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I wonder why the Bulls weren't in the hunt for him, especially at those dollars. Could have used that defensive prescence.


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I wonder why the Bulls weren't in the hunt for him, especially at those dollars. Could have used that defensive prescence.


he wouldn't come here for those dollars.

he took a discount to play for the Champs.

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I don't think he would have been a good fit since they got Brewer.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:51 am 
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I don't think he would have been a good fit since they got Brewer.

Isn't Barnes a 3/4? I agree with FA on the discount, but the Bulls had some cap space to grab this guy. There had to be some reason they didn't go after him. Leave it to Phil in getting another gritty competitor on the roster.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:22 am 
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I don't think he would have been a good fit since they got Brewer.

Isn't Barnes a 3/4? I agree with FA on the discount, but the Bulls had some cap space to grab this guy. There had to be some reason they didn't go after him. Leave it to Phil in getting another gritty competitor on the roster.


He's a SF who, at times, has played some PF.


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Lakers, Spurs, and Thunder are my top 3 out west...

Barnes as the 7th guy off the bench is such a luxury for the defending champs. I dont think Miami can hang for 7 games when Artest, Barnes, and Kobe are locking people up.

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Damn, Theo Ratliff's expiring contract must have expired cus his 37 year old ass signed with the Lakers as well. DK what he brings tot he table, but hey, gotta fill out that roster.

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Lakers, Spurs, and Thunder are my top 3 out west...

Barnes as the 7th guy off the bench is such a luxury for the defending champs. I dont think Miami can hang for 7 games when Artest, Barnes, and Kobe are locking people up.


Wade and James will still put up 30 points a game in the playoffs, but perhaps they will have to shoot a lower percentage to get these points. Meanwhile, I don't see much Miami can do to stop Gasol/Bynum in the paint as well as other teams who can attack the basket.


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I don't think he would have been a good fit since they got Brewer.

Isn't Barnes a 3/4? I agree with FA on the discount, but the Bulls had some cap space to grab this guy. There had to be some reason they didn't go after him. Leave it to Phil in getting another gritty competitor on the roster.


He's a SF who, at times, has played some PF.


He's a 2/3. Luol Deng played PF at times last year when the Bulls went small too. No one would mistake either of them as PF.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:09 am 
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I think we can consider the free agency watch over. The last big-time available player is now off the market:

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The Golden State Warriors continue to add to their backcourt depth, reaching terms on a new deal Tuesday with free-agent guard Jannero Pargo.

Pargo's agent, Mark Bartelstein, told ESPN.com that his client will receive a two-year deal worth $2.4 million.

The Warriors have been looking for backups to starting point guard Stephen Curry since deciding last week not to match an offer sheet from the Chicago Bulls to guard C.J. Watson.

Watson wound up joining the Bulls in a sign-and-trade with Golden State, which has responded by adding Pargo and summer-league sensation Jeremy Lin -- who grew up a Warriors fan in Palo Alto, Calif. -- to its roster.

Pargo, who will be 31 before next season, played for Chicago last season after earlier stints with the Hornets, Bulls, Raptors and Lakers.

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Shaq to the Celtics for the veteran minimum. Gets to play behind Jermaine O'Neal and then Kendrick Perkins when Perkins is healthy again.

The Hawks were the other team interested in him, and he would have had more playing time there. Not really sure how Bagels would have reacted to the Hawks signing the corpse of Shaquille O'Neal tho.

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Shaq to the Celtics for the veteran minimum. Gets to play behind Jermaine O'Neal and then Kendrick Perkins when Perkins is healthy again.

The Hawks were the other team interested in him, and he would have had more playing time there. Not really sure how Bagels would have reacted to the Hawks signing the corpse of Shaquille O'Neal tho.


I might have been for it in theory....but I think in ATL his playing time issue would be tricky. I think it's pretty clear on the C's he's a 8th, 9th man or whatever. on the Hawks I think he'd expect to get more touches and time...while I feel he *could* be valuable on the Hawks as just a body to put on Dwight Howard (since he routinely abuses everyone on the Hawks) ...but I don't think that's enough value to justify bringing him in. I'd still want Horford playing 35-40 minutes a game. Unless they moved him to PF, Josh Smith to SF and benched Marvin Williams.

also, i think he's better than Jermaine O Neal....


