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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 11:48 pm 
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Bad Movie.


I'm going to forget you ever said that.


Yea, that's just wrong.

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 11:52 pm 
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Let me remind you. Bad Movie. I don't know if it's the Kostner or Busfield factor or that I think most of the script is stupid but yuck.


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The baseball team that Costner pretends to own in Lake County is a real comedy of errors.

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I really fucking hate Kevin Costner.

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 12:21 am 
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Mr. Reason wrote:
I really fucking hate Kevin Costner.


Watched Tin Cup a couple of nights ago on the Golf channel. Great movie.

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:25 am 
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Aggravated Sox Fan Bob wrote:
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I long for the days when the Cub were not popular. I could buy a bleacher seat for 5 bucks the day of the game.
This franchise is a victim of success base solely on the atmosphere and not the product on the field. They have spent the last decade spending lots of money unwisely in an effort to appease the 15 motherfucking percent the show up to day baseball.
It's akin to someone winning the lottery. They didn't earn the money, so they don't know how to keep it.
The Cub earned none of their recent popularity by building a great baseball organization. I don't give a fuck if they are paid to paint the place pink as long as they use the money wisely and build an organization from the bottom up.
I hold out hope that Shingles is laying the foundation.



That's all anyone can do.
People HAVE to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
Crazed Scorehead expects him to come in and fire the whole operation without having any replacements in mind...typical Hooterville idiocy.
Hendry probably will get fired....YOU DON'T DO IT IN APRIL.



Only a moron would think the first thing Ricketts should have done was fire Hendry.

First the Cubshad just finished their 3rd season in a row with a winning record and 5th out of 7 seasions since Hendry became GM.
Secondly you don't change GMs in November.


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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:27 am 
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Moving a guy for .50 cents on the dollar is stupid?

So next year you coould have Tyler Colvin is LF for $400,000 and pay 1/2 of Soriano's salary elsewhere, costing you $9.4 M and thats not better than paying Soriano $18 M?

Yes, I do think Ricketts should have spent a little more money this year. Specifically on some bullpen help, that could have direclty resulted in some wins. Fact is after the first 14 games of the year the Cubs had a lead in every game.

The payroll issue is going to go away next year as it will actually start declining next year and in 2012 takes a huge decline when Z, Aramis, Fuku, Demp, Silva all those deals are up. Over $60 million comes due!!

My only issue with Ricketts is this year and his desire to win this year. I don' think he gave a shit. I think he accpeted that he bought a team that needed to let the cards play out and he just didnt care. He wants to win with the team and organization that he builds.



Thanks for pointing that out. Lilly and Lee come off the books after this season as well.

Ideally the kids start producing and as the big names fall off the books we can get others to replace them.

Part of the problem wiht the Cubs over the years is not the amount they spend but that with no farm system no inexpensive kids to fill positions anywhere so they have to spend at least a million at every position.


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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:29 am 
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cubbiegirlshamus wrote:
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Moving a guy for .50 cents on the dollar is stupid?

So next year you coould have Tyler Colvin is LF for $400,000 and pay 1/2 of Soriano's salary elsewhere, costing you $9.4 M and thats not better than paying Soriano $18 M?

Yes, I do think Ricketts should have spent a little more money this year. Specifically on some bullpen help, that could have direclty resulted in some wins. Fact is after the first 14 games of the year the Cubs had a lead in every game.

The payroll issue is going to go away next year as it will actually start declining next year and in 2012 takes a huge decline when Z, Aramis, Fuku, Demp, Silva all those deals are up. Over $60 million comes due!!

My only issue with Ricketts is this year and his desire to win this year. I don' think he gave a shit. I think he accpeted that he bought a team that needed to let the cards play out and he just didnt care. He wants to win with the team and organization that he builds.



Thanks for pointing that out. Lilly and Lee come off the books after this season as well.

Ideally the kids start producing and as the big names fall off the books we can get others to replace them.

Part of the problem wiht the Cubs over the years is not the amount they spend but that with no farm system no inexpensive kids to fill positions anywhere so they have to spend at least a million at every position.


Also this idiotic Colvin has a good month let's get rid of Soriano who right now is htting around 300 with 6 homeruns let's give a little while before we name Colvin Jesus Christ.

