Ryan Theriot was on Waddle and Silvy yesterday

he said the Cubs weren't willing to talk about his contract offer AT ALL....not negotiate, but TALK...they wouldnt even TALK...they wouldnt even let Theriot talk...here was a high character guy who gave them so much from 06-09 and they treated him like that

this is why Hendry has burned a lot of bridges...his direct, honest, unsophisticated nature doesn't allow him to have healthy relationships with his players...everything with him is a forced, right-angle relationship

Theriot mentioned all the high character guys that Hendry rode out of town after 2008, and noone knows why: Kerry Wood, Marquis, Eyre, Howry, Derosa...Hendry was only loyal to the guys he feared, the guys who had a repuataion, a name bigger than his own : Derrek Lee, Piniella, Soriano

Great to hear him talk about Fontenot's wedding
those 2 will forever be linked in Cubs lore, great to see their friendship survived Hendry's bully ways

Hendry thinks he is the Yankees...he also ran Trammell out of town, who was a real good guy

here is a link to the podcast, a great listen...good to see Theriot be his laid back humorous self...when he was with the Cubs he said all the right things and didn't make waves...nice to see him sound free again

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/po ... d-the-cubs

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I have never, ever heard a single person say that Jason Marquis was a character guy.
I beleieve he was characterized as a "clubhouse cancer."
Theriot and Fontenot "forever linked in Cubs lore?"
As what? A couple of totally mediocre slap hitting middle infielders with serious defensive deficiencies?

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Being bad at baseball might have something to do with it.

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Kerry Wood, Marquis, Eyre, Howry, Derosa all are gone because they were no good. Derosa was the only guy they should have kept. I love when people bitch about letting Theriot go. The guy didnt hit for power, couldnt run, was poor in the field and was a .284 carrer hitter. Man how the fuck did the Cubs ever let this guy go?

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When Chris Archer hits the starting rotation, you'll
kiss Hendry's ass for trading Darosa.

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Pretty nice ERA and K/9 but been in A/AA for quite a while, hasn't he?

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He just turned 22. I'll give him a pass.

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Yeah that whole trying to win the World Series thing is really over rated. Cub fans.

What does my post have to do with trying or not trying to win a World Series?

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Trading DeRosa and replacing him with Fontenot to free up money to sign Bradley was one of the worst moves Hendry ever made. That team could have made a run at a WS but Hendry robbed Peter to pay Paul and the'09 Cubs fell flat on their face because of it. I don't care if Chris Archer becomes a hall of famer that was one of the worst trades in Cubs history.

what? i think theriot is making 2.5 mil this year, so odds are he wants to bump that up and double that... and for what? what's this so much he gave them?

he hit .266 in his first year and stole bases pretty well... then he had his career year in 07... .307/1/38/22 steals... but he got caught stealing 13 times. he took ~70 walks and had an OBP of .387. after that, i remember in 08 he was hitting something like .320 when he discovered his warning track power and started swinging from his heels, and all of a sudden his average plummets he stops walking (~50/90 on walks/K) the OBP plummets to .343 and his grand power totals? 7/54. granted those 7 homeruns are nearly half of his major league totals.

from there, he didn't start taking walks again until he got traded to the dodgers... he threw up OBPs of .320 in his last season and a half with the cubs, and sure he was 22/28 BB/K in 54 games with the dodgers, but he hit around .220.

so the guy is already making 2.5mil and wants to get bumped up to ~4-5mil/year prolly, and for what? for a punch and judy hitter who stopped being any sort of a viable pest once he decided that he wanted to swing for the warning tracks? huh? and his defense is nothing special.... the term "league average" comes to mind.

i'm glad they got something for him, even if it's a year-plus of blake dewitt (at least i think he's under contract for this year)... you're not losing much, other than another "homegrown" guy who was nothing special whatsoever... and if the cubs are as cash-strapped as everyone says they are, why the hell would you give even a medium term deal to someone who's not part of the solution?

quoteth jimmy piersall "bad bad bad bad bad bad bad"

obviously you have a multy agenda, sir whistler... i hate jim hendry's gm-ing skills, or the lack thereof, as well. we can go back to giving up ricky nolasco (who is neurotic and doesn't like to walk people, but doesn't seem to mind getting hit)... hendry has made dumb trade after dumb trade compounded with the dumb signings and he was elevated from a position where he oversaw the cubs' shit farm system... he needs to go. but claiming the theriot case is that of an irrational untrustworthy bully who wouldn't show any good faith to a cubs cornerstone? mult please.

