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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:32 pm 
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I would put this in the NFL part, but since Rodgers is taking on A media personality, I'll put it here.

You know who was better than Tony Kornheiser? Dennis Miller was ten times better. Dennis Miller was a great comedian, but one of the worst Monday Night Football guys ever. And he was ten times better than Tony Kornheiser. His stuff was actually funny. Tony stuff wasn’t funny at all. He did no research. We’d sit in those production meetings and he would add absolutely nothing to the conversation. I’d be like, ‘What are we doing here? This is stupid.’ … You get in there with Tony and he’s asking you all these dumb questions that have no application to the game you are playing or anything you are doing. He’s terrible… I don’t think he’s funny. I don’t think he’s insightful. I don’t think [he] knows anything about sports.


-- Packers QB Aaron Rodgers on former ESPN Monday Night Football analyst Tony Kornheiser

If ESPN talks about this, they will probably bury Rodgers a little, Kornheiser will make jokes and laugh it off if it's talked on PTI. It may affect on him, he just doesn't show it, and of course most people agree with Rodgers.


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Neither Tony Kornheiser nor Dennis Miller belonged on "Monday Night Football". Even though he was funny on "Saturday Night Live's" news spoof "Weekend Update" back in the late '80s, Dennis and Dan Fouts (remember him?) weren't always on the same page when they worked with Al Michaels last decade. When ESPN replaced ABC Sports as the home of "MNF" in 2006, "Mr. Tony" looked very bored sitting next to Mike Tirico & Joe Theismann in the booth. You can't tell me for a second that Kornheiser was at all thrilled about the idiotic in-game interview during the 2nd quarter with guys like Charles Barkley, Jimmy Kimmel & Jim Belushi. All those idiotic interviews were nothing more than shameless plugs for Kimmel's latenight show, which is actually tape delayed due to a certain someone named Oprah in Chicago, and Belushi when he did "According to Jim" on ABC. They have since gotten rid of the interviews. Needless to say, the only reason why those two clowns were because ESPN and ABC wanted a Howard Cosell-like presence on the "MNF" broadcasts. Moment of silence for Howard please...Thank you.


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SHARK - what would your ideal MNF team be?


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SHARK wrote:
...Kimmel's latenight show, which is actually tape delayed due to a certain someone named Oprah in Chicago...[/i]


SHARK, who is this person named Oprah of whom you speak?


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mel junior wrote:
SHARK - what would your ideal MNF team be?

I'd have to think about that one for a while. I know that Marv Albert is cutting back, and won't be doing "MNF" on radio with Boomer Esiason on Westwood One anymore.


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hackwilson's ribbies wrote:
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...Kimmel's latenight show, which is actually tape delayed due to a certain someone named Oprah in Chicago...[/i]


SHARK, who is this person named Oprah of whom you speak?

You know perfectly well, and I can't stand her...


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Aaron Rodgers wrote:
He’s terrible… I don’t think he’s funny. I don’t think he’s insightful. I don’t think [he] knows anything about sports.



That's how you do it, right there. Make sure you are completely clear. There's no going back and claiming you were misquoted with that...

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SHARK wrote:
Neither Tony Kornheiser nor Dennis Miller belonged on "Monday Night Football". Even though he was funny on "Saturday Night Live's" news spoof "Weekend Update" back in the late '80s, Dennis and Dan Fouts (remember him?) weren't always on the same page when they worked with Al Michaels last decade. When ESPN replaced ABC Sports as the home of "MNF" in 2006, "Mr. Tony" looked very bored sitting next to Mike Tirico & Joe Theismann in the booth. You can't tell me for a second that Kornheiser was at all thrilled about the idiotic in-game interview during the 2nd quarter with guys like Charles Barkley, Jimmy Kimmel & Jim Belushi. All those idiotic interviews were nothing more than shameless plugs for Kimmel's latenight show, which is actually tape delayed due to a certain someone named Oprah in Chicago, and Belushi when he did "According to Jim" on ABC. They have since gotten rid of the interviews. Needless to say, the only reason why those two clowns were because ESPN and ABC wanted a Howard Cosell-like presence on the "MNF" broadcasts. Moment of silence for Howard please...Thank you.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:18 pm 
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SHARK wrote:
Neither Tony Kornheiser nor Dennis Miller belonged on "Monday Night Football". Even though he was funny on "Saturday Night Live's" news spoof "Weekend Update" back in the late '80s, Dennis and Dan Fouts (remember him?) weren't always on the same page when they worked with Al Michaels last decade. When ESPN replaced ABC Sports as the home of "MNF" in 2006, "Mr. Tony" looked very bored sitting next to Mike Tirico & Joe Theismann in the booth. You can't tell me for a second that Kornheiser was at all thrilled about the idiotic in-game interview during the 2nd quarter with guys like Charles Barkley, Jimmy Kimmel & Jim Belushi. All those idiotic interviews were nothing more than shameless plugs for Kimmel's latenight show, which is actually tape delayed due to a certain someone named Oprah in Chicago, and Belushi when he did "According to Jim" on ABC. They have since gotten rid of the interviews. Needless to say, the only reason why those two clowns were because ESPN and ABC wanted a Howard Cosell-like presence on the "MNF" broadcasts. Moment of silence for Howard please...Thank you.


Shark, you are right about Kornheiser being there as the Howard Cosell-like presence, but I would disagree about Tony not being thrilled about the interviews with peoplem, I would say he may have wanted them the most since he was use to it from Pardon the Interuption. Now Kimmel was on there once and after he made the booth a little fun, ESPN said no more to him. On Theisman, The reason I heard ESPN got rid of him was that Theisman wouldn't laugh at Kornheiser's jokes.

On who should do the games, the problem with ESPN having it, you have to sound very vanilla or do things you don't want to do, like the interviews they did have, those were just to other viewers besides the football fans. Like I put on Theisman, I know he was let go for others reasons I would say, but jeez a guy wants to talk football at a football game, let's fire him. For my picks and if you stick with any 3, I pick Brent Musberger to host, keep Ron Jaworski, and bring back Michael Irvin or go with ESPN person Keyshawn Johnson.


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I guess Aaron Rodgers just didn't go after Kornheiser at ESPN, and this is from the USA Today today,

But then, Rodgers also suggested that even former NFL players aren't exactly qualified to critique NFL quarterbacking: "You look at Marcellus Nas up there talking (on ESPN) about quarterback play. The guy was a defensive end for a few years in the league. He's not any good."

I completely agree with the statement on Marcellus Nas is an idiot, usually shows it on Sportsnation.


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SHARK - what would your ideal MNF team be?


Royle Stillman, Eric Nesterenko, and Ed Genson

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