It is currently Sat Nov 09, 2024 7:26 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 118 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:05 pm
Posts: 23749
pizza_Place: Pizanos
Michigan getting shit pumped is extremely enjoyable.

_________________
Peter Clavin wrote:
Because you are stupid, maybe read some books educate yourself.
Nardi wrote:
We walk, talk, and won't shit our pants


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:45 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:05 am
Posts: 28664
pizza_Place: Clamburger's
Warren Newson wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Expansion?

Or my pie in the sky theory?


I doubt your pie in the sky theory and I think expansion would kill the two weekends I mentioned.

Expansion is inevitable IMO

I don’t think you’ll have to worry about the weekends you and I love because I’m sure the conference championships will still be very consequential to the playoff format.

_________________
Nardi wrote:
Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:43 am
Posts: 2488
pizza_Place: Palermo's 95th
Jbi11s wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Expansion?

Or my pie in the sky theory?


I doubt your pie in the sky theory and I think expansion would kill the two weekends I mentioned.

Expansion is inevitable IMO

I don’t think you’ll have to worry about the weekends you and I love because I’m sure the conference championships will still be very consequential to the playoff format.


Losing during those two weeks and being completely ejected from the playoffs is not the same as falling from the 3rd seed to the 6th seed in a playoff bracket. Expansion will kill most of the drama from those weekends.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 10:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:05 am
Posts: 28664
pizza_Place: Clamburger's
Well I think you’re referring more to the consequences of a 16 team playoff format.

Which are valid concerns I agree with.

8 teams would be a good starting point IMO.

_________________
Nardi wrote:
Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 10:10 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:28 am
Posts: 23697
Location: Boofoo Zoo
pizza_Place: Chuck E Cheese
It’s college football, they won’t stop adding teams.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 10:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:21 pm
Posts: 663
pizza_Place: Angie's
Nas wrote:
I've seen enough. Cobra Kai time.

The Office marathon here.

Now who is gonna be the guy who says, "I totally knew it would be Georgia-Bama!"

_________________
W_Z wrote:
we continue to live in a real-time "monsters are due on maple street."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 10:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:22 pm
Posts: 24487
pizza_Place: It's gone
Twilight Zone marathon on 2 networks - Decades and SciFi


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 10:28 pm 
Offline
1000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:55 pm
Posts: 29461
pizza_Place: Zaffiro's
AfterMash and Joey Marathons at the Midget residence.

_________________
Antonio Gramsci wrote:
The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:05 pm
Posts: 23749
pizza_Place: Pizanos
Feel terrible for Michigan

_________________
Peter Clavin wrote:
Because you are stupid, maybe read some books educate yourself.
Nardi wrote:
We walk, talk, and won't shit our pants


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:22 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81454
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Feel terrible for Michigan

Harbaugh should leave.

_________________
Nas: Blago, who has single handedly destroyed CFMB?

Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share


“We cannot turn away from this truth in this election, putting patriotism ahead of partisanship is not an aspiration —it is our duty.” -Liz Cheney


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:28 am
Posts: 23697
Location: Boofoo Zoo
pizza_Place: Chuck E Cheese
They know what they’re doing putting these dog shit games on NYE when no one watches.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:03 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82060
just like every other year, there really are only two teams that are championship level

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:05 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:05 pm
Posts: 23749
pizza_Place: Pizanos
good dolphin wrote:
just like every other year, there really are only two teams that are championship level

Probably only one.

_________________
Peter Clavin wrote:
Because you are stupid, maybe read some books educate yourself.
Nardi wrote:
We walk, talk, and won't shit our pants


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:11 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:28 am
Posts: 4034
Warren Newson wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Expansion?

Or my pie in the sky theory?


I doubt your pie in the sky theory and I think expansion would kill the two weekends I mentioned.

Expansion is inevitable IMO

I don’t think you’ll have to worry about the weekends you and I love because I’m sure the conference championships will still be very consequential to the playoff format.


Losing during those two weeks and being completely ejected from the playoffs is not the same as falling from the 3rd seed to the 6th seed in a playoff bracket. Expansion will kill most of the drama from every college football weekend.


FTFY, it's a simply formula, the bigger your postseason, the more irrelevant your regular season is. College basketball is the perfect example, there are exactly zero important regular season college basketball games.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:36 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:21 pm
Posts: 663
pizza_Place: Angie's
good dolphin wrote:
just like every other year, there really are only two teams that are championship level

I think that's a relatively recent thing, though. It seemed like it started to shift about ten years ago. Even Missouri, Utah, and Kansas had teams that could have conceivably beat the team that won the championship not too long ago.

Today, no way. The # 3 team is usually so far behind the first two.

Saban's a great GM who gets the best players and the best assistant coaches. He's John Wooden, almost. It's not killing the sport, but goddamn it, it's a little less fun knowing Bama is going to win every year.

_________________
W_Z wrote:
we continue to live in a real-time "monsters are due on maple street."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:43 am
Posts: 2488
pizza_Place: Palermo's 95th
One Post wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Expansion?