I do like what we've seen of him so far don't get me wrong. But he could be this years Micah Hoffpauir.


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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:32 am 
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I dont think its that high. No higher percentage than Yankee Stadium, Fenway Park or Dodger Stadium.


i didn't say it was high. i said there was a percentage. and they come because it's wrigley, not to see the cubs.


And there are people who prefer the cell because of the food and the bathrooms. That's hardly baseball related.

I love when idiots keep whining about the bathrooms. I agree that they aren't great but am I the only one who doesn't go to the ballpark to go to the bathroom? I go in do my business and get out.

And if I was so worried about food I'd stay home and eat there.

The one nice addition to Wrigley this year has been more vegetarian options. I didn't notice them before but we took a friend who's a vegetarian on Saturday and he had no trouble finding options.


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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:57 am 
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cubbiegirlshamus wrote:
Aggravated Sox Fan Bob wrote:
Mr. Reason wrote:
I long for the days when the Cub were not popular. I could buy a bleacher seat for 5 bucks the day of the game.
This franchise is a victim of success base solely on the atmosphere and not the product on the field. They have spent the last decade spending lots of money unwisely in an effort to appease the 15 motherfucking percent the show up to day baseball.
It's akin to someone winning the lottery. They didn't earn the money, so they don't know how to keep it.
The Cub earned none of their recent popularity by building a great baseball organization. I don't give a fuck if they are paid to paint the place pink as long as they use the money wisely and build an organization from the bottom up.
I hold out hope that Shingles is laying the foundation.



That's all anyone can do.
People HAVE to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
Crazed Scorehead expects him to come in and fire the whole operation without having any replacements in mind...typical Hooterville idiocy.
Hendry probably will get fired....YOU DON'T DO IT IN APRIL.



Only a moron would think the first thing Ricketts should have done was fire Hendry.

First the Cubshad just finished their 3rd season in a row with a winning record and 5th out of 7 seasions since Hendry became GM.
Secondly you don't change GMs in November.


Do you think Hendrys job performance has been good? Do you think he should be retained as Cubs GM?

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:02 am 
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I think I'm a reasonable person. I'm not a guy that hates the Cubs or even thinks about them a whole lot.

:lol:
You've called out several Sox fans and accused them of being Stealth Cub fans JORR

Youve been going at it for 5 pages with very informative and researched posts about the Cubs and their new owner.

Im not agreeing with what CIJ is saying but Cmon JORR

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their 102 year history of futility

As opposed to 87 years of futility?


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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:16 am 
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I haven't posted in any Cub topics here like the "Stereotypical Angry Sox Fan." I don't go in and comment on Z being moved to the bullpen or laugh at the failure of any Cub players. Because, like I said, I really don't care.

But this thread isn't really about the Cubs, although some of their fans seem to want to make it about them. It's about an antique ballpark and as much as I'm loathe to admit it, I really don't want that park to go away- or even change very much. It's part of Chicago. And Chicago might be Hooterville in a lot of ways, but having major league teams from both leagues isn't one of them. (Although with the advent of interleague play that isn't so important as it once was.)

Really, the only reason I originally posted in the thread was because my fellow Sox fan, ASFB used it as a jumping off point for bashing all things White Sox. And I don't mind him slamming the Sox. There's plenty to slam. But I'd prefer he do it amongst a group of other Sox fans rather than in a forum where Cub fans are going to join in. Because cubbiegirlshamus and Mike Murphy and Matt Abbatacola are never going to go to the lengths in slamming the Cubs that supposed Sox fans like Mike North and dan bernstein will in bashing the Sox.

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And my major point about the Sox is after 30 years, Bizarro Reinsdorf should have figured out that developing your own players is a bit better of an approach than patching a team together every Winter trying to catch lightning in a bottle.

Now The Chairman is on to his Del Negro nonsense....Of course the cowering media in this town forgets that REINSDORF hired Del Negro after a 3 hour meeting discussing Del Negro's "Defensive Philosophy".

