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Lazerus got in on the fun.

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Stunned for a second, but then I saw the "Barfstool". The signature "joke" of Sam Fels. The guy who failed to grow his audience so apparently he now writes for a company that went bankrupt. This guy has been making that joke ever since he blocked Big Cat and I in 2013. He has an axe to grind and it's that axe is down to a dull nub after a decade. It doesn't matter how much evidence there is to refute his claim, he still bangs the same lame drum. I mean Barstool has given a TON to charity. And when I say that I am of course talking about giving him and Deadspin clicks. The only time Deadspin seems to make any sort of ripple is when they're attacking Barstool. If Barstool can bring attention to a company bankrupt of both money and talent even for a second just imagine what they could do for a good product like the NWHL. I was going to pick apart portions of that article, but it's nothing except snark passed off as insight. I was actually disappointed that he did such a terrible job.

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Who is the " minor" being " attacked" that theyre referencing in the replies to Lazerus ?

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"Snark passed off as insight" I'm pretty sure describes Deadspin since time immemorial.


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The NWHL’s hands aren’t completely clean. They’ve had players appear on Barstool podcasts in the past, though the league seems to be going out of its way to prevent that from ever happening again. Player Saroya Tinker seems to be carrying what the players’ message will be from here on out, thankfully.


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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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The NWHL’s hands aren’t completely clean. They’ve had players appear on Barstool podcasts in the past, though the league seems to be going out of its way to prevent that from ever happening again. Player Saroya Tinker seems to be carrying what the players’ message will be from here on out, thankfully.


“ you know that giant sports media company that is the only one that gives us the time of day and has the number 1 hockey podcast ? Yeah , don’t go on there anymore “ seems to be a bold strategy .

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I am not a Barstool guy. I just started listening to some of their stuff. But I think they have the right approach to these Twitter mods, et al. Just do what you best, go to battle when you have to, and do not ever back down to their bullshit.

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Lizzo is the one artist who might span both poles of this debate. It feels like she should do this because of how big her following has become and how wide it spans

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Another note on the NWHL: if I'm not mistaken, it's a four-team circuit of New York, Boston, Buffalo, and Hartford. The teams play in community rinks or practice facilities -- I know the Buffalo team played at the Sabres' new annex. So right off the bat, even though any hockey fan will tell you that the game can only be truly appreciated in person, there are (or were) precious few opportunities to watch the league in person unless you live in the tri-state area, Buffalo, or Boston, all of which are fine hockey markets but hardly exhaustive. The league has a streaming TV deal, but again, we're talking about community rinks. Have you ever watched a Wolves@Rockford game on the U? It's a suboptimal telecast, and the MetroCentre is nearly a legitimate mid-market performance venue, not Johnny's Ice House.

So most people who purport to be avid NWHL fans would have to be watching these glorified fancams on their computers or phones, which is no way to watch hockey. Frankly, I think they're bluffing, because I'm a big hockey fan and I know I don't have the patience for that shit. I've tried to watch QMJHL games and I lose interest in about 15 minutes. In conclusion, no one watches this league, they just talk about it and talk about it and talk about talking about it.



Peoria’s minor league team got kicked out of the civic center a couple years back and had to play on the rink we played old man red league hockey on..I think the bleachers can hold 150 people and there was probably plenty of seats available. Can’t remember if it was ice capades, a monster truck rally, a Christian rock festival or an ag show that took precedence.. I’m kind of hoping it we a mashup of all 4.


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https://deadspin.com/five-artists-who-should-play-the-super-bowl-halftime-sh-1846134956/slides/5
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Lizzo is the one artist who might span both poles of this debate. It feels like she should do this because of how big her following has become and how wide it spans

hahaha


Slipping in the fat joke as an ode to Bernstein of yesteryear.

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Peoria’s minor league team got kicked out of the civic center a couple years back and had to play on the rink we played old man red league hockey on..I think the bleachers can hold 150 people and there was probably plenty of seats available. Can’t remember if it was ice capades, a monster truck rally, a Christian rock festival or an ag show that took precedence.. I’m kind of hoping it we a mashup of all 4.

It sucked that the Peoria Rivermen got busted down from the AHL because the Blues ownership ran out of money. It was nice seeing that town punch above its weight. Now the Rivs are in the SPHL, which basically is rec-league hockey, so maybe that rink was where that iteration of the team belonged.

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NWHL thinks they don't need Barstool. People on Twitter keep telling us how the game doesn't need a media company that reaches the under 40 demo because they have a partenrship to broadcast on Twitch, and that's where the under 40 demo is.

Let's see how they are doing there...


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Ouch, they peaked at 8,135 simultaneous viewers for their live broadcast.

Barstool Big Cat would stream himself playing an 8 year old PS3 game as "Coach Duggs" and would get a minimum of 100,000 simultaneous viewers per stream and would often top 250,000.

Yeah, NWHL totally doesn't need to tap into that audience. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The league fucking deserves to fail and I'll be rooting for its failure at this point.

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NWHL thinks they don't need Barstool. People on Twitter keep telling us how the game doesn't need a media company that reaches the under 40 demo because they have a partenrship to broadcast on Twitch, and that's where the under 40 demo is.

