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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:46 am

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Free Ajent wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Would it have been less of a thug league if LeBron had come to Chicago?

EXACTLY!

If Lebron came to Chi than we would all be doing cartwheels like Miami is right now.

Not all of us.

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JBills

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:34 pm

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Btw I just want to know what "Thug" means to everyone? To me it's a coded and loaded word. These dudes aint real thugs so let's take a step back from that word. When you make millions of dollars playing professional sports you are the furthest thing from a "Thug".

And good riddance Steve Sarley.

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Free Ajent

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:44 pm

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JBills wrote:

When you make millions of dollars playing professional sports you are the furthest thing from a "Thug".

i'd rethink that if i were you

just because you make money don't mean that it changes who you were/are as a person. Probably makes it worse

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Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:44 pm

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Free Ajent wrote:

JBills wrote:

When you make millions of dollars playing professional sports you are the furthest thing from a "Thug".

i'd rethink that if i were you

just because you make money don't mean that it changes who you were/are as a person. Probably makes it worse

indeed

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:47 pm

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Free Ajent wrote:

JBills wrote:

When you make millions of dollars playing professional sports you are the furthest thing from a "Thug".

i'd rethink that if i were you

just because you make money don't mean that it changes who you were/are as a person. Probably makes it worse

Agreed. But I agree with his point that it's often a coded word by the ES's and Scorehead's of the world.

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JBills

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:03 pm

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Free Ajent wrote:

JBills wrote:

When you make millions of dollars playing professional sports you are the furthest thing from a "Thug".

i'd rethink that if i were you

just because you make money don't mean that it changes who you were/are as a person. Probably makes it worse

Right and ure telling me these dudes were running the streets like Tony Montana in their youth while dropping 50 points in a high school basketball game, or scoring 5 touchdowns on prom night? These dudes are out shooting cops at night instead of thinking about a full ride to a D1 school? C'mon man. None of these grown men are, or ever have been "Thugs". They dont even approach gangster status. Maybe they have a relative, or a friend who qualifies, but if you make millions of dollars why would you waste ure time with some street shit?

Granted their are examples like Bam Morris, Pacman, or even Vick, but I promise those dudes are the outliers. ESPN likes to focus on those stories for very questionable motives. When ESPN makes those situations seem like the norm, that's when all this passive racist meatballery snowballs (Dont believe me? Go look at an ESPN article comments section sometime). This is where we're at with sports. Drowning in Meatballs.

Im sure most pro athletes, like any one of us on this board, would prefer the top notch pussy they receive over going out and committing a drive by.

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Free Ajent

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:11 pm

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JBills wrote:

Free Ajent wrote:

JBills wrote:

When you make millions of dollars playing professional sports you are the furthest thing from a "Thug".

i'd rethink that if i were you

just because you make money don't mean that it changes who you were/are as a person. Probably makes it worse

I agree they aren't gang bangin on the corner if that's what you're trying to say. Even thou guys like Vick and pac-man aren't the norm you still are going to have guys that have that thug mentality no matter how much $ you give them.

I get what you are saying overall thou

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JBills

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:14 pm

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Finally, we agree on something Free Ajent. Sort of.

Still waiting on that explanation of a thug from the meatball side of the board...

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"He sounds like a man that was never challenged to be a man."
"He gives a lot of opinions without probably having many life experiences."

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HOVA

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:17 pm

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I agree about the mentality. You can take a thug out the Hood but you can't take the thug out of the individual. Even if they have learned to suppress it something can bring it back out.

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JBills

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:25 pm

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Yeah but even the most susceptible mindsets are coddled and sheltered from a lot of shit once a coach/scout/parent realizes the potential of the athlete. Granted, mom cant be everywhere all the time, so experimentation will happen.

There arent a lot of Willie Williams' even sniffing D1 schools nowadays.

So if that Bowman guy for the Vikings rapes a stripper during the "Love Boat" fiasco does that make him a thug? Just curious what the prerequisites are?

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My wife said 2 things about Bernstein today:

"He sounds like a man that was never challenged to be a man."
"He gives a lot of opinions without probably having many life experiences."

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SteveSarley

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:11 pm

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Carrie wrote:

SteveSarley wrote:

The owners are begging these guys to take their multi-millions to come
and play for their teams.
Then, before the contracts are up, they'll be trying to trade these guys
to clear up salary cap space.
This is the ultimate in lunacy.

