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If they arrested somebody, then you the line of questioning was much better than those asked by Sarah after Blackhawks games.


Can't tell how truly asinine this comment is due to the fact that you also apparently have little understanding of English sentence structure.

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If they arrested somebody, then you the line of questioning was much better than those asked by Sarah after Blackhawks games.

Way too early....c'mon. :| :roll:

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Some people never cease to amaze me over the internet. I hope all the ill will and bad jokes that you say on here dont turn around on you or your family. 2 children lost their mother, possibly at the hand of their father and people want to make jokes. Stay classy CSFMB.

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Stay classy CSFMB.


Get off the cross for just a moment and recognize "CSFMB" as a whole didn't make stupid comments; I see only one egregiously ignorant (albeit borderline unreadable) comment by some fuckstick called Tom.

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Stay classy CSFMB.


Get off the cross for just a moment and recognize "CSFMB" as a whole didn't make stupid comments; I see only one egregiously ignorant (albeit borderline unreadable) comment by some fuckstick called Tom.



I was just saying everyone should stay classy about the sitatuion, which everyone has for the most part. I think a few people, besides Tom, have made comments on here that if they really looked at it should probably be taken back.



Full disclosure: My inlaws are pretty close with the family so seeing accusations and shit just thrown around kinda annoyed me. I know people are talking about it but to just pull shit out of the blue and make jokes about it seemed a bit low, even for this board.

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Lighten up Francis Sawyer - you should be angry at the murderer, not some smart alecky message board people.

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Sad story - figures a Sox fan would have zero class in this situation.

Edit - Just so we are all clear here I'm talking about Frank. If this was posted by someone outside of the you know what people would be calling for their banning. BS if you ask me - totally uncalled for.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:38 pm 
How this thread has made it 3 pages without a picture of Hawk I will never know.


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How this thread has made it 3 pages without a picture of Hawk I will never know.

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Time to load up that foe list again.

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Having family members that are educators and work in areas where shootings are common, it disturbs me to think this would be related to her position as a teacher. I hope that's not the case. It's terrible enough as it is.

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Having family members that are educators and work in areas where shootings are common, it disturbs me to think this would be related to her position as a teacher. I hope that's not the case. It's terrible enough as it is.

In this very thread it is stated that the husband was arrested, no?

Doesn't mean he did it.

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Doesn't mean he did it.

Come on johnny, you're talking with the conspiracy theorist remember? :lol:

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Doesn't mean he did it.

Come on johnny, you're talking with the conspiracy theorist remember? :lol:

Yeah that whole innocent until proven guilty thing is overrated.

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Ayj, you are one classy fella.

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Yeah that whole innocent until proven guilty thing is overrated.

I know. Just ask Drew Peterson.

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Read the updated article in the Sun Times online, fathers story doesnt quite wash. Condolences to Sarah and Zack.

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This story states that the dad was arrested and charged with murder.

This was done same day. BTW, How long did it take for them to arrest and charge Drew Peterson?

So based on the time factor, he must be guilty.

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He allegedly told investigators he woke up Wednesday morning when he heard a gunshot go off. He said he gave his wife the gun to celebrate their 34th wedding anniversary earlier this summer, sources said.

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Once again, best wishes to the family.

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driven to hospital by a family member????

Her head was transported by ambulance.

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Imagine what Sarah & Zak are feeling. This is essentially like losing both parents. IMO, the initial reports are enough to convince me that the father is guilty of this crime. How do the "kids" (young adults) handle that??? Sucks.

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Imagine what Sarah & Zak are feeling. This is essentially like losing both parents. IMO, the initial reports are enough to convince me that the father is guilty of this crime. How do the "kids" (young adults) handle that??? Sucks.

Pleaes don't ever, ever do jury duty.
If you have to go to selection tell the judge you believe in space aliens, or cold fusion or something.

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Catching up,reading this thread and unfortunatley no surprises. There is outrage over the crime. There are those who feel bad for the offspring. There are those who want to crack jokes. I like Don Tiny & PIP and am sorry to see a fight broke out in this thread. Maybe we can start a string of threads under the Title: Derailed. This is where two combatants can go to iron out thier differences and keep threads like this clean. Over the next few days,I'm sure more facts will come out about this tragedy. I too feel for the brother & sister.

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Imagine what Sarah & Zak are feeling. This is essentially like losing both parents. IMO, the initial reports are enough to convince me that the father is guilty of this crime. How do the "kids" (young adults) handle that??? Sucks.

Pleaes don't ever, ever do jury duty.
If you have to go to selection tell the judge you believe in space aliens, or cold fusion or something.

I was on a jury once and the judge asked one guy "Do you believe the defendant is guilty simply because she was charged with a crime"? To which he responded, "Oh yes, absolutely" Bye Bye. That one always works.

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Imagine what Sarah & Zak are feeling. This is essentially like losing both parents. IMO, the initial reports are enough to convince me that the father is guilty of this crime. How do the "kids" (young adults) handle that??? Sucks.