Let's see how they are doing there...


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Ouch, they peaked at 8,135 simultaneous viewers for their live broadcast.

Barstool Big Cat would stream himself playing an 8 year old PS3 game as "Coach Duggs" and would get a minimum of 100,000 simultaneous viewers per stream and would often top 250,000.

Yeah, NWHL totally doesn't need to tap into that audience. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The league fucking deserves to fail and I'll be rooting for its failure at this point.


Confirming my suspicion that most NWHL talk is more about fulfilling a social responsibility than an actual use of one's time. I'm not rooting for their failure, but their marketing plan has been a botch since day one and I don't think they'll survive being streaming-only.

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Peoria’s minor league team got kicked out of the civic center a couple years back and had to play on the rink we played old man red league hockey on..I think the bleachers can hold 150 people and there was probably plenty of seats available. Can’t remember if it was ice capades, a monster truck rally, a Christian rock festival or an ag show that took precedence.. I’m kind of hoping it we a mashup of all 4.

It sucked that the Peoria Rivermen got busted down from the AHL because the Blues ownership ran out of money. It was nice seeing that town punch above its weight. Now the Rivs are in the SPHL, which basically is rec-league hockey, so maybe that rink was where that iteration of the team belonged.



No... no one should play on the ice at the Owens Center. My favorite game was when they took too much ice off with the Zamboni and then added extra water which puddles at center ice.. somehow the rest of the rink was still grooved to hell. That said, The Rivermen have a decent logo.


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Curious Hair wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
NWHL thinks they don't need Barstool. People on Twitter keep telling us how the game doesn't need a media company that reaches the under 40 demo because they have a partenrship to broadcast on Twitch, and that's where the under 40 demo is.

Let's see how they are doing there...


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Ouch, they peaked at 8,135 simultaneous viewers for their live broadcast.

Barstool Big Cat would stream himself playing an 8 year old PS3 game as "Coach Duggs" and would get a minimum of 100,000 simultaneous viewers per stream and would often top 250,000.

Yeah, NWHL totally doesn't need to tap into that audience. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The league fucking deserves to fail and I'll be rooting for its failure at this point.


Confirming my suspicion that most NWHL talk is more about fulfilling a social responsibility than an actual use of one's time. I'm not rooting for their failure, but their marketing plan has been a botch since day one and I don't think they'll survive being streaming-only.

That's the great thing about an online only platform. They can't hide how bad their numbers are behind spin. It's all publicly available for anyone to locate. It's a fair bet that 90% of the people talking about the league and woke shaming people over it haven't watched a second of actual game action.

Those videos of Barstool's people sitting in an empty sportsbook watching games and cussing at the TV's when they lose money get 200k cumulative viewers. The highest rated NWHL cumulative viewer count is below 20k this week.

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No one has to wish for that women's hockey league to fail. Even it if wasn't run by idiots, it's a not viable business. There just is not a market for female team sports. If the WNBA with all of the marketing, TV contracts and NBA subsidies barely survives, how is this league going to make an impact? And their marketing plan seems to be only the right fan or partners can support us. That's not a strategy.

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Yeah. That's the thing that gets lost on the Julie's of the world.

It's not that we hate women, we just don't want to watch them play sports. Christ, even women don't want to watch women play sports.

It's just the way it is. Why can't we just accept this?


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No one has to wish for that women's hockey league to fail. Even it if wasn't run by idiots, it's a not viable business. There just is not a market for female team sports. If the WNBA with all of the marketing, TV contracts and NBA subsidies barely survives, how is this league going to make an impact? And their marketing plan seems to be only the right fan or partners can support us. That's not a strategy.



There's this underlying idea that women have a "right" to make a living playing sports that nobody wants to watch.

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Lazerus got in on the fun.



Of course these people assume ill intentions by others. They know themselves and their own ill intentions and believe that everyone must be as terrible as they are.

And I guarantee that Portnoy is a better person than Sam Fels by any measure you want to use.

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Portnoy just went scorched earth :lol:

https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1354287668247588864?s=21

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Since it didn't embed...
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This Pres video will get more viewers than the entirety of the NWHL's season.

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Video was too long.

Say fuck you and be done.

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Video was too long.

Say fuck you and be done.

I do like the idea of them starting their own league and destroying the other league. Put it out in Worcester or Providence with four teams, triple round robin, 100k extra to the winning team.

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Willie Colon obviously suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

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No one has to wish for that women's hockey league to fail. Even it if wasn't run by idiots, it's a not viable business. There just is not a market for female team sports. If the WNBA with all of the marketing, TV contracts and NBA subsidies barely survives, how is this league going to make an impact? And their marketing plan seems to be only the right fan or partners can support us. That's not a strategy.



There's this underlying idea that women have a "right" to make a living playing sports that nobody wants to watch.


This is truth. Nobody seems to start from the assumption that no one should be making a living playing sport. It's just a very short blip in human history where this has been possible. We aren't far removed from even the big sports players having to take side jobs and nobody below the major league level kin any US sport can support themselves on athletics alone.

These people have never run a business. You do what you have to do until you can do what you want to do.

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