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Can Richard Jefferson play SG?


No, he'll probably end up with the Clippers if he can't convince NY/NJ to take him.


No worries. Vinny will get the most out of him.

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Wouldn't you have to give up more than that for him? If not, I'd definitely make that deal.

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Chicago Bulls sign Kyle Korver to 3-year, $15 million deal‎

The Chicago Bulls have reached an agreement to sign sharpshooting free agent Kyle Korver, according to sources close to the situation.

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Sources told ESPN.com that Korver, formerly of the Utah Jazz, will sign a three-year deal worth an estimated $15 million.

Korver will become the Bulls' second significant free-agent acquisition, along with former Utah teammate Carlos Boozer, to sign with Chicago after the Bulls' unsuccessful pursuit of LeBron James, Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade.

"Kyle can shoot the heck out of the ball," Boozer, speaking on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000 on Thursday, said of his former teammate with the Jazz. "He's 6-7, 6-8 with real size and can shoot the ball. In practice he doesn't miss many shots, and then in games when he's on, he's as good as anybody."

Korver was the NBA's foremost 3-point shooter last season at 53.6 percent, averaging 7.2 points for the Jazz in 52 games.

He fills a huge need for Chicago, which has lacked a floor-stretching complement to Derrick Rose. The 6-7 swingman also arrives with the experience of playing off Boozer's presence in the low post.


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Wouldn't you have to give up more than that for him? If not, I'd definitely make that deal.


I think they are looking to save money so you would probably have to give up Gibson and some picks to go along with a trade exception.

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Chicago Bulls sign Kyle Korver to 3-year, $15 million deal‎

The Chicago Bulls have reached an agreement to sign sharpshooting free agent Kyle Korver, according to sources close to the situation.

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Sources told ESPN.com that Korver, formerly of the Utah Jazz, will sign a three-year deal worth an estimated $15 million.

Korver will become the Bulls' second significant free-agent acquisition, along with former Utah teammate Carlos Boozer, to sign with Chicago after the Bulls' unsuccessful pursuit of LeBron James, Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade.

"Kyle can shoot the heck out of the ball," Boozer, speaking on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000 on Thursday, said of his former teammate with the Jazz. "He's 6-7, 6-8 with real size and can shoot the ball. In practice he doesn't miss many shots, and then in games when he's on, he's as good as anybody."

Korver was the NBA's foremost 3-point shooter last season at 53.6 percent, averaging 7.2 points for the Jazz in 52 games.

He fills a huge need for Chicago, which has lacked a floor-stretching complement to Derrick Rose. The 6-7 swingman also arrives with the experience of playing off Boozer's presence in the low post.


Good signing. They need a couple more like him.

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No.

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Bulls just signed JJ Reddick to a 3/$19M offer sheet. Orlando has 7 days to match. They front loaded it to make it more difficult.
I like the deal, especially with Korver. I hope Orlando doesn't match.

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He's basically a poor man's Ron Artest.


I agree with you and Bagels on Barnes, and actually I'm not sure Artest is even still better than Barnes at this point.

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Tony Allen would be a good fifth guard. Can defend. They still need a back up point though.

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Joe Dumars is offering Rip Hamilton and/or Tayshaun Prince up as "consolation prizes" to teams with cap space to spend. However, he wants current impact players back as part of the trade. Don't think the Bulls have anything he'd be interested in. Unless Dumars is the new Isaiah Thomas of NBA GMs and can be tricked into taking Deng off the Bulls hands.


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Joe Dumars is offering Rip Hamilton and/or Tayshaun Prince up as "consolation prizes" to teams with cap space to spend. However, he wants current impact players back as part of the trade. Don't think the Bulls have anything he'd be interested in. Unless Dumars is the new Isaiah Thomas of NBA GMs and can be tricked into taking Deng off the Bulls hands.


Well pretty much every decision he has made in the past 5 years hasnt worked out, so your last sentence is certainly plausible.

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Well pretty much every decision he has made in the past 5 years hasnt worked out, so your last sentence is certainly plausible.


Yeah, the 2003 draft choice was deathly bad

1. Lebron James
2. Darko Miličić (Dumars for the Pistons)
3. Carmelo Anthony
4. Chris Bosh
5. Dwyane Wade
6. Chris Kaman
7. Kirk Hinrich

If the Pistons take any one of the next 4 guys, chances are they run off 3 or 4 championships in a row (until Boston gets KG et al).

