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I love reading Mariotti, he is by far the funniest columnist I've ever heard, whether I agree with his stuff or not

some of his coined words I've incorporated into my own vocabulary:

McFail
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Big Bum, Big Benched

I dont blame him for leaving the Sun-Times, as he is too honest to be there, but I kind of miss his daily bashing of the Cubs...I can only imagine the poetry he woulda come up with this year for the Cubs...from bashing Hendry, Lou, Zambrano, etc...

in case u didnt know and are interested, he is a writer for AOL sports/fanhouse now

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Mariotti rocks
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I'm assuming you like Around the Horn too.

Mariotti was just another crappy columnist at the Sun Times, and he was one of the reasons I stopped reading columnists in newspapers. Well, him along with Rozcrest, Dick Telander, and Phil Rogers.

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I love reading Mariotti, he is by far the funniest columnist I've ever heard, whether I agree with his stuff or not

some of his coined words I've incorporated into my own vocabulary:

McFail
Ragdoll Riggs
You-Know-Who
Big Bum, Big Benched

I dont blame him for leaving the Sun-Times, as he is too honest to be there, but I kind of miss his daily bashing of the Cubs...I can only imagine the poetry he woulda come up with this year for the Cubs...from bashing Hendry, Lou, Zambrano, etc...
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That is TOTAL BS!

in case u didnt know and are interested, he is a writer for AOL sports/fanhouse now




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That is TOTAL BS!


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 Post subject: Re: Jay Mariotti rocks
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in case u didnt know and are interested, he is a writer for AOL sports/fanhouse now


:lol: Jay's really coming up in the world these days.

He's a whiny, wannabe morally superior douchebag. He has some writing talent but he doesnt have a funny bone in his body and his nicknames are worse than Chris Bermans.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Mariotti rocks
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Wasn't it David Wells that started referring to him as Kotex Boy during the ill fated David Wells Show on MJH back in 01?

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Mariotti rocks
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Jay had the best column in town. He tells it like he sees it and thats what I like about him. I can see why so many people hate him but anyone who says hes no good as a columnist doesn't know what they're talking about

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Wasn't it David Wells that started referring to him as Kotex Boy during the ill fated David Wells Show on MJH back in 01?


Pretty sure Wells came up with that nickname on the Lou and Huge show.


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sjboyd0137 wrote:
Wasn't it David Wells that started referring to him as Kotex Boy during the ill fated David Wells Show on MJH back in 01?


Pretty sure Wells came up with that nickname on the Lou and Huge show.


I always thought it was MJH, after Mariotti called Thomas out for blowing out his elbow playing 1st without even asking. And there was a whole thing about him not showing up in the locker room blah blah blah.

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I bet you like Telander too.

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no actually, i dont like Telander at all...i dont hate him, but i dont really get him...he is not funny and writes like a college paper columnist

and I dont like Around the Horn at all either...for some reason, Mariotti is ordinary on TV, it doesnt seem like the same guy as he is in print, as far as his humor and his way with words, etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Mariotti rocks
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Jay had the best column in town. He tells it like he sees it and thats what I like about him. I can see why so many people hate him but anyone who says hes no good as a columnist doesn't know what they're talking about


Mariotti Column Headline two weeks ago: LeBron Should Just Eat His Ego, Join Miami Superteam

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James is being dragged through hell. It's certainly fair to wonder if LeBron ever will receive his due in history, even if he wins championships, after choosing to join fellow superstars in Miami rather than fight the good fight in Cleveland.


He is so full of shit and would contradict his self constantly when he was in Chicago.

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Mariotti changing horses in mid stream? No WAY!! The White Sox cannot win the World Series. The White Sox will win the world series...YAY!!!

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the rush limbaugh of the sports world.

it's a shame so much talent has to be wasted on such a hack.


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the rush limbaugh of the sports world.

it's a shame so much talent has to be wasted on such a hack.

Jay has talent? Being a complete asshole is talent? I have taken a shit with more substance.


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sjboyd0137 wrote:
Wasn't it David Wells that started referring to him as Kotex Boy during the ill fated David Wells Show on MJH back in 01?


Pretty sure Wells came up with that nickname on the Lou and Huge show.


Didn't McMichael nickname Mariotti that?

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Douchebag goes from saying this is where Lebron needs to go to now this?

Miami Scheme Machine? NBA Should Probe Heat

Not to interrupt the Dance Dance Revolution on South Beach, of course. Or further aggravate the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who has the laugh-out-loud gall to say LeBron James -- still on track to be sport's next billionaire athlete -- is being treated like "a runaway slave.'' But consider this: What if James and Chris Bosh already had decided to join Dwyane Wade in Miami when the superstars still were playing meaningful games elsewhere?

Wouldn't that be a scandal of epic proportions?

What if the domino effect of signings actually was a three-way conspiracy hatched over months, if not years? What if LeBron was planning all along to bolt the Cleveland Cavaliers, as accused by jilted owner Dan Gilbert, allowing him to deliver less-than-maximum effort at times because he was, um, a dog in Heat? Wouldn't that be an integrity breach similar to Pete Rose's gambling crimes and the disgrace of the 1919 Black Sox? It's one thing for three close friends to gather on July 1, when their free agency kicks in and they no longer belong to other franchises, and devise a plan to triple-up on an unsuspecting NBA. It's quite another for them to talk as far back as four years ago about joining hands, to the point of agreeing in 2007 to the exact terms with their respective teams -- three years, opt-out clauses in 2010 -- and creating the contractual uniformity to make their dream possible.

