with the Cubs' scouting of late, I agree. Keep your prospects. That wouldn't have been true 5 years ago though.

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

Wow...that Phillies rotation is a thing...'93 Braves-like

wrong....thread?

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

Yeah

Fixed

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There is nothing more important to the Cubs and their fans than a prospect. The prospect keeps the dream alive. Enjoy year 2.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Garza would be a good pitcher on a bad team and by the time the team is competitive he is going to command a massive contract. If I thought Hendry had any intelligence then I would know that he was simply driving the market up for Garza which will in turn drive the market up for Big Z whom he would be trying to deal.

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

They are asking for a lot of solid prospects for him...

Here are two pitchers stats over the past 2 seasons


Pitcher A Age 27

23-22, 3.93era, 407.2ip, WHIP 1.256

Pitcher B Age 28

20-24 3.70era, 359.2ip, WHIP 1.343.



A is Garza, B is Randy Wells. While Garza does have more of an upside and will ultimately be a better pitcher, I think that helps put it into a bit of perspective that this guy wouldn't come in and be anything more than a #3 starter on a good team. Not even close to being worth talking about Jay Jackson, Archers etc.


Pass.

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Team Cutler.

Garza pitches in the AL East = Day

Wells pitches in the NL Central = Night

and Houston signed Wells to an extension last year specifically not to trade him

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

got to love Mully and Hanley. Three straight callers questioning getting rid of Zambrano. One went as far to ask "who would start?"

Well, I don't care if it's Pat Hughes as long as they get rid of contracts.

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

make that four calls in a row. You gotta be kidding me. "Turned his career around?" Are you nuts?

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

Why do you bother calling those numbnuts anyway?

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well, I don't usually have the radio on this early at work but I had to come in way early today. I should turn it off, I guess.

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

I should have PTFB'd when Mully said Cliff Lee is afraid of the AL. You mean, the league he won the Cy Young in? Jackass.

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Just heard a scoreboard updating stating that the Cubs would be interested in trading Koskue Fukudome......Gee really ya think?

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Maybe Big Z really is destined to be Glorious.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... tml?page=1

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

I wonder if Hendry would want to trade Soriano?

There's a difference between wanting to and being able to.

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So, what does the Cubs rotation look like as of now?

Off the top of my head, this is what I have, but please fill in the gaps..

1) Dempster
2) Zambrano
3) Wells
4/5) Silva/Gorzelanny/Cashner

CL Marmol
Setup: Marshall / Wood
Middle Relief: Either Gorzelanny or Cashner???
Also: Samardzija (no more options) and a bunch of candidates like Coleman, Russell, Berg...

If this is accurate, obviouly, the rotation will come down to Zambrano not having his usual meltdown. Wells is average at best, and the end of the rotation will probably be Silva and his $12 million. Demster isn't a #1, but he is dependable which probably makes him the #1 starter to open the season.

The bullpen looks about 3 or 4 deep right now, but Marshall, Marmol and one of those starters who don't make the rotation are flexible, but they can really use of these younger arms to step up.

I think the Shark will be in the rotation. His career will, shall we say, sink or swim.

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Shark will be in the rotation for four starts to start the year, suck ungodly ass, and get launched into space. God, what a retarded signing. Sean Marshall will probably get a look at #5.

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As glorious as it would be to see Fuk gone, this does not sound very appealing.

http://twitter.com/jcrasnick/status/15830113933328384

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that's actually completely untrue. If the Cubs go with prospects they're going to initially lose a lot of fans.

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

The Metropolitans are interested in acquiring the services of Gorz?

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/met ... n9BYLp2GWJ

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

While Hendry is stuffing his face this holiday weekend, the Rangers have signed Webb, pending a physical.

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Fuck Edwards and Zobrist

If Hendry signed Webb you would be bitching.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Depends on how much in guaranteed money Texas paid for Webb.

The Cubs appear to have moved past the Texas Rangers and into the driver’s seat in efforts to acquire Tampa Bay Rays 15-game winner Matt Garza — a potential move that could put the Cubs back into the ­National League Central title conversation for 2011.

A major-league source said Tuesday the Cubs were close to trading for the power-pitching right-hander, just as the Rangers were committing a big multiyear deal to third baseman Adrian Beltre and appeared to be pursuing free-agent closer Rafael Soriano. Those efforts come after the Rangers fell short in their efforts to use the money to keep big-ticket free-agent pitcher Cliff Lee.

Landing Garza — who has as many postseason wins as the returning Cubs roster combined — would be a significant response to upstart Cincinnati’s pitching-driven division title last season and division-rival Milwaukee’s trade for Cy Young winner Zack Greinke last month.

It would give the Cubs a Ryan Dempster-Garza-Carlos Zambrano top three to their starting rotation and make the back end look stronger with only two spots between Andrew Cashner, Randy Wells, Carlos Silva, Tom Gorzelanny and Jeff Samardzija. That would open the door for one or more of them to be traded in a next-step deal, depending on who might be included in a Garza move.

Such a trade might become necessary, considering Garza ($3.35 million in 2010) could command nearly double last season’s salary through arbitration and considering the Cubs are near their payroll cap already.

Gorzelanny has been rumored to be on the block for the last month.

Garza, 27, went 15-10, 3.91, for the Rays’ AL East champs in ’10.

His 2-1, 3.48 performance in five postseason starts would double the returning staff’s postseason wins total (recently reacquired Kerry Wood also has two). He would be the only Cub with a World Series start.

Cubs general manager Jim Hendry talked with the Rays about Garza four weeks ago at the winter meetings, but early indications for landing the arbitration-eligible pitcher didn’t look promising.

The Cubs have the farm-system depth for the first time in years, including several near-ready prospects, to make a deal happen.






I'm absolutely terrified about what we are going to offer.

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Team Cutler.

Hendry: How much for Garza?

Friedman: How much you got?

Hendry: No Im asking what you want for Garza?

Friedman: And Im askin you how much you got?

Hendry: This is ridiculous. Just tell me how much for Garza

Friedman: ALL of it, Boy




This article is exciting. Its wrong though. I dont think this is a win now move. I think this is a move for life after Zambrano.


Replacing Zambrano with a younger, potentially as crazy starter.