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 Post subject: Kosuke for Dice K?
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Did anyone else just hear this rumor on the update? Not sure how I feel about this if it is true.

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 Post subject: Re: Kosuke for Dice K?
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Thats an incredibly racist trade idea Hank


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Make it happen.

A bad player that plays 1 out of 5 days > A bad player that plays everyday

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 Post subject: Re: Kosuke for Dice K?
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Id rather the Cubs traded for Hideki Irabu.....GLORIOUS

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Id still like to hear more about this "Asian Quarterback"?


Not sure why I put quotes around that, but it looks right doesnt it?


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 Post subject: Re: Kosuke for Dice K?
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Depends on how the money all works out. Kosuke isn't a bad player. Dice K is a 4-5 starter right now. He's on a 6 year 52 million contract and signed through 2012 so roughly 17m. while Fukudome signed 4/48 through 2011 so he's only owed 12.

If Boston would eat that difference, sure.

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Id still like to hear more about this "Asian Quarterback"?


Not sure why I put quotes around that, but it looks right doesnt it?

You put quotes around it because you're sexist.

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 Post subject: Re: Kosuke for Dice K?
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Depends on how the money all works out. Kosuke isn't a bad player. Dice K is a 4-5 starter right now. He's on a 6 year 52 million contract and signed through 2012 so roughly 17m. while Fukudome signed 4/48 through 2011 so he's only owed 12.

If Boston would eat that difference, sure.

Dice K has had success that Kosuke never had


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Northside_Dan wrote:
Depends on how the money all works out. Kosuke isn't a bad player. Dice K is a 4-5 starter right now. He's on a 6 year 52 million contract and signed through 2012 so roughly 17m. while Fukudome signed 4/48 through 2011 so he's only owed 12.

If Boston would eat that difference, sure.

Dice K has had success that Kosuke never had


Obviously you are forgetting that Koskue was an ALL STAR.....perhaps the greatest right fielder in Cubs history as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Kosuke for Dice K?
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Northside_Dan wrote:
Depends on how the money all works out. Kosuke isn't a bad player. Dice K is a 4-5 starter right now. He's on a 6 year 52 million contract and signed through 2012 so roughly 17m. while Fukudome signed 4/48 through 2011 so he's only owed 12.

If Boston would eat that difference, sure.

Dice K has had success that Kosuke never had



Granted, but not enough for the Cubs to consider taking on any more money. Dice K's best year he still had a 1.32 WHIP so not like he was unbelievable.

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 Post subject: Re: Kosuke for Dice K?
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i'd do it. daisuke won't have another year where he was... what, 18-3 or 20-5 or something with a sub-3 ERA... and be it injuries and/or the league catching up with him, he's never approached anywhere close to those numbers since... kok-suk fuk-u-do-me is completely useless on this cubs team. sure he plays a solid RF, sure he takes walks and is capable of starting off hot hitting .300 and getting some waiver wire love in fantasy leagues for a couple'a weeks... but really, this team is facing a 3-4 year rebuilding era with the way things are (and likely a few years longer with the literally-withering jim hendry still captaining the ship)

wtf do you need him for? he's not in your long or even middle range plans... he might hit .280 take some walks with disappointing power #s (relative to his salary) and he's taking away at-bats from tyler colvin and/or whoever else the mighty mighty coo have coming up the pipeline.

with daisuke, odds are you get some finely marinated suck, however, if he/the-team catches lightning in a bottle and makes an improbable run at a weak-to-mediocre division, you'll get far more out of a resurgent daisuke than a never-surgent kosuke.

DO IT!

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AL Pitcher to the NL = Usually a good idea for the pitcher


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Forgot about this... this is a definite plus.

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 Post subject: Re: Kosuke for Dice K?
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If they absorb a decent portion of his contract then I am good with it. It fills a spot in the rotation and it frees up some much needed space in the OF.

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 Post subject: Re: Kosuke for Dice K?
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rogers park bryan wrote:
AL Pitcher to the NL = Usually a good idea for the pitcher


hey nice signature there, captain... OFF THE NUTS!

that's just a dumb throwaway line from a dumb throwaway rap song @ http://sinicalypse.kaen.org/06%20-%20no ... marvin.mp3

edit: i know my flow is awful but i say some shit.... shrug.

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 Post subject: Re: Kosuke for Dice K?
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One big reason not to do it? Kosuke is off the books after 2011. Dice-K has one more year at $10M.

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Trading one overpaid/underacheiving player for another. The benefit comes from opening up right field for Tyler Colvin.


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 Post subject: Re: Kosuke for Dice K?
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just waive Fukudome and be done with it

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whistler wrote:
just waive Fukudome and be done with it

:lol: :lol:

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just waive Fukudome and be done with it


So you are OK with the organization just flushing 12 mil down the toilet. He isnt a terrible player.

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 Post subject: Re: Kosuke for Dice K?
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Why don't they just write him off? All these teams, they write off everything.

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You dont even know what a write off is do you?

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You dont even know what a write off is do you?

No I don't, but they do and they're the ones writing it off.

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Mail him to Boston and get postal insurance.


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Drive him to Detroit in the back of a postal van, and you can cash him in for 5 cents per strikeout.

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Drive him to Detroit in the back of a postal van, and you can cash him in for 5 cents per strikeout.

At five cents a bottle and five cents a can, we're taking home five hundred dollars a man!

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