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Yeah, I was just saying he's behind JO cus he's making the vet minimum and Jermaine O'neal is at something like 2.2 mil. Who knows tho. Im sure most nights the minutes wont be too drastically different.

While I like Horford mainly cus he's a Gator, and he doesnt take shit from anyone, the Hawks desperately need more down low.

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Yeah, I was just saying he's behind JO cus he's making the vet minimum and Jermaine O'neal is at something like 2.2 mil. Who knows tho. Im sure most nights the minutes wont be too drastically different.

While I like Horford mainly cus he's a Gator, and he doesnt take shit from anyone, the Hawks desperately need more down low.



I agree...he's kinda out of position at C

He's obviously a good rebounder and shot blocker but can't handle the bigger, tougher guys like Howard


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Wow. I didnt even know they were playing him at center. Maybe if they had a D'Antoni type system that could work, but Woodson wasnt exactly known for his offensive genius. That's rough.

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Wow. I didnt even know they were playing him at center. Maybe if they had a D'Antoni type system that could work, but Woodson wasnt exactly known for his offensive genius. That's rough.


Well yeah...they start Bibby, JJ, Marvin Williams, Josh Smith and Horford
Pachulia is undersized as a backup too


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T-Mac just signed with the Pistons...

Dont know what to think of this. Gordon back to the bench for good?

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T-Mac just signed with the Pistons...

Dont know what to think of this. Gordon back to the bench for good?


That could be the long-term plan (as in later this season), but Gordon is still earning $10 million a season, and McGrady could be a shell of himself once he starts playing. Plus, we don't know how he'll perform in back to back games, and the grind of the season in general.


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T-Mac just signed with the Pistons...

Dont know what to think of this. Gordon back to the bench for good?

I think the Pistons might even be worse next season.

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It amazes me that Tim Thomas keeps getting a roster spot year after year. How is this guy still in the NBA?

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Tim Thomas and the Dallas Mavericks will give it another go this season, as the power forward has agreed to a one-year deal with the team. He is expected to sign a contract Thursday upon passing a physical.

"We are excited to have him back," Mavs owner Mark Cuban said via e-mail.

Thomas, who was scheduled to arrive in Dallas on Wednesday evening, will make the veteran's minimum of $1.35 million next season, according to his agent, Bob Myers, He will fill a void at power forward behind Dirk Nowitzki.

"He can guard 4s, 5s and even some bigger 3s and spread the court and create space for the other guys," Cuban said. "Plus, he allows us to put four or five good 3-point shooters on the court at the same time and to go with a really big lineup if we need to."

The Mavs signed Thomas to a one-year deal last season as a free agent, but he played just 18 games before leaving the team to tend to his ailing wife. Thomas never disclosed her illness, but he is ready to return and wanted to play for the Mavs.

Dallas attempted to sign free agents Udonis Haslem and then Al Harrington last month to back up Nowitzki, but Haslem chose to take less money to re-sign with the Miami Heat and Harrington opted to play in Denver, where he signed with the Nuggets for five years and is likely to garner more minutes than in Dallas.

The 6-foot-10, 240-pound Thomas will enter his 14th NBA season, and the Mavs like his ability to stretch the floor and hit 3-pointers. He owns career averages of 11.5 points and 4.1 rebounds. He is a career 36.9-percent shooter from beyond the arc and hit 37.2 percent in his brief stint last season.

Thomas brings the Mavs' roster to 14, leaving them with one available spot.

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Hey I saw some teams had interest in Larry Hughes

It's unbelievable, really


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Hey I saw some teams had interest in Larry Hughes

It's unbelievable, really

There should be an All-NBA bad team. 5 Active players who have no business being on a NBA Roster.

1. Larry Hughes
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Is Jerome James still on a roster?


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Is Jerome James still on a roster?

He's a Free Ajent. He hasn't played in about 2 years, so I am not sure if you can count him.

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Is Jerome James still on a roster?

He's a Free Ajent. He hasn't played in about 2 years, so I am not sure if you can count him.


Wasn't he on the Bulls roster just last year though? or was that the year before?

