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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:47 pm 
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Mel Daniels criticizes Terry Boers and Dan Bernstein regarding their opinions that the white players he drafted while Player Personnel Director for the Pacers not being able to play basketball at a high level.
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Good interview, funniest quote regarding a player he drafted when under pressure: "More likely to throw the ball in the stands and jump in the basket."


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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 8:23 am 
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Do you ever feel embarrassed for yourself, or is it sufficient that others feel embarrassed for you?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Seriously, though. Who cares? Mel Daniels didn't challenge them on their show, so this is essentially him ripping them?

I'm sure that's riveting.

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 9:39 am 
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I would never draft a white player in the lottery. I would feel pretty good about this decision too. Can you name any decent white lottery picks since Larry Bird?

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Isn't Mel Daniels the guy that infamously shouted "You should just SMILE and BLOW me!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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Isn't Mel Daniels the guy that infamously shouted "You should just SMILE and BLOW me!!!!!!!!!!!!"



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I would never draft a white player in the lottery. I would feel pretty good about this decision too. Can you name any decent white lottery picks since Larry Bird?




kevin love?

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I would never draft a white player in the lottery. I would feel pretty good about this decision too. Can you name any decent white lottery picks since Larry Bird?




kevin love?


He's better than decent, obviously. And who would be aiming for a "decent" player in the lottery, DB?

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This definitely needed its own topic.

There should be a section called the landfill for this stuff, CGS's thoughts on life and all caps topics.

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Douchebag wrote:
I would never draft a white player in the lottery. I would feel pretty good about this decision too. Can you name any decent white lottery picks since Larry Bird?


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I'm pretty sure DB said that toungue in cheek, guys.

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Smart money says Pacers draft Meyers Leonard.

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This definitely needed its own topic.

There should be a section called the landfill for this stuff, CGS's thoughts on life and all caps topics.


:lol: :lol: Love it .... love it

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Since I am not going to bother listening to your interview, I decided to look into Mel Daniels' idea that some of the white players he drafted while player personal of the Pacers might have actually been good. Combined between all of them, they have 1 Allstar game appearance, and many flops.

These are all of Mel Daniels white draft picks from 1986 to 2009, the years that he was in charge of the Pacers' drafts. In years where there were more than 2 rounds, I have only included white draft picks picked up in those rounds because none of those guys have Wikipedia pages, so I am guessing they sucked and didn't have an NBA career. Forgive me if I am wrong.

1986-Greg Dreiling (2.1 points per game, 10 year NBA career)
1988-Rik Smits (2nd overall, 12 year NBA career, 1 time NBA Allstar)
1992-Scott Haskin (14th overall, 1 NBA season, 2.0 points per game)
1994-Damon Bailey (played 0 NBA games)
1995-Eric Piatkowski (15th overall; averaged 7.5 points per game)
1997-Mark Pope (averaged 1.9 points per game)
1998-Austin Croshere (drafted 12th overall, averaged 6.8 points per game)
2000-Primož Brezec (averaged 7.2 points per game and 3.9 rebounds; currently playing for BC Nizhny Novgorod, Russia. Last played in NBA in 20)
2004-Erazem Lorbek (never played in the NBA, currently playing for FC Barcelona)
2009-Tyler Hansbrough (13th overall, currently sitting on bench)

I am a complete NBA idiot; however, this looks like a bad list.


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:22 am 
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Rik Smits is the only good player on that list. And its pretty hard to miss with a 7'4" giant.

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i don't disagree with not wanting to draft white players ...most are not good...love and dirk are rare ...more are like adam morrison and eric montross than dirk/love.

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i don't disagree with not wanting to draft white players ...most are not good...love and dirk are rare ...more are like adam morrison and eric montross than dirk/love.


Why not make a list of black players drafted too? I'm just going to guess that most of them are also "not good".

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312player wrote:
i don't disagree with not wanting to draft white players ...most are not good...love and dirk are rare ...more are like adam morrison and eric montross than dirk/love.


Why not make a list of black players drafted too? I'm just going to guess that most of them are also "not good".


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
312player wrote:
i don't disagree with not wanting to draft white players ...most are not good...love and dirk are rare ...more are like adam morrison and eric montross than dirk/love.


Why not make a list of black players drafted too? I'm just going to guess that most of them are also "not good".

Because that wouldn't be as humorous.

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