Alcohol's a red herring for diabetes. It's only bad because it makes you want to eat crazy carbs afterwards. If you can stick to like only putting your mouth on meat after you drink you'll be good.

Beer is bad though because it has crazy carbs. But a diabetic can drink as much vodka as a nondiabetic.

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That reminds me of when I listened to PUBEner and J Hood and Hood said that he's had to pay for the last 10 lunches he had with Laurence "4 BREAKING STORIES" Holmes.

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its a habit that I had since the old school BBS days (ripco, the greek inn). Back in the day before the internet, there used to be what were called BBS or bulletin board systems. You would call into them via telephone with your 300 baud modem from a dumb terminal or an apple iie with a Hayes modem, or a Commodore 64. On those systems, everyone used to sign their posts. I guess I just never stopped. Thats what happens when you are raised a computer geek.

sabu

(damn, I did it again)

yeah I know what you're talking about was just curious.

now i will await a long post from sini about this....

later

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You sure seem to spew out a lot. Where is the evidence Santo was an alcoholic? Where can we we the quotes from Fergie Jenkins? Do you just make up this shit or just hear it from the littlw whiner, danny? Who the fuck are Goff and danny to decide who should be a spokesman for the JDRF? Ever notice that danny and the perv always have "sources" when they slam someone? Made up sources usually, the gutless way to do things. But gutless describes both those asswipes. My sources tell me that danny is as big of asshole in person as he is on the air and terry is a perv. Same credibility as their "sources"

Unfortunate that Goff has evolved into nothing more than a parrot of the show he works on. Sure, he'll take a point and attempt to refine it OR occasionally "really disagree" with his Lords...but, overall, he's little more than another way for B&B to get their gospel out to the masses.

I used to like Jason, but too often he uses Bernstein's "I'm not going to debate with you meatballs" approach to radio (or even when he is presenting some f'd out premise for "his" listeners to chew on). He's gone from a "I'm going to try to tell it like it is, with a bit of bravado and slang" to a guy who does nothing more than recycle the same talking points and tired arguments that his bosses dished out the day/week before.

I happened upon his show this am, as well, and was not stunned when he couldn't just be a classy guy and let Santo RIP. I didn't especially care for Ron, but the guy was a true Chicago baseball legend that raised OVER 50 MILLION DOLLARS for a charity. But, yah, lean on him "not taking care of himself" as the reason you can't just heap praise "like everyone else". You surely did lots of research, speaking to doctors and associates to measure just how horribly he was taking care of HIMSELF, then went on the air to let the masses know they shouldn't blindly "love him" or "miss him". OR, you went on the air and belched out whatever it was your hero Bernstein croaked out 24 hours earlies.

Edgy sports talk host, indeed. Keep on thinking that you have some sort of fan base that is tracking you down, whether it's at 8 on Saturday morning or 10 o'clock on a Wednesday night. Because that's happening.

I can admit, I never personally saw Ron Santo get hammered. I am going off the stories I have been told my whole life. If you have proof he did take great care of himself, please post it. I'm not against changing my point of view on it, I've just heard it over and over and over that he never properly took care of himself. And that's not just from Dan. It's from a lot of people. Most people accept that he didn't live like a Diabetic should. But again, if you have proof to the contrary, let's hear it.

And again, I'm not saying he was a bad person, or even a bad spokesperson for JDRF. I think I heard today he raised $50 Million dollars for them. That's fantastic.

Good post from RodeoVann who seems to have met him on several occasions:

A few facts.

Type 1 Diabetics stand a 60% chance of being a amputee, a 50% chance of being a double amputee from the age of 7-25, once they hit 50, those percentages go up another 10%. Ron chose to have his 2nd leg amputated because he didn't want to go through what he went through with his first leg, a decision many amputees make simply because of the change in the way they walk or stand commonly causes issues with the other foot in short time. The other point that is never bought up with Ron's first amputation is that 2 years earlier he broke his ankle and developed a Charcot's Joint which made the healing of his ankle impossible, which led to his amputation.

