There's another report out this morning that says the Bulls are out of the talks because they won't move Noah.

hmm...murphy probably makes a lot, right? that would be a lot of money to clear for sure, but then again what are the Nets going to do w/ all that cap space? it certainly didn't help them this summer. Offering Favors is pretty good, but in my opinion I think they'd be better served with actual talent that the Bulls can offer as opposed to expiring deals.

I believe Murphy makes at least $12 million a season, probably more. I think the Nets are going to have somewhere around $30 million in expiring deals after this season. I haven't seen a list of free agents for the next off-season, or who else will have the room to made a bid for Anthony though.

If Isiah Thomas says that he is going to the Bulls or Knicks that means he is headed to New Jersey

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The Bulls continue to blow my mind:


Jason Goff: Bulls have reportedly pulled out of the Carmelo Anthony sweepstakes. Joakim Noah apparently is the sticking point.

Completely ridiculous!

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Bringing in Carmelo would certainly give the Bulls some cachet, but I don't necessarily think they would be improved. Who is going to rebound the basketball when you have to trade away major pieces of your front court?

For the Bulls to make a deal they would probably have to trade Noah, Gibson, Deng. The only inside guy they would be left with is Boozer. There are downsides to making the deal, and there are downsides to not making the deal. I think the downside of trading away most of your inside prescense is worse, IMO.

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This wouldnt be a problem if they still had the White Panther

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Exactly

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You make this move because it makes the organization better for the next 5-7 years, IMO. It could be a drop off this year (which is even debatable), but in the long run it makes you better. Just my take.

Would you make the deal if there wasn't a guarantee that Melo would sign an extension?

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Very good question. Probably not. I'm assuming you can get that done.

well that much is obvious. you wouldn't move major pieces for a year of Melo. you need a guarantee he's going to sign an extension, period

i know it will leave them thin up front, but I still would make the deal. you can always find a reggie evans/ronny turiaf type guy who can grab rebounds. you can't always find a premier scorer who can get to the line a TON.

the picks the Bulls would be giving up aren't going to be that great. they're likely going to be in the top 4/5 in the East. JJ, who cares. Gibson is like a Mark Blount type. so it's basically Melo for Noah? yeah i like Noah too and yeah it would leave them thin but you have to give up something to get something. i'd do it in a heartbeat. further more, what about the top teams in the East? Miami is going to be thin up front, Boston is aging and Perkins is comoing off an injury. no one is stopping Howard, sure. Just saying yeah it might come into play if they were facing the Lakers front line in the Finals, but i'd worry aobut that when the time comes. I'm not too concerned about being thin up front in the short term

You all forget that 2010/11 begins the Omer Asik era

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Jason Goff doesn't have any secret inside information unless you consider all those ESPN/Yahoo Reporters that tweet out conflicting information.

You mean Goff's info about Wade coming to Chicago wasn't any good?

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pax wanted noah since he hit college, and noah has far exceeded what he thought he would be at this point. i really doubt that foot is that bad, they just knew they werent going anywhere anyway last year so why press it.

they wanted noah for a reason too...

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Interesting...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5602165
Anthony doesn't want to go to New Jersey it seems. The Knicks can't offer Denver anything.

The Bulls may be playing this just right and all that talk of the Nets may have been an attempt to scare Paxson into including Noah.

If they get Carmelo without getting rid of Noah Paxson may have saved his legacy in Chicago. I think you do it either way but I think the Bulls may be playing from strength right now.

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Good point.

Denver could be put in a situation where they know they have to deal Melo. The Bulls offer of Deng, Gibson, and a first-rounder might be able to get it done. I would also have no problem including the first-rounder that the Bulls received from the Bobcats in the Tyrus Thomas deal. It's an unprotected pick in 2014 or 2015. You could always give the Nuggets next year's first rounder (which will probably be a late round pick, plus the 2014/2015 Charlotte pick, which could very well be a lottery pick). The Bulls could be able to not trade Noah once Denver realizes there are not any better options on the table.

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Thanks for the link Brick. If Pax is able to get Melo without giving up Noah there is no doubt in my mind he saves his legacy and probably brings more titles to Chicago. A potential lineup of Rose, Brewer/Korver, Melo, Boozer, and Noah is pretty stout.

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I need to stop reading this thread. I'm just going to be disappointed just like with LeBron.

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Team Cutler.

That's been my angle through all of this speculation - why would Denver let him walk when all indications point to the fact that he's already looking at other teams?



Agreed.

Very very very possible. But at this point, I just have no reason to give Paxson the benefit of the doubt. Hope you're right though.

I'm trying to tell myself that this won't happen for this reason as well, but it's hard to not consider this move a real possibility

Once training camp opens in about a week, we will probably know for certain if Melo will get traded. Right now all of this is just speculation, and there haven't been many comments from Denver's front office, or Carmelo himself. Once everyone gets together, a move will probably be made very quickly, if it's going to happen.

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Does all of this speculation involve the assurance of being able to lock down an extension?

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You don't make the trade unless he signs an extension.

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That's probably what Denver is desperately trying to do right now.


Exactly.

If this isn't a sign and trade, he probably takes his talents to Madison Square Garden next season. The good thing about this whole siutation is that with the possible lockout, and the expiration of the CBA, Melo really needs to sign an extension now, rather than waiting. He could be leaving multi-millions of dollars on the table if he doesn't.

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If we would just move Deng/Gibson + picks, would you do it without the extension already in place? I'd strongly consider it if we were keeping Noah.

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Team Cutler.

Lookin at it now that's a pretty formidable lineup. It'd be great if Pax couble pull it off but I doubt it'll happen. Hope I'm wrong

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