Kentucky Derby Future Wager Pool 3 FINAL ODDS

(No. Horse Trainer P1 odds P2 odds P3 odds)

1. American Pharoah B.Baffert 12-1 10-1 8-1

2. Bolo C.Gaines 3-5(f) 5-2(f) 33-1

3. Carpe Diem T.Pletcher 15-1 12-1 11-1

4. Danzig Moon M.Casse 3-5(f) 5-2(f) 41-1

5. Daredevil T.Pletcher 48-1 40-1 42-1

6. Dortmund B.Baffert 9-1 10-1 9-1

7. El Kabeir J.Terranova 74-1 39-1 46-1

8. Far From Over T.Pletcher 3-5(f) 5-2(f) 13-1

9. Far Right R.Moquett 3-5(f) 48-1 30-1

10. Firing Line S.Callaghan 3-5(f) 35-1 30-1

11. International Star M.Maker 3-5(f) 44-1 21-1

12. Itsaknockout T.Pletcher 3-5(f) 30-1 29-1

13. Keen Ice D.Romans 3-5(f) 5-2(f) 32-1

14. Khozan T.Pletcher 3-5(f) 25-1 13-1

15. Lord Nelson B.Baffert 72-1 41-1 40-1

16. Mr. Z W.Lukas 47-1 44-1 43-1

17. Ocean Knight K.McLaughlin 3-5(f) 18-1 23-1

18. Ocho Ocho Ocho J.Cassidy 29-1 26-1 24-1

19. Prospect Park C.Sise 3/5(f) 35-1 26-1

20. Texas Red K.Desormeaux 14-1 9-1 14-1

21. The Great War W.Ward 72-1 40-1 SCR

22. Upstart R.Violette 53-1 12-1 14-1

23. War Story T.Amoss 3-5(f) 5-2(f) 29-1

24. Field (all others) n/a 3-5 5-2 4-1

(f) – denotes field entry.

Win handle, $300,402

Exacta handle, $121,927

Total handle, $427,331 SPMACK DROPPING THE BALL

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Sorry WWN, I had a bad weekend that didn't get better until the last race at SA which was after the pool closed. I hit the $1 late P4.

Dortmund is running this in the San Felipe on Saturday.

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3 huge races this weekend including Dortmund in the San Felipe

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spmack, you got the PPs?

How about for the Big Cap?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Gotham
http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewe ... m3=1178775

TB Derby
http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewe ... m3=1861860

San Felipe
http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewe ... m3=1170715

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Big Cap
http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewe ... m3=1839695

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JORR, check out a horse today at Oaklawn Park around 3:45 today named Top Act for Wayne Catalano. First timer.

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Thanks!

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

showed nothing

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Here we go the San Felipe ...I think that last race took a lot out of Dortmund......so Lord Nelson. Ocho Ocho Ocho, and Bolo( want to see his Main Track form) exacta box and 10&10 on the Lord

The Gotham El Kabir gets another chane

Tampa Bay Carpe Diem the class of these


Big Cap love the hated Jim Rhome sticking it in peoples asses ...Shared Belief.Just watchin this one

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

I'm pretty much with you, Walt, except I think Ocean Knight is the real deal in the Tampa Bay Derby.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Walt, you always get me when I take my chances! Top Act was bet down to 5/2 so I wasn't the only one who thought that horse was next Cat man special.

Good luck today fellas, biggest day of the Derby season so far.

I like Lieutenant Colonel in the Gotham.
I like Divining Rod in the TB Derby.
I like Dortmund in the San Felipe.


I like Shared Belief in the Big Cap. That's the best horse going right now.

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Spmack my fellow BDH......comical touting a 1st starter $25,0000 maiden claimer...that's all.Like me betting Valhol a 30-1 maiden that won the Arkansas Derby he won I got paid but the jock had some batteries in his whip so it was a very shallow pay day

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Dortmund's a friggin beast

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

He gets better with every race.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Did you all see this potential monster?

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... -on-3-7-15

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No

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

I would worry about rateability with that horse. Look how angry that fucker was until he got the lead. He had his fuckin' ears pinned like he wanted to strike. As soon as he gets clear he's happier than hell. The ears go back up and he's flicking them gleefully. I don't think he's going to like being behind horses.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Here is my issue with Dortmund and maybe I'm looking for the reason to bet against him:

He hangs once he gets a lead to let the horses come back to him. He has enough talent to dominate a field. At some point, some horse will get a jump on him or have as much in that upper gear.

Yeah Baffert was saying that he's trying to teach him to stop letting horses come back to him. At this point though, who can beat him?

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Yeah, he's definitely a big lazy bastard, but he seems to be learning all the time. I like him better on or near the lead in a twenty horse field than having a boy ask him to start and stop in traffic. The problem he faces in the Derby is that there will almost certainly be better speed horses in there and even if he gets the lead late in the race, I could see his mind wandering as you mention.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

How about Far From Over or American Pharaoh?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

JORR those are the two I'm hearing the most. Far From Over or American Pharaoh.

El Kabeir looked good coming off the pace in The Gotham.

Don't laugh, but something tells me not to count out D.Wayne Lukas and Mr. Z.

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I had Balo and I thought when he ran up on him the race was mine. Thought wrong he sort of did a little shimmy and it was ova!

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Rebel Stakes. Let's see what American Pharaoh is all about. I'm interested in Madefromlucky.


http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewe ... m3=1591850

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Pharaoh and Truth or Else. Spmack I just don't like horses that come out of optional claimers,

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Walt, Pletcher did the same thing last year with Danza in the Ark Derby. Jumped him from a OC75k/n1x-N in previous race and he blew that field out at 40-1.

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Danza had some back class The Saratoga Special...this one MSW then OC I think it's too big of a jump in class

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

The thing he has going for him is that he's already won at the distance. Pharaoh is the only other horse that has and that was last year.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I just can't do a M/L of 1/2 on AP. Especially since he hasn't ran since September.

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