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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:45 am 
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This thing looks like its going to be the funniest movie to come out in years. Check out the many clips on youtube:

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I don't know if it can keep me interested for 1.5 hours. I'll wait until it becomes overrated by the same crowd that loved Napoleon Dynamite.


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I much anticipate the uncaging of this movie film entertainment.

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The Borat movie earned an average rating of 90 on Metacritic--that's the second highest score for a release this year, and a full 5 points ahead of The Departed. Very excited to see this film--should be much good entertainment.

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I'm going to see it early tomorrow to hopefully avoid crowds. It got 4 stars in the tribune today and has gotten 4 stars in every review I've seen so far. The Trib was even mentioning it in the same sentences as Monty Python-Holy Grail and This is Spinal Tap. Pretty good accolades.


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It sounds great, but I expect to be dissapointed somehow.


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I can't remember the last time so many critics have arated a comedy so high. This rarely happens. Might sneak to watch it tonight after the remote.


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Cautiously optimistic. It seems to me that the funniest part of the Ali G show is the fact that his comic foils are ignorant to the fact that it's a joke. I don't know if a scripted comedy will have the same effect.

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Found out not all of it is scripted in this movie.


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It delivered, worth the wait, hilarious!


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The theatre roared with laughter. We went to see the 10:20 show, but it was sold out, so we bought tickets for the 11:20 show, and went to the bar in the meantime. Apparently, the hype has worked, because that theatre was packed.

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I saw a matinee today in Skokie. The theater was about 2/3 full. The crowd seemed to have a favorable reaction, although there wasn't as much laughter for Borat as there was when I saw Wedding Crashers, 40-Year Old Virgin, or even The Departed. I thought the movie was good, but it focused way too much on obvious toilet humor instead of developing the more sophisticated sociological aspects of Borat and his ability to expose the prejudices of unwitting Americans. When he went to the Rebel antique shop, for instance, he should have explored the racial attitudes of the owners rather than letting the scene degenerate into a tired slapstick routine with him tripping over a bunch of collectables. All in all, Borat's "ignorance" should have been used to better effect in revealing the ignorant attitudes Americans have towards racial and religious minorites as well as foreign cultures. Expending so much energy on masturbation jokes and nude male wrestling seems like a waste--that stuff has been done before, though perhaps not as memorably.

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Midge, everything doesn't have to include a sophisticated sociological message. Just laugh man.

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Mr. Reason wrote:
Midge, everything doesn't have to include a sophisticated sociological message. Just laugh man.


True, but the scenes where he gets regular people to go along with or say something insane are the funniest ones. There's not that much funny about a guy tripping over antiques. The best parts of the movie were little things like getting the car dealer to go along with the "How fast would I have to be going to make sure I kill them" and the guy at the rodeo who responded "That's what we're trying to do here" to Borat suggesting execution for homosexuals. There's nothing wrong with a little slapstick, but the sociological stuff was way funnier.

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True, but the scenes where he gets regular people to go along with or say something insane are the funniest ones. There's not that much funny about a guy tripping over antiques. The best parts of the movie were little things like getting the car dealer to go along with the "How fast would I have to be going to make sure I kill them" and the guy at the rodeo who responded "That's what we're trying to do here" to Borat suggesting execution for homosexuals. There's nothing wrong with a little slapstick, but the sociological stuff was way funnier.

True, but still, the nude wrestling was pretty damn funny.

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I find social satire funnier than locker room humor.

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Downloaded it over the weekend along with The Departed. Hopefully it's a decent copy.


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Eh, he's done the racial or risque answers thing alot, I think there he was hoping that the owner pulled out a shotgun on him but the guy was actually pretty nice. Probably just needed a reason to run out of money and get his producer mad at him. I'm with Mr. Reason


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You've missed the point. Borat doesn't simply make racial jokes as a reactionary comedian like Sam Kinison or Andrew Dice Clay would. Rather, he uses the medium of racial jokes to subvert their constitution, to reveal the blind spots of the culture that produces sterotypes and satirize it. That is what makes Cohen's humor both original and funny. As for the locker room stuff, we've all seen it a million times before from tons of other comedians. If that's what you enjoy, though, knock yourself out.

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Coach, if you have ever seen the "Throw the Jew down the well" clip, it is a perfect example of what TM is talking about. Cohen is not singing a bigoted song in order for the song to be considered funny. The humor is that he sings it straight and the crowd enthusiasticly joins in, revealing its feelings about a subject you might never talk about in proper society.


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I find social satire funnier than locker room humor.


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I'm with you a 100% on that.
That's why the BBC's "The Office" was a work of genius, while the US version became just another sitcom.

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You've missed the point. Borat doesn't simply make racial jokes as a reactionary comedian like Sam Kinison or Andrew Dice Clay would. Rather, he uses the medium of racial jokes to subvert their constitution, to reveal the blind spots of the culture that produces sterotypes and satirize it. That is what makes Cohen's humor both original and funny. As for the locker room stuff, we've all seen it a million times before from tons of other comedians. If that's what you enjoy, though, knock yourself out.


Kinnison was one of the brightest comedians ever, once he was more mainstream he dumbed his act down, but his early stuff was brilliant, best religious material ever. Dice was low brow, but the guy has some of the great one-liners off all time.


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Kinnison was one of the brightest comedians ever, once he was more mainstream he dumbed his act down, but his early stuff was brilliant


His late stuff had moments too.
Comparing Dr. Ruth's pussy to a grilled cheese sandwich was brilliant.

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he's done the racial or risque answers thing alot


You've missed the point. Borat doesn't simply make racial jokes as a reactionary comedian like Sam Kinison or Andrew Dice Clay would. Rather, he uses the medium of racial jokes to subvert their constitution, to reveal the blind spots of the culture that produces sterotypes and satirize it. That is what makes Cohen's humor both original and funny. As for the locker room stuff, we've all seen it a million times before from tons of other comedians. If that's what you enjoy, though, knock yourself out.


No I haven't missed the point and I don't need it explained, and no that scene wasn't that funny, the point I was making was that it was probably just filler they wanted for the plot to show he was out of money and to get the producer mad at him again.


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so you are telling me that the man who tried to put a rubber fist in my anus..........was a homosexual ?

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the borat movie was hilarious...the whole theater could not stop laughing

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