Or my pie in the sky theory?


I doubt your pie in the sky theory and I think expansion would kill the two weekends I mentioned.

Expansion is inevitable IMO

I don’t think you’ll have to worry about the weekends you and I love because I’m sure the conference championships will still be very consequential to the playoff format.


Losing during those two weeks and being completely ejected from the playoffs is not the same as falling from the 3rd seed to the 6th seed in a playoff bracket. Expansion will kill most of the drama from every college football weekend.


FTFY, it's a simply formula, the bigger your postseason, the more irrelevant your regular season is. College basketball is the perfect example, there are exactly zero important regular season college basketball games.


I think you're right about a larger post season equalling a more irrelevant regular season, but for some reason, I have a higher tolerance for irrelevancy in college basketball than I do in college football. It's a lot easier to pick up and watch a random college football game than it is a college basketball game. In order to appreciate college basketball, I feel like I have to pick one team and watch them regularly. Therefore, I end up watching a lot of irrelevant college basketball games.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:45 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:25 pm
Posts: 4253
pizza_Place: pizza and subs
i think 60 teams makes it worthless, but 6-12 it doesn't much. I think it makes seasons matter much more to many other teams.

There is no preseason, and teams that get off to a slow start basically are done 3 weeks in when they are 1-2. A few years back USC looked like one of the best teams in the nation. but it had 3 early losses and basically had no shot.

And that can solve this goliath problem too. kids want to go where they have a shot at the championship. its why the CFP perennials (Bama/GA/OU/OSU/Clemson) received over half the 5 star athletes and 100+ other teams fought for what was left. expanding dilutes that base IMO. the transfer portal has a little bit but its more affected depth than anything. during BCS era teams like Florida, FSU, USC had 5 star 4th/5th string QB's. and depth charts that were unbelievable.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:27 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:28 am
Posts: 23697
Location: Boofoo Zoo
pizza_Place: Chuck E Cheese
Whatever “a shot” is, Cincinnati and Michigan showed they didn’t have it in the playoffs, so I doubt adding more teams really moves the needle for recruits.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:05 am
Posts: 28664
pizza_Place: Clamburger's
hnd wrote:
i think 60 teams makes it worthless, but 6-12 it doesn't much. I think it makes seasons matter much more to many other teams.

There is no preseason, and teams that get off to a slow start basically are done 3 weeks in when they are 1-2. A few years back USC looked like one of the best teams in the nation. but it had 3 early losses and basically had no shot.

And that can solve this goliath problem too. kids want to go where they have a shot at the championship. its why the CFP perennials (Bama/GA/OU/OSU/Clemson) received over half the 5 star athletes and 100+ other teams fought for what was left. expanding dilutes that base IMO. the transfer portal has a little bit but its more affected depth than anything. during BCS era teams like Florida, FSU, USC had 5 star 4th/5th string QB's. and depth charts that were unbelievable.

Image

It’ll take a few years to manifest, and a few losses by Georgia and Alabama.

… But it is something I think could be really beneficial for college football.

_________________
Nardi wrote:
Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:49 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:10 pm
Posts: 38609
Location: "Across 110th Street"
KDdidit wrote:
Whatever “a shot” is, Cincinnati and Michigan showed they didn’t have it in the playoffs, so I doubt adding more teams really moves the needle for recruits.


You would think that Friday would've ended any discussion about expansion. Until USC becomes relevant again.

_________________
There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:56 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:15 am
Posts: 27591
pizza_Place: nick n vito's
Expansion is going to be great, LSU and USC are about to be powerhouses again.

_________________
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82060
No doubt USC will be good immediately and great within 4 years, which will also coincide with the end of Alabama dominance when Saban retires

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:10 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:35 pm
Posts: 10755
Location: Parrish, FL
pizza_Place: 1. Peaquods 2. Aurelios
I'm not much into College football or Basketball, but I'm curious on how anyone thinks something is going to make the playoff bracket more competitive. If anything, more playoff teams just waters down the talent and you'll set the powerhouses dominate ever futher.

Whenever NIck Saban retires.... new powerhouse will take over. Rinse and repeat.

_________________
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
brick (/brik/) verb
1. block or enclose with a wall of bricks
2. Proper response would be to ask an endless series of follow ups until the person regrets having spoken to you in the first place.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:19 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:05 pm
Posts: 23749
pizza_Place: Pizanos
312player wrote:
Expansion is going to be great, LSU and USC are about to be powerhouses again.

Brian Kelly wrote:
Welp, ain’t no doubt them tigahs from loozena ‘gon have some say bout all dat. Dem boys fixin to cream Saban’s corn, I do declare.

_________________
Peter Clavin wrote:
Because you are stupid, maybe read some books educate yourself.
Nardi wrote:
We walk, talk, and won't shit our pants


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:25 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:28 am
Posts: 4034
hnd wrote:
i think 60 teams makes it worthless, but 6-12 it doesn't much. I think it makes seasons matter much more to many other teams.