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Agreed. Milton Bradley was the worst Cub player I can ever remember
when you consider performance and the way he destroyed the clubhouse.
That said, keeping Darosa wasn't going to put the Cubs any closer to a title
than how they finished.
If Archer becomes only a decent starting pitcher, the trade for a back-up infielder
will be looked upon as one of the best trades ever.

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Theriot was not a smart ballplayer.
He didn't have good baseball instincts.
For someone with his speed, he was an awful base stealer.
Statistically, he was putrid at going from 1st to 3rd on a single,
2nd to home on a single and 1st to home on a double.
He had awful instincts in the field and often broke in the wrong
direction on batted ground balls.
He will not be missed.

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so you don't respond to an empirical analysis of the player of whom your bullshit claims were made, but you respond to people calling you out on your schtick?

mult please.

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i had and still have every intention of responding, i didnt forget...its just that i dont feel like thinking right now...patience

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You still haven't posted your picture with Ron.

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Wrong. The worst in the last 40 years HAS to be Bobby Murcer. Just ask Bill Madlock.

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and seriously dude, i want you to know that i absolutely loathe jim hendry... i know he's a fat withering fuck who has done nothing but set this organization back to the point where there's going to be ~4+ years of unrequited suck thanks to his dumbass shit. the fact that he was able to tell the ricketts "but the evil tribune company made me go out and offer soriano ~$40mil more than anyone else offered him" worked is a sad indictment of the rickettses, however, when i saw dear leader tom in the oversized harry caray glasses i realized the cubs were going to continue sucking for a long time.

i'm on your side with hendry... i hate the fucker, well, not personally but he has almost-singlehandedly ruined one of the two ballclubs in town. however, theriot ain't shit and never will be and i hope his grindiness with the cardinals goes to shit. maybe he can pull a brendan ryan and pull his socks real high to stand out, eh?

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Might as well delete this entire thread, bigfan.

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I also have had it with Hendry, but this post typically lacks facts:

Wood left for big money
Theriot is an overpaid slap hitter with 2nd base range at SS
Marquis was traded prior to getting big money
DeRo was also traded prior to getting big money
Howry was/is done
Eyre was misused by Piniella

Granted, the lack of chemistry created by getting Bradley doomed the team that year and that clearly is Hendry's fault, as is the lack of brininging in other "winning" type players, but most of the aforementioned moves actually had merit.

I'm more upset they traded Lilly. Theriot was a throw-in. didn't take long for the Dodgers to dump him either.
His whinning is just plain funny.

What the hell is your obsession with the word bully? Did you get shoved in a locker too many times in high school? Afraid Stu-Gotz is gonna come take your milk money?

I'm not going to play revisionist history with you but the Cubs were coming off 2 straight division championships and season where they led the NL in wins and DeRosa (and Jason Marquis) was a huge part of that. The Cubs were everyones pick to go to the WS in '09 then Hendry tinkered too much and fucked it up. 102 years and counting but fuck it we have Chris Archer!!!!!! WOO-HOO!!!!!!!!!!

this is where YOU lack the facts...Theriot wanted 3.65 Million...hardly anything for a guy who plays everyday and was a key part of the ballclub

bottom line is, Hendry is so imbalanced, he wanted so bad to give Soriano 18 mil a year, but cant give Theriot a small raise...Theriot was a key part of BOTH the 07 and 08 teams, and while not a cornerstone player, he was definitely a part of a good core, and he was still young enough...he deserved a raise, plus his popularity with the fans, the clubhouse, media, etc...Hendry is a fuckin asshole pure and simple

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first off i think the word itself is hilarious...i wish more of u would laugh at it the way I do... considering he's big and fat, it makes it even funnier

second, I feel it's important to highlight an aspect of Hendry that really just gets ignored...people just want to box him as good or bad...good or bad...spend money or don't spend money...etc...and there is so much confusion , and people circle around the real problem that they can't seem to identify...the underlying principle that drives Hendry's behavior

and that is, that he is a big bad bully

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Theriot is a utility infielder who can't handle third base. There isn't a big market for guys like that.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

I'm sure as soon as Spaulding gets off his lap, that's exactly what he's gonna do!

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

he's already proved u wrong in the past, and will do so againt this year

funny how noone made even the slightest criticism of Theriot before he was traded...

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