After missing repeating as champs in 2005 by a Robert Horry shot, you would've thought the Pistons would've gone out and gotten a Paxson/Kerr/Horry/Derrick Fisher type player--someone who can hit big shots late in games in the post-season. Sure, Billups was kind of that guy and Sheed was as well (cept he was often on the bench due to foul trouble late in games). But they were starters on wobbly legs late in games in late May. Having a guy who could've come off the bench relatively fresh and drained 3's late in the game would've given that Pistons team a couple more rings, or at least put them in the Finals a few more times.


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Yeah I think it was Simmons who said that top 5 was like reaching into a brown paper bag that contained two $100 million checks, 2 $10 million checks, and a $10 check. They got the $10 check. I cant ever understand why they wouldnt have take Carmelo considering the team they already had. It was very safe to assume that his floor was a borderline all star that could score alot ala glenn robinson.

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NearWessSideHussra wrote:
Joe Dumars is offering Rip Hamilton and/or Tayshaun Prince up as "consolation prizes" to teams with cap space to spend. However, he wants current impact players back as part of the trade. Don't think the Bulls have anything he'd be interested in. Unless Dumars is the new Isaiah Thomas of NBA GMs and can be tricked into taking Deng off the Bulls hands.

I'd rather have Deng than either one of them. I'm not sure why there seems to be so much disdain for Deng. Yeah he's overpaid (but not horribly) and he didn't progress to elite status as many had predicted but he still an above averag NBA player. :?

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NearWessSideHussra wrote:
Joe Dumars is offering Rip Hamilton and/or Tayshaun Prince up as "consolation prizes" to teams with cap space to spend. However, he wants current impact players back as part of the trade. Don't think the Bulls have anything he'd be interested in. Unless Dumars is the new Isaiah Thomas of NBA GMs and can be tricked into taking Deng off the Bulls hands.


Trading Deng for 2 guys that are 30 and coming off injuries makes a lot of sense. Hamilton has 3 years and $38M left on his deal. He will be 35 when his contract expires. Dumars would be happier than a burrito with a jaw full of dicks if the Bulls traded Deng for those guys. Just in case you're wondering Deng has been better than Prince and equal or better than Hamilton numbers wise the base 3 or 4 seasons.

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Tony Allen would be a good fifth guard. Can defend. They still need a back up point though.


He would get killed. He's not coming to Chicago.

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Yeah I think it was Simmons who said that top 5 was like reaching into a brown paper bag that contained two $100 million checks, 2 $10 million checks, and a $10 check. They got the $10 check. I cant ever understand why they wouldnt have take Carmelo considering the team they already had. It was very safe to assume that his floor was a borderline all star that could score alot ala glenn robinson.


Because of Prince. He felt he could get a project that needed a couple of years and be fine. Only issue is his project cares about basketball 3 or 4 times a year.

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Ok, where's those NBA guys like Hova or FavreFan or Bagels, Bucket, somebody help me out!

1. How much cash do the Bulls have left to spend? I know that question depends heavily on what happens with Reddick at this point.

2. Can a guy like Morrow sign two offer sheets at once? Or could the Bulls offer him a sheet even after he has signed the one with the Nets?

3. What sort of exceptions are available to the Bulls? Mid-level, Veterans minimum etc.......?

I don't like any of the free agents who are left......though I wouldn't mind seeing the Bulls making a very minimum investment in Ronnie Brewer, Rasual Butler, Marquis Daniels or James Singleton.

And then there's 3 guys I'd like to see targeted, though I have no idea what it would take to get them.
Shane Battier has been rumored to be available, and I think he would be a terrific bench addition. He's going into the last year of his contract. He can spread the defense, he can certainly play defense, and would provide a positive veteran presence. He'll make a little over $7 million next year.
Deandre Jordan is entering the last year of his contract, and though I don't know why they'd move him, it is the Clippers after all. He would be nice insurance to backing up Noah. While I love Noah, I don't love his foot problems. Jordan will make less than $1 million next year.
And then there's Nick Young. Maybe we could hit up our recent trading partner yet again. Young makes $2-3 million the next couple of years, can spread defenses, and would be a 6th man candidate.

I don't love any of these 7 guys. If I had a favorite out of the seven, it would be Jordan. But I'm just trying to look at guys who may be somewhat realistic, and very cheap in most cases, to get.


