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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:18 pm 
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Watching da bull last night and discussing the hot stove actions in baseball with some friends. One guy mentions that he recently saw an article that Garland admitted to taking performance enhancers during the 2005 season with the Sox. This was news to me. He couldn't produce the article via blackberry. Has anyone seen or heard this before? I had not.

The guy typically knows what he is talking about, or I would have just dismissed this as crap.


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It's bigger news if someone wasn't on steroids in 2005

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:22 pm 
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Possibly so, but to admit to it? That kind of surprised me if true. Granted, Garland did dance to the beat of a slightly different drummer, so if someone were to admit to it he might just be the guy.


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Your friend is fibbing...don't you think Duke Steroid Concussion boy would have been over this by now?

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He won 18 games in 2006 as well.

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Hey I here you. The guy seriously thought what he thought was true and is not good at the art of fabrication.

I also agree that if the story were true and published anywhere in the US, someone in Chicago media would have picked it up. I think it would be a huge deal if an active player admitted to using performance enhancers for a WS team. I thought it entirely possible that I just missed the story.


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There is a back story to Jon Garland.

If it ever comes out, Terry will say his peeps told him years ago.

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He won 18 games in 2006 as well.


Thus proof he could not have been using them in 2006 either!

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So we have holier than thou Cub fans accusing Quentin, Konerko and Garland of being on roids. Who's the next dumbass Cub fan to make an accusation? I'll put my money on Reason calling out Alexei. :wink:


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who fucking cares????
Are they taking away Garland's Heisman Trophy!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:34 am 
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So any Sox player that had a few good seasons either bookended by or right after some bad seasons was juicing, right bigfan? :roll:


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So we have holier than thou Cub fans accusing Quentin, Konerko and Garland of being on roids. Who's the next dumbass Cub fan to make an accusation? I'll put my money on Reason calling out Alexei. :wink:

I also find it ironic and hilarious that the poster child for steroids is basically what carried the Cubs thru the mid 90s and into the 00s.

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How did this turn into a Cub v Sox thing? Asking if anyone heard Garland admitted taking PED's?

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Drop In wrote:
How did this turn into a Cub v Sox thing? Asking if anyone heard Garland admitted taking PED's?


Are you new here? :)

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Drop In wrote:
How did this turn into a Cub v Sox thing? Asking if anyone heard Garland admitted taking PED's?

Ding!

The dude is a Red Sox fan! He lives here now and is more of a fan of the White Sox than any other professional team in town.

Keyser, Frank and Ag Bob come on now. This was a legitimate question and it really didn't matter what team the guy played for. If Garland actually admitted to taking PED's, which does NOT seem to be the case, it would have been big news. How many professional players freely admit to using PED's while still playing (exception to those under oath or already busted)? IF the story were true, I would find Garland to be a more interesting player AND it really doesn't matter who he played for.

Surprised Hooterville has not mentioned which team he came from. Damned Cubs dirtied him before he came to the beloved I guess. HOOTERVILLE. :lol: :lol: :drunken:


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could be thinking of cliff politte, who was implicated at some point.

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If it were Politte, it is a little different as he hasn't pitched in anger since what about 2006?


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Northside_Dan wrote:
It's bigger news if someone wasn't on steroids in 2005


This.


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
He won 18 games in 2006 as well.


yeah.

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Keyser Soze wrote:
So we have holier than thou Cub fans accusing Quentin, Konerko and Garland of being on roids.

Those aren't even the guilty parties.

I wonder why Rowand and Crede's names are never brought up in 'roid discussions. Those are the guys who I'd question. Also Cliff Politte, as Hatchetman mentioned.

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Politte is the most obvious


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Keyser Soze wrote:
So we have holier than thou Cub fans accusing Quentin, Konerko and Garland of being on roids. Who's the next dumbass Cub fan to make an accusation? I'll put my money on Reason calling out Alexei. :wink:


Who's hollier than thou? I would assume 80%+ of the Cubs roster for 10-15 years was on steroids as well. It's dumb how people seemed just shocked that an accusation comes out at this point

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It's dumb how people seemed just shocked that an accusation comes out at this point

To be clear my initial post wasn't an accusation. I don't think this thread got to the point. Blame the author. IF Garland, or any other ACTIVE baseball player freely admitted to using PED's it would be a story. Some dude said he thought he read a story Garland (an active player) admitted to using in 2005. Admission by an active player who is not forced into the statement would be a thing. Maybe a good thing? I didn't know if Garland had come clean so to speak. It was not an accusation of him or any other player.

FTR source is/was reliable in most cases with zero ax to grind. Time has passed and I think now he was wrong about the Garland story, and so does he.


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Who knows. Lots of players took steroids. Lots of players still take them. Right now growth hormone peptides are undetectable. I would imagine many players run at least a cycle in the offseason.

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