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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:06 am 
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Per the Ricketts, they need $200 mill from the state and they will match with another $200 mill?

Thats a lot of mills?

total an estimate, but if this Trainagle building ever gets built it is about 250,000 SF? at an estimate of $300/SF, thats $75 mill...OK lets make it $100 mill for the area around it, landscaping, etc. so we have only $300 mill left for the park.?

They already redid the Bleachers, so thats not going anywhere for the most part?

$300 mill for basically sky boxes on 2 levels and some new player facilities. If it gets done, thats gonna be some nice stuff.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:10 am 
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u talk too much big money

im still stuck at trying to get a $40 ticket for $10

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RPWhistler, numbers occasionally confuse me as well. But BF makes some very good points here. I would like to see where all of this money is specifically going to.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:26 am 
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Quinn & Daley should tell Ricketts to pound sand.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:30 am 
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Quinn & Daley should tell Ricketts to pound sand.


The Cubs are the 3rd largest tourist attraction in the state of Illinois. Will Quinn & Daley have the balls to tell Ricketts to pound sand?


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Scorehead wrote:
Quinn & Daley should tell Ricketts to pound sand.


This is another bad thought. Chicago, and Illinois are not the only corrupt governments that pay for stadiums. It happens in most states, the Cubs should not be exempt. Part of this purchase included public money.

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Drop In wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Quinn & Daley should tell Ricketts to pound sand.


This is another bad thought. Chicago, and Illinois are not the only corrupt governments that pay for stadiums. It happens in most states, the Cubs should not be exempt. Part of this purchase included public money.


What are you talking about?

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Quinn & Daley should tell Ricketts to pound sand.


This is another bad thought. Chicago, and Illinois are not the only corrupt governments that pay for stadiums. It happens in most states, the Cubs should not be exempt. Part of this purchase included public money.


What are you talking about?


I'm talking about Tom, (see Bucky Chris first name reference) getting state funding like every other major sports franchise. I'm not sold they should be rehabbing Wrigley. But the belief they shouldn't get state funds is misguided and bad. Almost every stadium is at least partially financed by Government. Again, not saying it's right, but why should the Cubs be excluded?

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Scorehead wrote:
Quinn & Daley should tell Ricketts to pound sand.


Drop In wrote:
This is another bad thought. Chicago, and Illinois are not the only corrupt governments that pay for stadiums. It happens in most states, the Cubs should not be exempt. Part of this purchase included public money.


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What are you talking about?


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I'm talking about Tom, (see Bucky Chris first name reference) getting state funding like every other major sports franchise. I'm not sold they should be rehabbing Wrigley. But the belief they shouldn't get state funds is misguided and bad. Almost every stadium is at least partially financed by Government. Again, not saying it's right, but why should the Cubs be excluded?


Do you think the state of Illinois should give Tom Rickets $200 Million or not?

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If he can give a detailed expense report, yes. Again, I would like to see the government not have to pay for any sports complex. However, why should the Cubs franchise not get public money, when every other franchise is provided that luxury. They do create a ton of revenue, and I'm sure this was already on the table during the purchase.

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My understanding is that the $200MM is not coming straight out of the General fund, so to speak. Ricketts is asking for the state to cover $200MM in bonds over 35 years. Someone here can probably confirm or refute this

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After seeing Todd park cars on Undercover Boss, I'm sure the money will be going into good hands

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Selig ought to ask ESPN and Fox Sports to fork over $400,000,000 to Ricketts!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I see where the Yankees have raised ticket prices throughout the Stadium.
MLB is on the road to disaster......This is a runaway train in bad economic times....PEOPLE DON'T NEED BASEBALL GAMES AS AN EXPENSE....
I guess the Yankees figure Vinny in Brooklyn just can't wait to see the Blue Jays!!!!

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When Jerry gets a lump sum for this improvement, then the Cubs will get approval.

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When Jerry gets a lump sum for this improvement, then the Cubs will get approval.

And you will be against it still, right?

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I see where the Yankees have raised ticket prices throughout the Stadium.
MLB is on the road to disaster......This is a runaway train in bad economic times....PEOPLE DON'T NEED BASEBALL GAMES AS AN EXPENSE....
I guess the Yankees figure Vinny in Brooklyn just can't wait to see the Blue Jays!!!!


Bob, as it concerns the Cubs, I think if locally based corporations can find all that money to donate to Rahm's campaign, they can probably scrounge up the 30 grand or so to renew their Cub tickets.

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My understanding is that the $200MM is not coming straight out of the General fund, so to speak. Ricketts is asking for the state to cover $200MM in bonds over 35 years. Someone here can probably confirm or refute this


Where Tax money comes from is irrelevant. As funds get transferred to cover other shortcomings created.

Specifically, sports teams uses this arguement to say who will be paying the tax. Reinsdorf used it saying it was hotel visitors and now Ricketts is using it. Both are wrong.

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the sun-times reports that Ricketts was turned down by Daley and Quinn

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the sun-times reports that Ricketts was turned down by Daley and Quinn

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Whistler, you are a moron.

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the sun-times reports that Ricketts was turned down by Daley and Quinn

GOOD


Whistler, you are a moron.

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well, there goes my Whistler=Bigfan theory...

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well, there goes my Whistler=Bigfan theory...

This City of Fools theory was almost as bad as a City of Fools call.

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