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JASON GOFF TO SIT IN FOR MEATPANTS AGAIN NEXT WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 22.

What year?

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Wow some serious shots on Meat.

During the transition or just the posts on here? I never turned it back on after the internet feed timed out.

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Human life > dog life, but a person that purposefully and cruelly takes an animal's life is morally worse than someone who accidentally or negligently takes a human life.

Little and Stallworth made a series of bad decisions before they got behind the wheels of their cars. They did not, at any point, think to themselves "I am going to kill someone." Vick made a decision that he was going to run an operation that would torture and kill dogs on a regular basis. Vick's transgression was morally worse, whatever the result.

This. Don't see why its so hard for people to understand why he's still and forever will be hated by the general public. I guess all we can hope for is that Vick is one day run over and killed by Leonard Little or Dante Stallworth. Put a nice cherry on top wouldnt it.



I understand it, but I think it's moronic. Vick is a bad guy. Plenty of worse guys playing. I don't care if Little and Stallworth accidently killed someone. Someone died as a result of their actions. No person died as a result of Vick's actions. Little and Stallworth will now and forever be worse people.

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Human life > dog life, but a person that purposefully and cruelly takes an animal's life is morally worse than someone who accidentally or negligently takes a human life.


What about someone who swats a fly?

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Wow some serious shots on Meat.

I was talking to a customer... can you elaborate?


B&B where ripping on him for being off so much. Dan kinda jumped in a little bit also added , ask him why he was off he might tell you.

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JASON GOFF TO SIT IN FOR MEATPANTS AGAIN NEXT WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 22.

What year?

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Monday is the 22nd

I assume Meat is taking both off.


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Do you hold someone back because they enhance a show as a bit player? Goff makes the Mac show better in all areas except for his occasional propensity to talk over guest callers. I think you need to let him move on. Baldy will expand his role. B&B will hit a speed bump and then be back to where it has been.

No man, I'm not saying Goff shouldn't expand just because I like his B&B production. I'm just basically noting that...I like his B&B production. If he gets a full-time gig eventually I'll be happy for him.

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B&B where ripping on him for being off so much. Dan kinda jumped in a little bit also added , ask him why he was off he might tell you.

Dammit, I should have fired it back up and caught that conversation.

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What year?

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Monday is the 22nd

I assume Meat is taking both off.

Dammit

I was looking at the wrong month on the calendar.

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Dammit

I was looking at the wrong month on the calendar.

I will fix this


CGS is your head. This is 2 days in a row with a calender malfunction.

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I understand it, but I think it's moronic. Vick is a bad guy. Plenty of worse guys playing. I don't care if Little and Stallworth accidently killed someone. Someone died as a result of their actions. No person died as a result of Vick's actions. Little and Stallworth will now and forever be worse people.

How is accidentally doing something bad worse than purposefully doing something bad? Heck, in Stallworth's case, he might have been entirely innocent (despite being intoxicated); there was evidence that the victim was trying to commit suicide by running into traffic. Imagine Stallworth isn't drunk, but driving completely within the law, and the fatality still occurs. Is he still worse than Vick?
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Dammit

I was looking at the wrong month on the calendar.

I will fix this


CGS is your head. This is 2 days in a row with a calender malfunction.

Not enough caffine, and I'm trying to quit smoking...all in all, it's not pretty.

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I understand it, but I think it's moronic. Vick is a bad guy. Plenty of worse guys playing. I don't care if Little and Stallworth accidently killed someone. Someone died as a result of their actions. No person died as a result of Vick's actions. Little and Stallworth will now and forever be worse people.

How is accidentally doing something bad worse than purposefully doing something bad? Heck, in Stallworth's case, he might have been entirely innocent (despite being intoxicated); there was evidence that the victim was trying to commit suicide by running into traffic. Imagine Stallworth isn't drunk, but driving completely within the law, and the fatality still occurs. Is he still worse than Vick?
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Human > dog > fly


Because the accidental action resulted in the death of a person. The purposeful one did not.

No imagine. He was drunk. He hit another person, resulting in his death. He is worse than Vick.

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sjboyd0137 where is this calendar of which you speak? Are you tracking this manually, or does this actually exist on the cbslocal thingy?


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No imagine. He was drunk. He hit another person, resulting in his death. He is worse than Vick.

OK. :roll: Would he be worse than Vick if he wasn't drunk? I didn't realize that you only answer questions that are perfectly phrased, like some 1980s text-based DOS game.

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Wait, let's get back to the Vick stuff for a second.

Vick was put in federal prison for intentionally hurting animals.