Alfonso Soriano
Milton Bradley
Kosuke Fukudome
Todd Hundley
Jason Marquis
Latroy Hawkins
Aaron Miles

Many feel that the Soriano, Bradley and Fukudome contracts are amongst the worst signings in the last decade, if not of all time.
So why aren't you "done" with The Cub?

You are right about those contracts and yes, I am close to being done with them too.

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SteveSarley

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:14 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

SteveSarley wrote:

I think I'm done with pro basketball.
It's a thug league with more a-holes in uniform than any other sport.
The bulls get jobbed again and will be looking to dump Boozer's contract in four years.
Our big signing, Boozer, is a jerk who reneged on a handshake deal with Cleveland a few years ago.
The LeBron spectacle absolutely made me sick.
The teams walk through the regular season and then step it up in the playoffs.
All of this has virtually turned me off so much, I can't see watching anymore.
It's tough being a Chicago fan.
Thank goodness for the Hawks and then they have to go and start dumping guys we all fell in love with.
The team I live and die with, the Cubs, are a total joke.
I hate the Sox, but am starting to hope thay can make a run to the playoffs to bring the city some more pride.
So, the first sport and team I am giving up on is pro basketball and the Bulls.
Does anyone else feel like I do?

Good riddance, the league does not need your misguided ignorant viewership.

Having a son on active Army duty, I have the utmost respect and appreciation for you, FF.
That said, thanks for speaking for the entire NBA.

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SteveSarley

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:16 pm

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Carrie wrote:

I feel confident in saying, that if you are black, and Steve Sarley & NSJ invite you to go along on their next fishing trip, you might just want to go ahead and turn down that invitation.
At the very least, bring a life preserver.

Miss, mister, whatever you really are, I don't have a racist bone in my body and I am horribly offended to be referred to like that.

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SteveSarley

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:23 pm

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JBills wrote:

First off, thanks for assuming that you can speak for the NBAin wishing me good riddance.
Second, "coded and loaded?"
If you are saying what I think you are saying, you mean that "thug" means "black?"
That is the inference I am getting from where this thread has turned.
I never considered the connection, to be totally honest.
A few years ago, I spent an hour talking to Norm Van Lier and he told me that
the NBA was a "thug league."
He explained his opinion in detail and I understood what he told me.
I guess that makes Stormin' Norman a racist who uses coded and loaded terms.
Damn! I never would have thought that of Norm!

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Mr. Reason

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:31 pm

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SteveSarley wrote:

JBills wrote:

Don't try to figure it out SS. Just ignore it, maybe it will go away. It longs for anyone's attention.

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HOVA

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:36 pm

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Nowadays when "thug" is used it is USUALLY describing a black guy. Let's get back to talking hoops. I could post in the politics section if I wanted to engage in a racial debate.

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:

In the grand SCEME (not scope, Dumbass) pf things

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Mr. Reason

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:44 pm

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HOVA wrote:

Nowadays when "thug" is used it is USUALLY describing a black guy. Let's get back to talking hoops. I could post in the politics section if I wanted to engage in a racial debate.

You never limited race to politics, so why start now?

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HOVA

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:51 pm

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Mr. Reason wrote:

HOVA wrote:

Nowadays when "thug" is used it is USUALLY describing a black guy. Let's get back to talking hoops. I could post in the politics section if I wanted to engage in a racial debate.

You never limited race to politics, so why start now?

Why not?

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:

In the grand SCEME (not scope, Dumbass) pf things

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SteveSarley

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:54 pm

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Carrie wrote:

And tell your daughter to give the little brother back his fish!!

Don't ever allude to anyone in my family, kidding or not. Off limits, okay?

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Bucky Chris

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:10 pm

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SteveSarley wrote:

About the whole reneging (racist) thing...

Boozer maintains he never agreed to sign. And the man who worked the deal, Jim Paxson, is currently a member of the Bulls organization. He fully supported the signing of Boozer. So if he can get over it, you can too.

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SteveSarley

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:18 pm

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Carrie wrote:

SteveSarley wrote:

Carrie wrote:

Miss, mister, whatever you really are, I don't have a racist bone in my body and I am horribly offended to be referred to like that.

Sarley, I don't really give a flying fuck if you're offended.

What do you think you were doing when you said this:

Quote:

It's a thug league with more a-holes in uniform than any other sport.

Was that not offensive?

How 'bout this:

Quote:

Boozer, is a jerk

Offensive?