Adonal Foyle is still around, I'm pretty sure. He'd be another good choice


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Wasn't he on the Bulls roster just last year though? or was that the year before?

He was on the Bulls roster the previous two years. He never suited up, and I don't think he ever set foot in the Berto Center. He was only there because of his ridiculous expiring contract. I can't really count him on my squad because his badness at basketball can't really be discussed since he wasn't even allowed to really be a member of the team.

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Isn't Barnes a 3/4? I agree with FA on the discount, but the Bulls had some cap space to grab this guy. There had to be some reason they didn't go after him. Leave it to Phil in getting another gritty competitor on the roster.


He's a SF who, at times, has played some PF.


He's a 2/3. Luol Deng played PF at times last year when the Bulls went small too. No one would mistake either of them as PF.


Similarly, noone would mistake either for a SG.

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To the surprise of countless NBA observers, Kwame Brown and Michael Jordan are together again.

A reunion that no one in the league expected after their well-chronicled difficulties in Washington will be taking place in Charlotte this season after Brown struck a one-year deal at the veteran minimum with the Jordan-owned Bobcats.

Mark Bartlestein, Brown's Chicago-based agent, told ESPN.com that the sides agreed to terms Monday after Brown played the past two seasons for the Detroit Pistons.

As a nine-year veteran, Brown will earn $1.3 million next season. The 6-foot-11, 270-pound Brown appeared in 48 games last season, averaging 3.3 points and 3.7 minutes in 13.8 minutes per game.

"He really wanted to take the challenge of playing again for Michael and playing for a top coach like Larry Brown," Bartelstein said. "I think it says a lot about Kwame that he wanted to go to Charlotte.

"The last few years have been difficult for him, but I think he's really excited to go there and try to create a new chapter in his career. He wants this opportunity to go back and prove something."

Brown became in 2001 the first high schooler in league history to be drafted No. 1 overall when Jordan, as president of basketball operations for the Washington Wizards, used his first draft pick as an executive on the Georgia teenager.

But the gamble worked out disastrously for both, with Brown chafing under the pressure of not only being drafted by Jordan but playing alongside him as a teammate when Jordan unretired and began his final comeback as a player shortly before Brown's rookie season.

With the drafting of Brown cited often as the prime misstep of what is generally regarded as an unsuccessful front-office tenure for Jordan, then-Wizards owner Abe Pollin abruptly cut ties with the future Hall of Famer after the 2002-03 season when Jordan hoped to return to his personnel role.

"Michael was very much a part of this," Bartelstein said of Jordan. "He wanted this to happen and he wanted to give Kwame another opportunity.

"There's been so much written about the fact that this was Michael's first pick [as an executive] and so much criticism directed at both of them when it didn't work out. When that happens you can do one of two things. You can run from all that or you can use it as motivation. What better way to try to turn your career around than to go back to where it all started?

"There were a lot of easier places Kwame could have gone, a lot of safer places. I think this says a lot about his competitive instinct and fire that he wanted to take on this challenge."

The latter qualities are areas in which Brown has been frequently questioned in the past, especially by Jordan himself when both were in Washington. But Bartelstein also cited Larry Brown's reputation as a teacher as another attraction for Kwame Brown as he tries, like fellow recent Bobcats signee Shaun Livingston, to resurrect his career.

It was widely presumed around the league that Jordan, because of their history, would not want to work with Brown again, but the 28-year-old -- at a bargain-basement price -- fills a need for the size-deficient Bobcats after attracting interest this summer from several playoff teams including Utah, Phoenix and Atlanta.

The Boston Celtics also strongly considered signing Brown before another future Hall of Famer, Shaquille O'Neal, agreed to sign with the Celtics at the league minimum.

The Bobcats have yet to officially comment on Brown's signing, but it's believed that Jordan is willing to try again with the much-maligned power forward not only because of the inviting price but because the other centers on the roster are thirtysomethings Nazr Mohammed and Erick Dampier and veteran DeSagana Diop, who has at times fallen out of favor with Larry Brown.

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looks like Dampier is headed to the Rockets


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looks like Dampier is headed to the Rockets

Not a bad move. With Yao having the 24 minute limit, they can't depend on Brad Miller to guard any physical big men.

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