Pleaes don't ever, ever do jury duty.
If you have to go to selection tell the judge you believe in space aliens, or cold fusion or something.



OK. My bad. I was "over-generalizing". But IF I had to GUESS on his being guilty or innocent...with the way the story is currently being reported....my money would be on guilty. If it looks like a duck & quacks like a duck...its probably a duck.

That said...true story...A year or so ago I was called to jury duty....somehow got selected....and it was a murder trial. Very interesting several days but the real decision the jury had to make was not guilty or innocent, but rather 1st or 2nd degree. 4 hour deliberation....guilty 1st degree.

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Bail of $2 million was set today for Allan Kustok, accused of killing his wife Anita in their Orland Park home and then driving her body to a local hospital.

Kustok has denied killing his wife. He has told authorities in a video statement that he woke up to a loud noise Wednesday morning and found his wife in bed, dead from a gunshot wound.

Her arms were crossed over her chest and her right hand was holding a Smith and Wesson .357-caliber handgun, he told police. He grabbed the gun and tossed it across the room, then held her and wiped the blood from her face, authorities said.
After the bond hearing, the couple's children made their first statement about the killing, saying through an attorney they do not believe he killed their mother, who went by the name Jeannie.

"Jeannie Kustok was a saint," attorney Pete Rush said. "She lived her life for everyone else. For her family, for God.

"The children know that their father could not have committed these acts the state accused him of."

The couple's two children, Sarah and Zak Kustok, sat in the front row of the courtroom during the hearing, holding each other as prosecutors laid out details of their mother's death.

Kustok told authorities he threw the gun across the bedroom as he held his dead wife. Then he wiped blood from her face, retrieved the gun and put it to his own head, according to prosecutors.


He then fired the five remaining rounds into an armoire in the bedroom, he told police. He did not call 911 or seek any emergency response, but after an hour and a half he drove her to the hospital.


Anita Kustok was wearing bed clothing and wrapped in Allan Kustok's green house robe and the fitted sheet and top sheet of the master bed, prosecutors said.

At the hospital, Allan was asked to go with police. He told authorities he and his wife were alone in the house and had retired to bed.

Prosecutors also detailed the autopsy report on Anita Kustok.

The bullet entered the left cheek below the eye and exited out the right side of her neck, prosecutors said. The Cook County medical examiner's office said Kustok died within seconds.

The office also said it appeared the gun was just a few inches from her cheek when it was fired, prosecutors said. The gun -- bought by Allan Kustok in 2009 at Anita Kustok request -- has a trigger pull of between 10 and 12 pounds, prosecutors said.

Kustok's attorney asked for bail of $200,000, explaining the family could only afford that. The attorney told Judge Joan Margaret O'Brien that Kustok has been a resident of Orland Park his entire life and is not flight risk.

But O'Brien agreed to prosecutors' request for a bail of $2 million.

At a later news conference, Assistant State's Attorney Peter Troy explained why he didn't believe Kustok's story.

"I found it striking that, according to him, she was lying on her back with her arms crossed and a weapon of significant power and weight was still in her right hand," he said.

"I believe any reasonable person would find it unreasonable to wait an hour and a half before you take your loving spouse to the hospital with a gun shot wound to the head," he added.


Asked about a motive, Troy would only say that authorities are investigating "all of the circumstances regarding the domestic situation between the defendant and his late wife."


The slaying has sent shockwaves through Orland Park, where the Kustoks were the ideal suburban family.

The Kustoks' daughter Sarah was a standout DePaul basketball player who is an anchor/reporter at Comcast SportsNet. Their son Zak led Northwestern to the Big Ten football title in 2000. He played briefly in the NFL, including with the Chicago Bears.


Allan and Anita met while he was an offensive tackle at the University of Illinois from 1969-1973, said the couple's friend Mike Navarro.

Navarro was Allan Kustok's teammate at Illinois and later coached Zak at Carl Sandburg High School in Orland Park.

"I would never expect anything like this to happen -- if it's true," said Navarro, who sounded shaken. "They were like the perfect couple. They had a very happy marriage."

"(The Kustoks) have been great friends for a long time to my wife and I. She was the kindest, sweetest person you'd want to meet. Al is a quality individual who I have a lot of respect for."

At Central Elementary School, Anita Kustok managed the gifted program and was responsible for teaching the most advanced third-, fourth- and fifth-graders. She worked in the district for seven years and made friends with most of the staff.

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The bullet entered the left cheek below the eye and exited out the right side of her neck,



I read earlier where she was right handed...so a bullet entering just under her left eye...exiting out the right side of her neck....and then he claims to have found her in bed with her arms crossed and the gun in her right hand. If I am reading the story correctly, then his story just doesn't add up.

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What a miserable situation, whatever the truth is (though, as walkr said, from that article it does seem fairly apparent that his story doesn't make much sense) ... it isn't like there's a version of what happened where one could feel some sort of closure or comfort knowing it was ultimately "x" over a, b, or c.

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