And what about this:

Quote:

It's a ghetto league with more blacks in uniform than any other sport.

Dude, you offended an entire league. Hell, an entire race.

And your post, it just kills me.

Quote:

It's tough being a Chicago fan

Suck it up Sarley. You're embarrassing!!

The Hawks just won a title like yesterday. The Sox won a title a few years ago, and will do so again this year. The Bulls have 6 titles that even I remember. The Bears have a title and perhaps the greatest team of all time and even I remember that.
If I remember all of that, your old ass certainly does.
But if you were from Cleveland, you wouldn't remember a single title in your entire lifetime. And you wouldn't even have a damn hockey team! And now you just lost the KING. And not Elvis dammit - Bron Bron!!!
Try being a Cleveland fan Steven.
Shit.

I stand by my thug comment and have explained it elsewhere in this thread.

Boozer was a jerk when he left Cleveland. That said, I really like what he is saying now that he has signed with the Bulls. He seems like a quality guy and I hope he has a lot of success with the Bulls.

"It's a ghetto league with more blacks in uniform than any other sport." How dare you manipulate the quote function to attribute that bullshit to me? That is a despicable thing that you did. I would expect an apology.

I loved the Hawks winning the Cup but hate to see guys like Buff and Versteeg have to go. It makes the Championship a little bittersweet to me. Yes, the Sox won and I am hoping that they can do it again. The 85 Bears? That was 25 years ago! What does Ditka say about dwelling in the past?

I don't live in Cleveland. Will never live in Cleveland. Don't give a shit about Cleveland. So what the hell is your point? Try making a little sense.

Have a wonderful evening!

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SteveSarley

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:20 pm

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Carrie wrote:

I bet you hate blackfish don't ya Sarley? Clearly the thug of the lake:

Shit like this will allow you to be taken seriously, I am quite sure.

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HOVA

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:21 pm

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SteveSarley wrote:

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:

In the grand SCEME (not scope, Dumbass) pf things

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Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:26 pm

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RIP Chauncey.

Despicable quote function abuse!
:lol:

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:43 pm

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SteveSarley wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

SteveSarley wrote:

Good riddance, the league does not need your misguided ignorant viewership.

Having a son on active Army duty, I have the utmost respect and appreciation for you, FF.
That said, thanks for speaking for the entire NBA.

The league is as strong as it's been in a long time ratings wise. Thats what I meant by that. And no offense but you are ignorant if you really think the NBA has more criminals than other leagues. It's not an insult to say you are ignorant, all it means is uninformed. And you have showed yourself to be just that in this thread.

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Jalapenos and More

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:45 pm

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SteveSarley wrote:

I don't live in Cleveland. Will never live in Cleveland. Don't give a shit about Cleveland. So what the hell is your point? Try making a little sense. Have a wonderful evening!

Dammit, I can't start liking Sarley! :lol:

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SteveSarley

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:50 pm

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Jalapenos and More wrote:

SteveSarley wrote:

I don't live in Cleveland. Will never live in Cleveland. Don't give a shit about Cleveland. So what the hell is your point? Try making a little sense. Have a wonderful evening!

Dammit, I can't start liking Sarley! :lol:

Sure you can! I'm so damned lovable!

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SteveSarley

Post subject: Re: I think I'm done

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:58 pm

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Carrie wrote:

Jalapenos and More wrote:

SteveSarley wrote:

I don't live in Cleveland. Will never live in Cleveland. Don't give a shit about Cleveland. So what the hell is your point? Try making a little sense. Have a wonderful evening!

Dammit, I can't start liking Sarley! :lol:

Don't worry, I doubt you'll have to.

By the way Sarley, the quote was right there for you, along with an explanation.
You say it's tough being a Chicago Sports fan. Now maybe you meant to say it's tough being a Cubs fan, but you didn't. So I went on to say.....a n d I ' m t y p i n g r e a l l y s l o w l y 'cause you seem a bit, well, stupid.....but I went on to point out that if it's tough being a Chicago fan, how do you think the people in Cleveland feel. Seattle maybe? Utah? Washington? How'd ya like to be an Iowa?

My God Sarley, the Hawks just won it like 5 minutes ago. You have got to get a grip.

Nitey, nite, Sweetie!

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Scorehead

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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:18 pm

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I wish all of you guys with mults would have the balls to post under your real name. When many of you have something that you think may be controversial, you use the mult to post it.
Don't be a pussy. Have the guts to post under your normal screen name.

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Will do John

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