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:10 am 
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cubbiegirlshamus wrote:
Aggravated Sox Fan Bob wrote:
Mr. Reason wrote:
I long for the days when the Cub were not popular. I could buy a bleacher seat for 5 bucks the day of the game.
This franchise is a victim of success base solely on the atmosphere and not the product on the field. They have spent the last decade spending lots of money unwisely in an effort to appease the 15 motherfucking percent the show up to day baseball.
It's akin to someone winning the lottery. They didn't earn the money, so they don't know how to keep it.
The Cub earned none of their recent popularity by building a great baseball organization. I don't give a fuck if they are paid to paint the place pink as long as they use the money wisely and build an organization from the bottom up.
I hold out hope that Shingles is laying the foundation.



That's all anyone can do.
People HAVE to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
Crazed Scorehead expects him to come in and fire the whole operation without having any replacements in mind...typical Hooterville idiocy.
Hendry probably will get fired....YOU DON'T DO IT IN APRIL.



Only a moron would think the first thing Ricketts should have done was fire Hendry.

First the Cubshad just finished their 3rd season in a row with a winning record and 5th out of 7 seasions since Hendry became GM.
Secondly you don't change GMs in November.



WRONG....You should change the GM in November, if you think he's a bad one. that way whomever is put in that position, has the chance to make all the moves that go on during the winter meetings and through the free agent signing period. Yeah, the Cubs technically had a winning season last year, in that they won a couple more than they lost. But anyone that doesn't consider the season and the moves Hendry made prior to it, to be disastrous, is nuts. He has overpaid far too many players to LOOOOONG term contracts and signed guys that were trouble. That said, the moves he made to obtain Carlos Silva for Milton Bradley has worked out better so far than I ever imagined it might. In addition, the Marlon Byrd signing is looking like a far better move than I anticipated it being-even if it also keeps Tyler Colvin from playing more. But the manner in which he failed to upgrade a horrible bullpen, remains a major disappointment and will likely be the reason the Cubs will not be in any post-season action. I do hope that he's able to make a move or two at/near the trading deadline that rectifies that situation and alters the teams chances. But as well as the starting pitching and the hitters have done so far, there is no reason why they should only be 13-13 at this point, other than the awful bullpen. With as much money as Hendry has been given to aquire players, just having a winning team is not really a great accomplishment.

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Mr. Reason wrote:
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well, i love my team. that doesn't mean i don't see how bad they can be. i'm usually hard on the teams i love actually.

Zach, unfortunately, we are often lumped into the dumb motherfucking 15 percent....


The unemployed ones that go out for day baseball and boo the team? :lol:

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Bad Movie.


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Spaulding wrote:
Let me remind you. Bad Movie. I don't know if it's the Kostner or Busfield factor or that I think most of the script is stupid but yuck.


I wasted 20 minutes of my life reading this thread and then it gets topped off by this nonsense.

Jesus Christ, Spaulding, what the hell pumps the blood through your veins? Who wouldn't want to have a catch with their old, dead father?

No Ray, it was you. :cry: :cry:

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Now that he got the ugly sign up, I heard Ricketts is shaking down the rooftop owners again. Not sure I can handle Year Two.

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I wasted 20 minutes of my life reading this thread and then it gets topped off by this nonsense.

Jesus Christ, Spaulding, what the hell pumps the blood through your veins? Who wouldn't want to have a catch with their old, dead father?


It's a male chick flick. It's crap.


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FUCK THE ALDERMAN...FUCK THESE NO LIFE "TRADITIONALISTS"....FUCK THE ROOF TOP OWNERS...FUCK THE HORSESHOE CASINO SIGN AND THE OWNER OF THAT BUILDING...

TOM RICKETTS OWNS THE CUBS AND THE BALLPARK..IT IS NOT SOME SACRED PUBLIC TRUST...IT IS HIS PLAYPEN...WHERE DO THESE FANS GET OFF THINKING THEY HAVE A LEGAL INTEREST IN THE CUBS OR THEIR BALLPARK.....
IF CUB FANS DON'T LIKE RICKETTS OR HIS SIGN...GO TO BREWERS GAMES...GROW THE FUCK UP...



because 40,000 of us attend every game every year...and because we like what we're used to...its one of the few things in Chicago that is old-school...if Ricketts doesnt like what he sees then he should go back to bumfuck KC and relearn the old-school values that the midwest apparently failed to teach him

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