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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:20 pm 
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I'm a huge Ryne Sandberg fan...but I almost wish that he would tell Ricketts & Hendry to fuck off & take their job & shove it. I'm afraid that Hendry, who loves the old timers, may want to talk with Torre now.



Good call. I definitely don't want a guy who almost needs NEEDS TWO FUCKING HANDS for all of his world series rings to get the job over a minor league manager with major league experience.

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Maybe Hendry knows if Sandberg got the Job that his seat would be hotter than usual. The fans will not Blame Sandberg before Hendry.


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I dont think Torre is the right fit for a rebuilding team.

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 Post subject: Re: Manager Candidates
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How many of those world series rings did Torre get while managing the Braves, Cardinals and Dodgers?


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Northside_Dan wrote:
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I'm a huge Ryne Sandberg fan...but I almost wish that he would tell Ricketts & Hendry to fuck off & take their job & shove it. I'm afraid that Hendry, who loves the old timers, may want to talk with Torre now.



Good call. I definitely don't want a guy who almost needs NEEDS TWO FUCKING HANDS for all of his world series rings to get the job over a minor league manager with zero major league experience.


He's 70 fucking years old. Torre wouldnt be the right fit for a bunch of youngsters. By the way, Ryno managed most of these youngsters.

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 Post subject: Re: Manager Candidates
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I dont think Torre is the right fit for a rebuilding team.

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Torre isn't my top choice. But it's silly to complain that a man who has 4 rings is going to get interviewed for the Cubs job when he's 1 year removed from a 95 win ballclub.


Also, way too much is being made about the fact that Ryne managed a lot of these players. That should be nowhere near the top 10 reasons you'd hire him.

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 Post subject: Re: Manager Candidates
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Torre isn't my top choice. But it's silly to complain that a man who has 4 rings is going to get interviewed for the Cubs job when he's 1 year removed from a 95 win ballclub.


Also, way too much is being made about the fact that Ryne managed a lot of these players. That should be nowhere near the top 10 reasons you'd hire him.


After watching Lou sleepwalk through here I don't know if another sleepy old manager is the cure for what ails the Cubs. Even though I don't totally agree with it I will be shocked if it is anybody but Sandberg.

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 Post subject: Re: Manager Candidates
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Don't forget Bob Melvin is on the interview list too.

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Maybe Hendry knows if Sandberg got the Job that his seat would be hotter than usual. The fans will not Blame Sandberg before Hendry.



this is an incredibly excellent point...knowing Hendry and after reading this post, I can almost guarantee that it will NOT be Sandberg

Hendry is a bully and will feel the need to bully Ryno, and Ryno wont stand for it

if they dont get Girardi, it will be Brenly

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Maybe Hendry knows if Sandberg got the Job that his seat would be hotter than usual. The fans will not Blame Sandberg before Hendry.



this is an incredibly excellent point...knowing Hendry and after reading this post, I can almost guarantee that it will NOT be Sandberg

Hendry is a bully and will feel the need to bully Ryno, and Ryno wont stand for it

if they dont get Girardi, it will be Brenly


What do you mean by Hendry is a bully?

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What do you mean by Hendry is a bully?

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Maybe Hendry knows if Sandberg got the Job that his seat would be hotter than usual. The fans will not Blame Sandberg before Hendry.



this is an incredibly excellent point...knowing Hendry and after reading this post, I can almost guarantee that it will NOT be Sandberg

Hendry is a bully and will feel the need to bully Ryno, and Ryno wont stand for it

if they dont get Girardi, it will be Brenly


When whistler says you have an incredibly excellent point its time to rethink your position

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this is an incredibly excellent point...knowing Hendry and after reading this post, I can almost guarantee that it will NOT be Sandberg

Hendry is a bully and will feel the need to bully Ryno, and Ryno wont stand for it

if they dont get Girardi, it will be Brenly


What do you mean by Hendry is a bully?


Hendry will bully any player he can, any manager he can, and any other GM he can...he thinks he is the only one on the road so to speak

Bradley criticizes the fans, suspend him...Z blows up, suspend him the same day...Ohman makes a very minor critical comment, he is traded...Theriot says he doesn't think he will be traded, he is traded the next day...no way any GM could get rid of Sosa, he bullies Baltimore into it...no way any GM can get rid of Bradley, he bullies Seattle into it AND gets cash back...fleecing Pittsburgh left and right over the years...the guy is a big boy's club mentality when he has no right to be...the only guy he respected was Lou Piniella, because Piniella ( a former Yankee) was the one who brought the big boys club mentality here

he tries to be the Yankees and Red Sox when he just aint

by the same token, he never has worked a trade with any of the "big boys" unless he was ripped off...when do u see him ever make a trade with the Red Sox, Yankees, Braves, Dodgers, etc?

traded Lilly and Theriot for nothing
traded Lee for nothing
the Nomar trade was a wash, Boston just wanted to get rid of him and we were the suckers who got him on the decline
traded Maddux for nothing

he has a bully mentality, and that comes from his hick Iowa roots...and that mentality works both ways...bullying weaker teams, and being scared of the big boys

He doesnt have the laissez-faire approach that Ken Williams does...free thinking, being patient with the players...Hendry always wants to have an imprint on everything...even down to the lineups...he refuses to allow the kids to develop

look at how he was honest about Trammell not being considered...he has no diplomacy...it bugged him so much that Trammell was "in the way" that he had to come out and run roughshot over him in public and say he wouldnt be considered for the manager's job...ok maybe u dont think he's a candidate but dont humiliate him in public

he hates the idea of being patient with kids and he wants to retool and have another veteran lineup next year...same thing he did after the 2006 season...he only gives kids a chance when they are out of a race...same as in 2006...he doesnt give it another year for the kids to flourish and establish themselves...sure the retreads produced in 2007 and 2008, but where did that leave us long-term? nowhere...Aardsma was gone, Theriot was gone after his first ever slump, Fontenot was gone after being great for us...the only kid from 2006 that lasted was Sean Marshall...and even he was treated like garbage until this year

Hendry is a starry-eyed bully

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 Post subject: Re: Manager Candidates
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whistler, I've said it before, I'll say it again. You are an idiot.

