Fine. Send him a check. I'm not stopping you. Don't say I didn't warn you when he's in jail. You probably thought that Jim and Tammy Baker were wonderful people. If you didn't learn from that, you'll never learn.

I don't always judge people on looks. Only people asking for money. If you look like a con man and walk like a con man, you're probably a con man.

Not sure, but I'm guessing he's received quite a few donations from Ted Haggard.

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What the fuck does any of this have to with the Bears?

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Again, nice suppositions.
You make the false statement that I thought that the Bakers were wonderful people, then you try to reinforce your lies by saying that "If you didn't learn from that, you'll never learn."
I never liked the Bakers or thought they were legit. Don't put words in my mouth.
"I don't always judge people on looks." Right! You judge them on their beliefs, the location of their residence, their income, and so on.
You are a hater of the worst ilk. You make Elmhurst Steve look like he is Dr.Martin Luther King, Jr.
Mister Reason called you a "dope." Reason has done the "dopes" of the world a great disservice.

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I'm setting the over/under on money donated to Joel Osteen by SteveSarley at $100.

I'll take the over.

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Not sure how that affects the odds.

Not a dime, Rick!
As a matter of fact, I've only seen Osteen a half dozen times.
I found his messages to be sincere and easily understood.
He doesn't use fire and brimstone and basically talks about how
we should all treat each other.
I was surprised at how little mention of money he makes, unlike almost
every other televangelist on the screen.

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Oh crap! I hope I haven't awakened the RPB mults!

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Wrong. I'm sticking up for the poor and stupid people that he preys on. Osteen is the thief. And yes, I hate him. He will be in jail. And I will accept your apology to me when that happens. Cuz that's what Jesus would do. See, I didn't even need Osteen to tell me that.

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If he gets caught, I apologize and if he doesn't?
You use a typically underhanded ruse, BD.
What is the time limit for getting caught?
A year? A decade? Infinity?
If he still hasn't been "caught" fifty years from now, you
will just fall back on the excuse that he hasn't been caught "yet."
Again, hater, you assume that all of his supporters are "poor and stupid."
I don't know your financial situation, but if "stupid" is a qualification for
following Osteen, you should be sitting in the front row of his congregation.

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I don't care about his wealthy supporters or his "smart ones". I'm sure he has those too. But you really can't be smart if you support him. I feel bad for his poor supporters. The senior citizens that give him half of their Social Security checks. That's pretty sad to me even though I'm an awful "hater" in your mind.

It's very hard for me to trust people. I'm certainly not gonna trust some bible-thumping jack ass that asks for donations just cuz he's a positive thinker and tells people to love everybody. It's a safe way to live IMO. Call me crazy for being curious as to where that money goes. Especially when you see him living in a mansion and living the high life. I know that makes me an idiot in your mind, but most people are thinking the same thing.

I don't have a time limit on his arrest. He is guilty. Probably of a lot of things. It's just a matter of them catching him and being able to prove it.

He was given a 13 million dollar advance for his next book.


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Osteen's flourishing Lakewood enterprise brought in $55 million in contributions last year, four times the 1999 amount, church officials say”. (Earthly Empires Businessweek.com)

Why in the world are we discussing Osteen again?

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Here. Read this about this disgusting pig. Oh wait, that's hateful. Sorry. I meant to say disgusting crook of a pig.

http://www.religiondispatches.org/blog/politics/1409/

Apparently he's been making Lovie Smith bad for all these years...

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How long did it take you to find a blog that was anti-Osteen?
It's a blog, brain surgeon.
Did you read the rebuttals or just the parts you liked?
A blog is just an opinion.
You are a hater and a person that groups people into categories on an unfair basis.
I am done with this subject.
Just put me on ignore and sit there and hope that Joel Osteen gets in trouble.
That is the Christian way to do things, isn't it, Mister Holier-than-thou?

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I'll support Joel Osteen until he wants try to build a mosque two blocks away from Halas Hall. I'm not gonna have him rubbing his religion in the face of my football team.

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The Christian thing to do is hope he gets arrested so he can't rob poor people. They need to be protected from themselves. Yes, I do root for criminals to be arrested. I'm not going to apologize for that. I'm not holy. Although I once saw the Virgin Mary on a piece of toast I made. So that's something.

I'm done with this subject too. I win. Osteen loses. Just another day on the message board. I never wanted it to go like this. I just wanted to inform everybody that Lovie supports him.

Exactly. Osteen probably spends less time talking about God than any other preacher that I have ever seen. He's not your typical preacher. Actually, he's not even schooled or trained in religion.
Regardless of your religious preferences, Joel Osteen is a very good speaker who talks about self perseverance, self reliance, positivity, & treating people with respect & dignity.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

And we know you are all about that.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

Much as I really tend to agree with Scorehead about.... well... nothing at all, I'm with him on this one. Osteen's message is more about bettering yourself than it is about religion. Yes, he's a televangelist, which usually means a con man. But if he helps just one person live their life better, then more power to him. If somebody who maybe had been turned off by the scandals of other large churches, say Catholics, finds Christ because of him then more power to him. He's not hurting anybody.

Come here Baby...kum by ya my friend...kum by ya...

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

You have never heard of someone but you KNOW that they are crooked etc? Beardown the votes have been tallied! You are officially one of the STUPIDEST people taking in air!

Joel Osteen's mullet is the most successful mullet ever. Wipes the floor with Billy Ray's mullet. Maybe his mullet can coach the Bears.