I wouldn't give him a job either if he doesn't care enough to have his ass in shape. It's easy shooting the ball when you don't have anyone in your face. The fact that that part of the workout went fine really isn't surprising. They didn't bring him in to see if he could shoot standing still.

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What are your thoughts on Shaq? An interested and semi-in-shape Shaq could be very interesting.

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Shaq would probably want to start or want starter mins. While he can still play he would be too much of a headache and hurt their style of play when he does suit up for his 50 games a year. I would pass.

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That's kinda what I figured.

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Yeah, that's what hurt the Suns when he was there. He completely disrupted their offense. He left, and they got better.

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Shocked to hear that T-Mac was uninterested in getting into game shape to fight for a job over the off season. It sounds like he won't be coming but if he does get ready for alot of off balance contested jumpers cause he won't be able to get around anybody anymore.

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Thanks Hova.

All I need to know.

No Shaq......No TMac

Next

So would LeBron

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

that 6.5 ppg and 3.1 rpg really is mesmerizing, isn't it?

Yeah, those Pistons are on fire.

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He plays on a bad team. Someone has to score points. Just because he is putting up okay numbers some games doesn't mean anything. You have to figure that there are 80-100 points that a team will score on most given nights. When your team is a pile of dogshit, you're going to be able to score some. There's no alpha dog on that team that is just going to take over a game. He's done an okay job this season, but I still wouldn't want him on this team. For any good that he might do, he would hurt the team even more. Sure, Bogans doesn't do much, but he's not going to start jacking up shots, or get burned on the defensive end time after time.

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OK, I'm looking at the last month and the entire year. Last few games were pretty good. I don't see any games where he played only 5 minutes. I only see 4 or 5 games the entire year where he played less than 10 minutes

there are a lot of games of him playing 20-30 minutes and scoring 6 points. Thus..........his average of 6 points and 3 rebounds.

he's a troublemaker and a malcontent. just like iverson, he may have a little gas left in the tank but it isn't worth it. the Pistons don't have a team, don't have a leader so it's fine for him to just wander and drift around and do his thing. like DB said, SOMEONE has to score on their team. He can't guard anyone either. At least Brewer and Bogans can do that. Plus the role of the 2 guard in the Bulls offense as currently constructed is more of a spot up shooter (hence Bogans ineffectiveness). McGrady is more of a slasher. Have you even seen McGrady play this year?

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Yes I have seen multiple Pistons game. I saw them in person last week when the Bulls kicked their ass and McGrady didn't do shit. I personally watched him drift around the court, not play any defense and generally not do shit. While his team got crushed. Not sure about his assist numbers either, from what I see he had 3 good games the entire year as far as that's concerned. Again, he's averaging like 2.5 assists. It's called an average for a reason. We've already gone over the minutes argument.

I would rather have Ronnie Brewer still. Not joking. More to basketball than scoring. Although FWIW I am enjoying the budding Bagels/IMU feud.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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i'm not saying I'm pleased with Bogans or anything; just that McGrady isn't the answer in my opinion

I do have a question though. Why are all of you watching so many Pistons games? They are awful.

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Were you a fan of Ron Mercer too?

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Well see.....Rose plays 35-40 minutes+ per game BECAUSE HE'S GOOD. He wouldn't be playing 15 minutes a game because he's you know, valuable to his team

Tracy McGrady is finally starting to get time on the Pistons......shouldn't that be a clue to you? I doubt he was playing PG because they're so enamored with his PG skills....it's because they didn't have anyone else and were forced to

Baku I apologize if I missed it, but exactly why wouldn't you want McGrady?

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Because I think he's more trouble than he's worth? He's below average defensively and his offensive game doesn't really fit what the Bulls need right now. He's not a spot up shooter. we've gone over the minutes thing, the per 48 minutes and all that shit but the fact is if he were on the Bulls he would not be playing 30-35 minutes, I would guess more like 18-20. So he'd probably be averaging the same as he is now. do you really think having him on the team would result in more wins? I don't. I think you could argue that it would be a marginal improvement but based on his history of a) being a bitch, b) not doing anything in the playoffs, c) injuries and d) just being old, I don't think it would be worth it.

I don't disagree with you at all. I wouldn't mind having him if they got him, but I think a lot of people look at Bogans in the starting lineup and panic. The truth of the matter is, scoring really hasn't been the Bulls' issue. They don't have problems putting points on the board. Their team defense is their issue. In situations when they need a key stop, they haven't proven they can get one.

My issue with Bogans isn't that he can't score (although it's annoying). It's moreso that he can't stay in front of anybody.

When the 93-94 Bulls (my favorite team of all time) lost Jordan, they still won 55 games despite losing Mike's 30 ppg. Why? Because Pete Myers used to guard the hell out of the opponent.

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Well. You're awfully pissy this morning. I am truely sorry for the joke as I wasn't aware you were feeling so bitchy this morning. I'll try to keep it in mind from now on...

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he and his boy McGrady are on the same menstrual cycle

Seriously. T-Mac talk seems to be serious business...

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...yo.

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that sums it up. But he can spot up and shoot. If he played with any intensity at all, I'd like him. He plays like he's trying to avoid injury. Or trying. He kept deferring to Tayshon Prince too.

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