"If (David) Stern truly cares about the honor and virtue of this league, he won't turn his head indifferently and prefer not to know."
In a sports world complex enough to give us all headaches, the union of James, Wade and Bosh came together too easily to think it just magically happened last week. Ever hear of Creative Artists Agency, one of Hollywood's powerhouse talent shops? What if I said Henry Thomas, agent for Wade and Bosh, joined CAA in July 2009 -- where a waiting Leon Rose, James' agent, already was on the staff? Considering how close the three players have been, from the night they entered the league together in the 2003 draft to playing on a U.S. international team in 2006 and then on the gold-medal Olympic Redeem Team two years ago, it would be naive to believe this hasn't been in the works for some time.

I can't overstate what would be so hideously wrong about such a secret arrangement, particularly amid Gilbert's claims that James "quit'' on the Cavs in Game 5 and three other games of the ill-fated Boston playoff series, as well as the concluding game of Cleveland's postseason failure against Orlando last year. When James is trying to break through to the NBA Finals, only to encounter frustration, would he believe it's OK to diminish his effort when Cleveland is in his rear-view mirror and Miami is set for at least six seasons of a flamboyant superteam?

A lot of misguided critics say there's nothing wrong with players colluding when owners do it all the time. The difference here: Fans spend valuable money, time and energy to watch players, believing they're committed to the franchise with which they're signed. If a superstar is going through the motions in a playoff game because he knows he's headed elsewhere, that's a form of consumer fraud.

One couldn't help but hear Bosh during the wild celebration the other night in Miami, when he said the triumvirate had discussed playing together for "months'' before amending it to "weeks,'' as though that makes anyone feel better. Wade chimed in as saying the groundwork for their convergence started "a long time ago.'' Before that, Wade said in late May that he and other top free agents would have a "summit,'' which drew no rebuke from commissioner David Stern. As details emerge about the wide scope of this marriage, Stern really should get involved.

Leave it to Mark Cuban, the rabble-rousing owner of the Dallas Mavericks, to keep a potentially destructive topic in the public eye. "I'm going to bring it up to the league that we really do have to re-evaluate the issue of player tampering,'' he said. "Who knows what will happen? But I have to suggest it to them because there has to be more definitive rules. It's not just the Cavs. It could be any team. It could be the Heat in a couple years. I'm not saying it's going to be easy. But there has to be a way to keep these guys away from each other."

Stern said the league will investigate any and all tampering claims. It's beyond me why Gilbert, after scorching the LeBron earth with his unforgettable rampage, wouldn't be the one to file it. He says he'd rather move on to another era in Cavs basketball, but my guess is he fears that opening a dirty box might expose some of his own skeletons. Why else would he let this issue drop? Gilbert is the one who crucified James for "a several-day narcissistic, self-promotional buildup culminating with a national TV special of the decision unlike anything ever 'witnessed' in the history of sports and probably the history of entertainment." Gilbert is the one who said James has been protected too long by too many people, telling the Associated Press that James is a coward who had to sign with a superteam to improve his chances of winning championships. "LeBron James needs to go to another team with two superstars already so he can win a championship," he said. "We will win a championship before (the Heat) do. It's not about him leaving. It's the disrespect. It's time for people to hold these athletes accountable for their actions. Is this the way you raise your children? I've been holding this all in for a long time." Gilbert also is the one who reduced the price of James' Fathead wall ornaments -- yes, Gilbert owns Fathead -- to $17.41.

That was the year Benedict Arnold, traitor for the ages, was born. If Gilbert is so calculatingly bitter, he should continue the process with a tampering claim.

Not that Stern would take serious disciplinary action if he did find wrongdoing. Remember when Michael Jordan was gambling with sleazebags, the kind of people who might make him vulnerable to extortion? Stern did not -- repeat, did not -- quietly suspend him in the months when Jordan played minor-league baseball. It's better for this image-obsessed commissioner to sweep such delicate matters under the rug, especially at a time when the NBA is so big that its offseason is thoroughly overshadowing the regular season of Major League Baseball.

Bosh claims he was the first to say yes to Heat president Pat Riley and owner Micky Arison, calling Wade to tell him so. To hear Wade, Bosh's commitment helped him off the fence, where he was waffling between Miami and his native Chicago. "When Chris told me that," he said, "it all just came together. And then it was up to LeBron." And oh so perfectly, James joined them two nights later. The timetable might have been believable until Heat executive Alonzo Mourning, who was centrally involved in the recruiting process, dropped a curious revelation last weekend.

"I knew this was going to evolve a while ago,'' Mourning said. "We knew a long time ago.''

Oh, really? How?

Yes, I know, filmmaker and director Spike Lee is another spurned Knicks fan who had hoped James might be coming to New York for more than Carmelo Anthony's weekend wedding. But in an interview with the New York Times, he used famous lines from movies and history to express his belief that a conspiracy went down in Miami.

He brought back Malcolm X: "We got hoodwinked. Led astray. Hornswoggled. We got bamboozled.''

He borrowed from Oliver Stone: "It was rigged.''

And, naturally: "This is nothing but a pure Corleone gangster move. It was laid out. This didn't happen by happenstance. They made people look like idiots. They had the thing planned out two years ago.''

There may be no way of proving a conspiracy happened. But there's also no way of proving it didn't happen. As we watch the superteam evolve, for better or worse, we're going to wonder when the concept was hatched and whether knowledge of it hurt LeBron's play -- consciously or subconsciously.

"We're all friends,'' James said. "We talk all the time, and we're here now and we're going to be here a long time.''

If Stern truly cares about the honor and virtue of his league, he won't turn his head indifferently and prefer not to know. Rather, he'll investigate with all his resources and might and make sure this is not, with apologies to Gloria Estefan, the Miami Scheme Machine.

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Jay has talent? Being a complete asshole is talent? I have taken a shit with more substance.


yes, many people with talent are complete assholes.


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