He lived till he was 70, while most medical studies don't do specific studies on this, the number they have out there is 58-65, again, he was 70 when he passed.

When Ron was diagnosed with diabetes's there were no glucose meters, the only way they could test their blood was with a urine test, which wasn't even close to as accurate as the preventive stuff they have out there today. The insulin he took was pork beef insulin, they don't even make that anymore because of its side affects. So like any disease, with time, there are more things to help, but that doesn't help the damage that has been done.

Santo is not the only diabetic to drink, it's frowned upon, but not fatal. Its easy to point at one thing he did and say "that's it, that's why", but as someone who has a beer or two a day, I have never been told to stop, nor have any docs said to me when things came up, "do you drink"? Again, frowned up, but not even near the worse thing you can do.

Santo, like most diabetics "cheated", whether it was drinking, downing a brownie, what have you, but if you manage your blood sugar correctly, maintain a constant diet and exercise, things he must have done due to the age he lived to, you will enjoy a nice life, the things that happened to Ron, happen to a lot of diabetics, the stats prove it.

Its easy for those who might know someone who knows someone is diabetic, have a family member who is, whatever, but you truly don't know unless you have to deal with it day after day after day, it changes your life obviously, you know when the blood sugar is to high or to low, no one else does, its impossible for them too, so while its great to have a opinion, unless your living it, you really don't know.

Jay has been seen out getting a little drinky. Is he going to get scolded now?

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For the record, I didn't hear Jason today, so my previous post wasn't about what he said or didn't say. B/B had their fun with Santo over the years, but I never heard anything that I found stepping over the line, nothing worse then what Ron would say on the air or at the JDRF events.

And I'm not suggesting I do know, or have any idea. I also have absolutely no clue how difficult Ron's life was.


I'm simply going off the fact that I've always heard Ron had some struggles with it, and it seems you admitted as much. I'm not saying I wouldn't if I was in his place. But good to hear he used his mistakes to teach.

Bucky, I wasn't going off on anyone, just have read a lot here and other places, I just wanted to put some facts out there.

No no, didn't take it like that. I'm just trying to further solidify the point I'm trying to make. I actually love Ron Santo. My Grandma who passed this year loved him more than anyone, so I'm not trying to sully his his reputation or anything like that. Like I said, the positives in his life outweighed the negatives by a billion to one.

The last 3 JDRF fundraisers I have been too, 2 of the keynote speakers have been double amputees, they are Triathletes, they for sure took care of themselves, that's a assumption, just as saying Santo didn't take care of himself, they are just victims of the disease. I will say this about JDRF, for the millions Santo bought in, he could have showed up at those fundraisers drinking a cup of sugar and as long as he had checks with him, they didn't care, that's the business side.

As long as I went off on the business side of JDRF, let me say this, they can donate billions of dollars to the research of this disease, but they will never come up with a cure because companies like Lilly wont allow it due to the amount of money they would lose in sales of insulin and supplies. Just like any other large corp., they control what is done.

Great post Vann. Hopefully someone will show it to assbag Bern stine, he likes to deal in facts. I realize that medical degree he received from Duke makes him qualified to opine on the habits of type 1 diabetics and his assurances that Santo wouldve lived to the ripe old age of 90 had he just lived the Dr Danny way.

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Is that why the Cubs traded that little bastard??

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Now that you mention it..hmmm..

I listen to B/B every day and I don't think Dan has ever said anything about Santo that made me think he crossed any imaginary line there might be for making light of amputees. I can say that the amputees I know have said pretty funny shit about that situation.

No but he seems awfully damn sure that Santo was powering down 40's by the case and snarfing bags of Lays every day. Want to say he was a horrible broadcaster, thats fine. Its not like he was out shooting himself in a nightclub or running a dogfighting ring yet they really seem to take a lot of unneccesary shots ( and im not even talking about the amputee jokes) at a guy who brought a lot of awareness and money to a worthy cause because according to the way they think, he wasnt living the way a diabetic should and if he had, he wouldve had minimal health issues, and thats just not true.

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