There is no preseason, and teams that get off to a slow start basically are done 3 weeks in when they are 1-2. A few years back USC looked like one of the best teams in the nation. but it had 3 early losses and basically had no shot.

And that can solve this goliath problem too. kids want to go where they have a shot at the championship. its why the CFP perennials (Bama/GA/OU/OSU/Clemson) received over half the 5 star athletes and 100+ other teams fought for what was left. expanding dilutes that base IMO. the transfer portal has a little bit but its more affected depth than anything. during BCS era teams like Florida, FSU, USC had 5 star 4th/5th string QB's. and depth charts that were unbelievable.


I don't think that a six team playoff makes the regular season worthless, but each team that you add to the post season incrementally devalues the post season. Your point about USC a few years back having three losses and having no shot is the pinnacle of valuing the regular season. Before the playoff, you lost one game, and there was a very good chance your shot at the national title was gone, each week, whether you played Ohio State, Oregon State, or Valdosta State was of utmost importance.

I'll just go back to college basketball. Although unlikely, it is possible for a team to have zero wins during the college basketball regular season, and yet win the national title. That's a regular season that is just tremendously unimportant.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:21 pm
Posts: 663
pizza_Place: Angie's
BigW72 wrote:
I'm not much into College football or Basketball, but I'm curious on how anyone thinks something is going to make the playoff bracket more competitive. If anything, more playoff teams just waters down the talent and you'll set the powerhouses dominate ever futher.

Whenever NIck Saban retires.... new powerhouse will take over. Rinse and repeat.

One major argument among coaches goes like this: A guaranteed conference spot in a playoff makes conferences not in the South or on the coasts more attractive (or less unattractive). Also, by playing in a playoff, those schools will have more free exposure.

Not sure if it will bring parity. But college football once had it, and that time was not that long ago.

An expanded playoff might help the PAC-12. They have not had great teams lately, but sometimes teams other than USC are sometimes overlooked. (Utah was one year, though it was before they were in the PAC-12.)

Demographic and cultural reasons (everyone wants to play somewhere warm, which was not the case, in intent or effect, not long ago) also play into this.

_________________
W_Z wrote:
we continue to live in a real-time "monsters are due on maple street."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:31 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:21 pm
Posts: 663
pizza_Place: Angie's
Regular Reader wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
Whatever “a shot” is, Cincinnati and Michigan showed they didn’t have it in the playoffs, so I doubt adding more teams really moves the needle for recruits.


You would think that Friday would've ended any discussion about expansion. Until USC becomes relevant again.

Yeah, if it solves anything, that solution is gonna be a work in progress.

_________________
W_Z wrote:
we continue to live in a real-time "monsters are due on maple street."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:37 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:10 pm
Posts: 38609
Location: "Across 110th Street"
One Post wrote:
hnd wrote:
i think 60 teams makes it worthless, but 6-12 it doesn't much. I think it makes seasons matter much more to many other teams.

There is no preseason, and teams that get off to a slow start basically are done 3 weeks in when they are 1-2. A few years back USC looked like one of the best teams in the nation. but it had 3 early losses and basically had no shot.

And that can solve this goliath problem too. kids want to go where they have a shot at the championship. its why the CFP perennials (Bama/GA/OU/OSU/Clemson) received over half the 5 star athletes and 100+ other teams fought for what was left. expanding dilutes that base IMO. the transfer portal has a little bit but its more affected depth than anything. during BCS era teams like Florida, FSU, USC had 5 star 4th/5th string QB's. and depth charts that were unbelievable.


I don't think that a six team playoff makes the regular season worthless, but each team that you add to the post season incrementally devalues the post season. Your point about USC a few years back having three losses and having no shot is the pinnacle of valuing the regular season. Before the playoff, you lost one game, and there was a very good chance your shot at the national title was gone, each week, whether you played Ohio State, Oregon State, or Valdosta State was of utmost importance.

I'll just go back to college basketball. Although unlikely, it is possible for a team to have zero wins during the college basketball regular season, and yet win the national title. That's a regular season that is just tremendously unimportant.

Right now there are two college basketball regular season games I remotely care about, Duke and Carolina. I now don't care about the bowl games. Expanding the playoffs will marginalize more of the regular season. And frankly it's becoming much easier to write off sports.

_________________
There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:05 am
Posts: 28664
pizza_Place: Clamburger's
It’ll be fun RR.

Image

_________________
Nardi wrote:
Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: CFP
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:57 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:57 pm
Posts: 91811
Location: To the left of my post
If you are a college basketball fan there are a lot of really good regular season games.

Most people aren't fans of college basketball though. They are fans of creating a bracket and hoping for a 4/13 upset in the first round of the NCAA tournament which is fine. I love the tournament too but I also like the Maui Invitational and watching MSU/Michigan and Purdue/Indiana.

The casual sports fan ignores college basketball until the NFL is mostly done. The sport gets a lot more popular the day after the NFL conference title games.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 118 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: USA and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group