoff game with him (Game 5 versus Utah), so they've lost 15 of the past 16.

B. Against the spread, the Mavs are 4-14 with Crawford officiating ... and 45-40 in all other playoff games.

C. They averaged 21.9 free throws in the Crawford games; 27.1 free throws in the non-Crawford games.

I don't follow the NBA, so I have absolutely no ax to grind here. But both of those first numbers are easily statistically significant to the p = .1

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I thought Crawford hated Duncan and the Spurs?

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Can't wait for the Suns/Spurs series to start tonight, should be a great series.

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Sheed turned back the clock.

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Queen James will blame this one on his elbow. I would love to see them get upset. Would give him another reason to leave.

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Now on to the Suns game. Looking good 46-34 Suns 4 min left in 2nd.

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So they finally switched Hill off of Nash with Parker. This is probably a key match up not only for the rest of the game but for the series.

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12-2 run to end the third for the Suns all while Parker was on the bench.Not sayin just sayin

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way for the Celtics to steal one in Cleveland

this is going to go 7


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way for the Celtics to steal one in Cleveland

this is going to go 7

For me, this is like if the Knicks and the Pistons had a playoff series in 1991...I don't like either team so I don't care about the outcome.

That Suns/Spurs series is gonna be fun. I'm officially adopting Phoenix for the rest of the playoffs.

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won't last long... :(


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I'm officially adopting Phoenix for the rest of the playoffs.


Damn. I had such hope for the Suns. Oh well.

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I'm officially adopting Phoenix for the rest of the playoffs.


Damn. I had such hope for the Suns. Oh well.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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You laugh now, but just wait...

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This series could get ugly. The Hawks don't have a chance and I would be shocked if they didn't get swept.

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:shock: Wow! Just flipped to Hawks/Magic. Magic up by 41 headed into the 4th. Well, I'm not watching another game from this series.

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Poor Bagels.

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Poor Bagels.


Someone needs to check on him.

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Someone needs to check on him.


thanks. I'm ok. if you look at my posts i was in no way saying they would win more than 1 game this series. i thought they would win the big game 3 that all losers somehow manage to win at home, then go back to losing the next one

there's a difference between wanting a team to win and thinking they are going to win. obviously i want the Hawks to win. do i think they will? hell no. yeah, it turned out worse than even i thought. if the rest of the series is going to go like this i would have just as soon seen them eliminated by the Bucks.


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