I hope we all understand that the Feds only put him in prison because he was making money without the T-Men getting their cut.

Not excusing the dog part; that's the part the public is going to rail about anyway so the Fed's filed it under that -- BUT, if he hadn't been making money, but instead was just doing this to pass the time rather than whittling or playing solitaire, you can rest assured there would have been little to no jail time.

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sjboyd0137 where is this calendar of which you speak? Are you tracking this manually, or does this actually exist on the cbslocal thingy?

It's the one sitting on my desk...Mac mentioned Goff would be in for MP next Wednesday, so as a public service for those who do not listen when MP is on, I figured I would add the PSA. Unfortunately, when I looked at my calendar for the date, I looked at December without actually realizing it. I am currently blaming the nicotene withdrawls for any and all mistakes I make for the remainder of the week.

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No imagine. He was drunk. He hit another person, resulting in his death. He is worse than Vick.

OK. :roll: Would he be worse than Vick if he wasn't drunk? I didn't realize that you only answer questions that are perfectly phrased, like some 1980s text-based DOS game.


Roll all you want. You're bringing up "what ifs". I'm talking about what happened.

"What if" the dogs were only maimed and not killed by Vick? Does he then jump back in front of Little and Stallworth in the line of human pieces of excrement?

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Wait, let's get back to the Vick stuff for a second.

Vick was put in federal prison for intentionally hurting animals.


I hope we all understand that the Feds only put him in prison because he was making money without the T-Men getting their cut.

Not excusing the dog part; that's the part the public is going to rail about anyway so the Fed's filed it under that -- BUT, if he hadn't been making money, but instead was just doing this to pass the time rather than whittling or playing solitaire, you can rest assured there would have been little to no jail time.

Fair enough, and we can argue about whether what Vick did should be a federal crime. But I don't think that gets at the moral question.

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Wait, let's get back to the Vick stuff for a second.

Vick was put in federal prison for intentionally hurting animals.


I hope we all understand that the Feds only put him in prison because he was making money without the T-Men getting their cut.

Not excusing the dog part; that's the part the public is going to rail about anyway so the Fed's filed it under that -- BUT, if he hadn't been making money, but instead was just doing this to pass the time rather than whittling or playing solitaire, you can rest assured there would have been little to no jail time.

Fair enough, and we can argue about whether what Vick did should be a federal crime. But I don't think that gets at the moral question.

Actually seems sociopathic to me, to derive pleasure out of torturing and killing.

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I agree, I just don't think whether its a matter of federal law vs. state law (or no law) gets at the matter well, nor do I doubt that it would not have been prosecuted as fully if the gambling issue wasn't involved.

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I'm not condoning dogfighting. I've seen it up close once and I wouldn't want to see it again. But I'm guessing that the cruelty involved in the commercial farming of beef and hogs isn't stopping most people here from enjoying their steaks and chops. And by all accounts, pigs are smarter than dogs.

I don't think Vick thought he was doing anything wrong by training and fighting dogs. He was taught certain techniques and he used them. He was part of a subculture where it was acceptable. I don't think he gave those dogs any more thought than you give the pigs who provide your bacon and are treated no better than Vick's dogs.

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I think there's a difference in killing qua nourishment and killing qua entertainment, but whatever the scope of that difference, I agree that humans have a duty to mitigate the pain experienced by farm animals when killed.

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I'm not condoning dogfighting. I've seen it up close once and I wouldn't want to see it again. But I'm guessing that the cruelty involved in the commercial farming of beef and hogs isn't stopping most people here from enjoying their steaks and chops. And by all accounts, pigs are smarter than dogs.

Well we'd have to be talking about one charming motherfucking pig here.

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"What if" the dogs were only maimed and not killed by Vick? Does he then jump back in front of Little and Stallworth in the line of human pieces of excrement?

I don't know. Seems like a close call to me.

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sjboyd0137 where is this calendar of which you speak? Are you tracking this manually, or does this actually exist on the cbslocal thingy?

It's the one sitting on my desk...Mac mentioned Goff would be in for MP next Wednesday, so as a public service for those who do not listen when MP is on, I figured I would add the PSA. Unfortunately, when I looked at my calendar for the date, I looked at December without actually realizing it. I am currently blaming the nicotene withdrawls for any and all mistakes I make for the remainder of the week.

Thanks for tracking good sir. It is a tragedy that the ardent listeners to sports talk on 670 the Score are forced to manually keep track of when their favorite hosts will be on air...or set out some SHARK chum for the information.

This is a freaking talk radio station. It is crazy we cannot find out when, and in cases of future remotes where, our favorite "talent" will be on air.


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