1. About $13M if Orlando matches their offer.
2. Once he signs an offer sheet no other team could sign him but the Warriors.
3. Bulls don't have any exceptions left because they started free agency under the cap. (I was wrong Mel Junior)

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Yeah I think it was Simmons who said that top 5 was like reaching into a brown paper bag that contained two $100 million checks, 2 $10 million checks, and a $10 check. They got the $10 check. I cant ever understand why they wouldnt have take Carmelo considering the team they already had. It was very safe to assume that his floor was a borderline all star that could score alot ala glenn robinson.


Because of Prince. He felt he could get a project that needed a couple of years and be fine. Only issue is his project cares about basketball 3 or 4 times a year.


I understand that but it's absurd logic, and Dumars should rightly be called out. It would've been like passing on Rose with the justification that you had Kirk Hinrich.

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I agree. I was just giving you the why.

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Josh Howard? I don't know. This team really needs a big man and PG to come off the bench, and the Bulls have pretty much used up most of their available cash if the Reddick deal goes through. What do you guys think?

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Swingman Josh Howard(notes) spent time with the Washington Wizards and Dallas Mavericks last season and now he's got two other teams battling over his services.

Yahoo! Sports' Marc J. Spears reports that the Boston Celtics and Chicago Bulls both have "serious interest" in the 30-year-old who averaged 12.7 points, 3.6 rebounds, and 1.4 assists per game last season.

The Bulls have financial room to sign Howard (depending on what happens with its offer to J.J. Redick(notes)), but the Celtics would need to do a sign-and-trade to get him, Spears notes, because Jermaine O'Neal(notes) has already taken the team's mid-level exception.

The Wizards, Spears reports, also have some interest in bringing back Howard.

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I like Howard if he is interested and can stay healthy. Those are 2 big ifs. Also it gives the Bulls flexibility to trade Deng in the future. He put his house up for sale too.

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The Magic have signed Q Richardson to a multi year supposedly, so this leads me to believe they will not match the Bulls offer for Redick.


It could mean that they aren't going to resign Matt Barnes as well.


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I agree. I hope the Bulls are looking at him.

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The Magic have signed Q Richardson to a multi year supposedly, so this leads me to believe they will not match the Bulls offer for Redick.


It could mean that they aren't going to resign Matt Barnes as well.


Which would make them extremely dumb. Richardson cant play at all anymore really. Barnes is twice the player he is. I hope thats true though.

I like Howard. Unfortunately he often plays like a guy thats high. When motivated he's a good defender and explosive swingman. He could really be great for the C's or Bulls if he wants to win a title. I dont think he gives a shit about winning though.

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The Magic have signed Q Richardson to a multi year supposedly, so this leads me to believe they will not match the Bulls offer for Redick.


It could mean that they aren't going to resign Matt Barnes as well.


Which would make them extremely dumb. Richardson cant play at all anymore really. Barnes is twice the player he is. I hope thats true though.

I like Howard. Unfortunately he often plays like a guy thats high. When motivated he's a good defender and explosive swingman. He could really be great for the C's or Bulls if he wants to win a title. I dont think he gives a shit about winning though.


I kinda get that feeling about him too. Maybe he wants to play for another contract though. Give him a 2 year deal with a player option.

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The Magic have signed Q Richardson to a multi year supposedly, so this leads me to believe they will not match the Bulls offer for Redick.


It could mean that they aren't going to resign Matt Barnes as well.


Which would make them extremely dumb. Richardson cant play at all anymore really. Barnes is twice the player he is. I hope thats true though.

I like Howard. Unfortunately he often plays like a guy thats high. When motivated he's a good defender and explosive swingman. He could really be great for the C's or Bulls if he wants to win a title. I dont think he gives a shit about winning though.


Agreed. Richardson doesn't do much for me either.


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Josh Howard? I don't know. This team really needs a big man and PG to come off the bench, and the Bulls have pretty much used up most of their available cash if the Reddick deal goes through. What do you guys think?

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Swingman Josh Howard(notes) spent time with the Washington Wizards and Dallas Mavericks last season and now he's got two other teams battling over his services.

Yahoo! Sports' Marc J. Spears reports that the Boston Celtics and Chicago Bulls both have "serious interest" in the 30-year-old who averaged 12.7 points, 3.6 rebounds, and 1.4 assists per game last season.

The Bulls have financial room to sign Howard (depending on what happens with its offer to J.J. Redick(notes)), but the Celtics would need to do a sign-and-trade to get him, Spears notes, because Jermaine O'Neal(notes) has already taken the team's mid-level exception.

The Wizards, Spears reports, also have some interest in bringing back Howard.



I think Brad Miller will be back and isn't that foreign player a big man?

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