Would you actually keep guys who are bad for the clubhouse (Bradley, Z) around? That seems like a good idea.

Trading Lee for nothing was fine, Lee had nothing left in the tank.

Trading Theriot, you got a 5 year younger version of Theriot back. Are you upset about this one because you have a schoolgirl crush on The Riot (Not that there is anything wrong with that)?

The Maddux trade was a wash, old pitcher sent away and the Cubs were out of contention.

Bradley to Seattle was a bad contract for a bad contract. No one else wanted to eat Silva's shitty deal.

As far as not being patient with kids, David Aardsma is not good (neither was Neil Cotts). Fontenot was a return piece in the Sosa trade, or did that escape your memory?

Finally, when it comes to Trammell, everyone knew he wasn't going to get a shot at managing the team. He knew it too. There is a stigma that comes with managing the worst team in the last 50 years or so (giving him the interm gig would be akin to Lovie quitting in week 8 and having Marinelli take over instead of Martz or Tice). Quade was a successful minor league manager with more experience than Trammell.

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["quote="sjboyd0137"]What do you mean by Hendry is a bully?[/quote]
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Hendry will bully any player he can, any manager he can, and any other GM he can...he thinks he is the only one on the road so to speak

Bradley criticizes the fans, suspend him...Z blows up, suspend him the same day...Ohman makes a very minor critical comment, he is traded...Theriot says he doesn't think he will be traded, he is traded the next day...no way any GM could get rid of Sosa, he bullies Baltimore into it...no way any GM can get rid of Bradley, he bullies Seattle into it AND gets cash back...fleecing Pittsburgh left and right over the years...the guy is a big boy's club mentality when he has no right to be...the only guy he respected was Lou Piniella, because Piniella ( a former Yankee) was the one who brought the big boys club mentality here

he tries to be the Yankees and Red Sox when he just aint

by the same token, he never has worked a trade with any of the "big boys" unless he was ripped off...when do u see him ever make a trade with the Red Sox, Yankees, Braves, Dodgers, etc?

traded Lilly and Theriot for nothing
traded Lee for nothing
the Nomar trade was a wash, Boston just wanted to get rid of him and we were the suckers who got him on the decline
traded Maddux for nothing

he has a bully mentality, and that comes from his hick Iowa roots...and that mentality works both ways...bullying weaker teams, and being scared of the big boys

He doesnt have the laissez-faire approach that Ken Williams does...free thinking, being patient with the players...Hendry always wants to have an imprint on everything...even down to the lineups...he refuses to allow the kids to develop

look at how he was honest about Trammell not being considered...he has no diplomacy...it bugged him so much that Trammell was "in the way" that he had to come out and run roughshot over him in public and say he wouldnt be considered for the manager's job...ok maybe u dont think he's a candidate but dont humiliate him in public

he hates the idea of being patient with kids and he wants to retool and have another veteran lineup next year...same thing he did after the 2006 season...he only gives kids a chance when they are out of a race...same as in 2006...he doesnt give it another year for the kids to flourish and establish themselves...sure the retreads produced in 2007 and 2008, but where did that leave us long-term? nowhere...Aardsma was gone, Theriot was gone after his first ever slump, Fontenot was gone after being great for us...the only kid from 2006 that lasted was Sean Marshall...and even he was treated like garbage until this year

Hendry is a starry-eyed bully


:lol: :lol: Awesome :lol:

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Brenly withdrew his name for consideration, citing professional and personal reasons.

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Brenly withdrew his name for consideration, citing professional and personal reasons.

Sounds like he's got another offer somewhere. All year dude made it clear he wanted to manage.

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Watch him go to St Lou and shove it up Hendry's ass for the next 5-10 yrs.

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I thought the same thing, Darkside.

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Either we lose Johnny Cakes as an announcer, or the Cubs job is so bad even he doesn't want it. Awesome.

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Its going to be Wedge.

:puker: :pukel:

The word on the street yesterday is he's a raging asshat.

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Its going to be Wedge.

:puker: :pukel:

The word on the street yesterday is he's a raging asshat.

I don't want him. I am fine with Quade running the ship until Hendry gets the axe he so deserves. That man should not be in charge of this process. He should have been relieved of his duties long ago.

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I know you weren't saying you want him. I just don't understand what is gained with Eric Wedge. I think I'd rather give Sandberg a run if they're talking Wedge.

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Its going to be Wedge.

No way. Girardi or Sandberg.

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Its going to be Wedge.

No way. Girardi or Sandberg.

I don't want Wedge. I just don't think Hendry will hire anyone that is already popular amongst the fan base. Do you want Hendry making this decision or would you rather have a change at GM?

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I don't want Wedge. I just don't think Hendry will hire anyone that is already popular amongst the fan base. Do you want Hendry making this decision or would you rather have a change at GM?
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G.M change for sure. Hendry should be parking cars.

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