First after we all commence dancing in the streets in our underwear to celebrate what do you guys prefer?

Sandberg
Trammel
Brenly

I vote for Trammel and give him a chance to keep it after this season depending on what happens.

IF they fire Lou, it's gonna be trammel. They're not going to wholesale fire this management team.

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Will Ohman player-manager.

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IMO, it has to be Trammel just to finish out the season. All they have to do is look at how Denis Savard crashed and burned as the Hawks coach to see what happens when you promote a legacy before he really is ready. If Sandberg is the next guy in, it is wise to let him stay in Iowa, because there is a real chance that more than a few of the guys there could be in Chicago next year.

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Longterm I want Brenly to be the manager, but I doubt that happens.

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Trammel wont have a chance in hell of keeping the job. Sandberg is a lock next year, especially with fan Boy now owning the team.

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The only reason that I do not want this is because selfishly I think the Cubs broadcasts would suffer. I still have nightmares of the Chip Carey Joe Carter era.

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I want Brenley as the GM & Ryno as the Manager.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

JOHN Schuerholtz for GM
KIRK Gibson for manager.

Ryno has paid his dues and deserves the job. It will likely be a rebuilding operation anyway. If only the Cubs would have decided to rebuild last year they could have gotten some value for some of the guys they are likely to trade away.

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He has certainly not paid his dues. He's been a minor league manager. No MLB coaching experience at all. Put him in as a bench coach or 3rd base coach (preferrably a bench coach) top an established tenured manager for 4 years and then he's "paid his dues".

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Also please tell me how "paying your dues" entitles you to any job let alone a manager of a major league team?

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I was about to post the same thing, but for a different reason...

...who gives a damn if someone has "paid their dues?" If you think they are the best person for the job, hire them...if not, don't...don't let silly shit like "paid dues" get in the way of such an important decision...

They wanted him to manage before giving him a job. He has done that at every level and had success. The Cubs will likely field a young team next year and IMO Ryno would be perfect for the job. They could put him on the bench a few years ago if they cared about that. It's a good thing he wasn't near the Rothschild or the 60 win man from Detroit.

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I guess we just have different definitions of paying dues...

...to me it implies that he is only getting the job because he's gone through the motions and been there for so long that now is "his time", so to speak...when someone is hired because they paid their dues, I'm not expecting too much out of them...now, if someone is hired because they were the best person for the job, now we are talking...

You can't be serious about the comparison?

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He wanted to be a big league manager and they told him what he needed to do. With an opening coming next season and a likely rebuilding plan it is the perfect time IMO to give him the job. Obviously you put a experienced bench coach around him.

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Seriously, I just want SOMEBODY fired. Do something. I don't care what at this point. I'm just getting angry. 5 fucking hits. Good thing we have the Babe Ruth of hitting coaches. Seriously, get rid of Lou or at least Rudy. Something here. Fuck this team.

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Team Cutler.

I did not need than mental image...

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Just chillin' like Garret Quillin.

This is my concern Sandeberg wasn't exactly media savvy as a player and mostly kept to himself and that wouldn't play as the manager of the Cubs. As for his managerial style and skills I have no idea. I have not seen one Iowa Cubs game so I do not know at all what to expect from him. I do not think some seasoning on a MLB bench would be the worst thing for him. If they do throw him in the fire though I just hope that they get rid of Larry Rothschild and the Larry Horse he rode in on.

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It's not as big of a difference as managing McDonalds for $10 an hour and being in a leadership position at a fortune 500 company. Ryno played in the league so I'm guessing he knows what it takes to be a big league player and how they should conduct themselves. He just had to learn the nuances of managing compared to playing. I believe he has done that. There are many AAA players that played in the big leagues too. With a good bench coach it shouldn't be a tough adjustment. IMO he was better served managing than being a 1st base coach.

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He has the fire and the passion. He has been known to go Lou on minor league umps.

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Sandberg is a different person now than when he played. He is much more media savvy now. Look up Ryno's hall of fame speech on You tube. I have seen him manage a few games in the minors & I didn't notice any glaring mistakes. The Managerial skills needed to manage a game are the same at any level. What is different is the millionaire players. He has won at every level in the minors. Believe it or not he can be tough on his players, but they love him. I hope Ryno is the Cubs Manager when they win the World Series.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

So in essence you basically said the skills are the same but yet they are different

By that statement the skills are not the same.

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There's no reason whatsoever to celebrate once Piniella is done as the manager. Think hard, Steph, and you might be able to figure out why. Or not.

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Bruce Kimm paid his dues as a minor league manager. For what that's worth (little)

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Middle Aged Crazy, like Uncle Terry

Managing a bunch of guys who are trying like hell to get onto a MLB roster is much fucking different from managing a bunch of entitled whiny ballplayers who have cushy 5 year contracts paying tens of millions of dollars (up to the age of retirement) whether they play well or not.

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Ryno may well be the one who has no problem telling them to go take a seat on the end of the bench while this other young fellow over here plays.
Lou won't even move Ramirez or Lee out of the middle of the order.

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Sounds like the last few managers we've had. Where is Don Zimmer when you need him?

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Wow - Kirk Gibson was named Arizona's manager.