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 Post subject: Dumb sport rules
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:46 pm 
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So yesterday I heard Mac try to persuade the audience that Hockey's rule of ending a game at the end of the 20 minute period, while a powerplay is in progress is a dumb rule.
He thinks that the game should be extended until the completion of the powerplay. :shock:

What color is the sky in your world Mac?
Or as B&B would say, "are you Hockey retarded?"
Can't you see the problem you're creating?
What happens when a team commits another penalty while in the extended time? Do you keep playing until all powerplays are completed?
Theoretically you are creating a scenario of an endless game.
If I'm a goal behind with 5 seconds left, I commit an intentional penalty to at least give myself a chance to score a shorty and tie it up. Then I do it again, and again, and again...

It's a shame that CXL is DOA cause you get a huge thumb down for that suggestion.

BTW,
What's your suggestion for 1/2 the distance to the goal penalties in football? I mean shouldn't the team get the full benefit of the penalty yardage. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb sport rules
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#1)Soccer has extra time after regulation but before overtime.
#2)Soccer sucks

therefore

Any game that has extra time after regulation but before overtime sucks.

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb sport rules
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nice, Rob.

"by rule...since line of scrimmage is at the -7 yard line, the offense only needs to complete the center-quarterback exchange to score a touchdown."

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb sport rules
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The half court inbounds was a great point by a caller


I always thought it was stupid that a manager cannot aruge balls and strikes. I'm not saying that they should be able to go out every inning and throw a tantrum, but if they have a legit beef with an ump, managers should be able to ask him about the strike zone

Both teams need to get an offensive posession in NFL's overtime

Coaches calling a timeout like 2 milliseconds before a FG is kicked at the end of a half/game/OT is ridiculous

Batters being granted timeout at the plate when a pitcher is already starting his windup. Such BS that one is

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb sport rules
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
#1)Soccer has extra time after regulation but before overtime.
#2)Soccer sucks

therefore

Any game that has extra time after regulation but before overtime sucks.

Boilermaker, for the record, soccer is the only sport I know where the referee keeps the time on the field, so the clocks in the stadium & on TV mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! This from someone who worked the Chicago Fire home games in front of half-empty Soldier Field for 2 years before they moved to TOYOTA Park. Here's another dumb sports rule, the designated hitter! I heard "Tirico & Van Pelt" with guest co-host Michele Tafoya mentioned it yesterday before Game 1 of the World Series between the Phillies & Rays. While the DH benefitted the likes of Edgar Martinez, Frank Thomas & Jim Thome and extended their careers, I've also heard that the DH makes players one-dimensional as well.


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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Both teams need to get an offensive posession in NFL's overtime

Batters being granted timeout at the plate when a pitcher is already starting his windup. Such BS that one is



coin flip....hmmm...

don't agree about the batter, with the umpire factor and all..

football refs keep time on the field as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb sport rules
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
I always thought it was stupid that a manager cannot aruge balls and strikes


Funny,
I always thought it was stupid that they are allowed to argue all the other calls. :oops:

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Mustang Rob wrote:
If I'm a goal behind with 5 seconds left, I commit an intentional penalty to at least give myself a chance to score a shorty and tie it up. Then I do it again, and again, and again...


I think you could negate the situation when the winning team would have the power play.

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb sport rules
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Mustang Rob wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I always thought it was stupid that a manager cannot aruge balls and strikes


Funny,
I always thought it was stupid that they are allowed to argue all the other calls. :oops:


Has a call ever been reversed after a manager argued?

Stupidest unwritten rule - bench-clearing "brawls" in baseball. Make it like the NBA, you leave the dugout or your position, you're booted from the game.

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb sport rules
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Stupidest unwritten rule - bench-clearing "brawls" in baseball. Make it like the NBA, you leave the dugout or your position, you're booted from the game.


Leaving the dugout? Yes, very stupid, and should merit a suspension. But leaving your position? I dunno...it would make for some interesting explanations as for why the center fielder was rushing to the mound...

We were putting the Thome shift on...honestly...


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb sport rules
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Here's a personal beef-

In football, any defender so much as touches the ball-carriers facemask, it's a penalty. I understand that part. If lineman or DB's hit/grab each other's facemask, it's a penalty for "hands to the face". Got it - I understand. So how the hell ball carrier is allowed to stiff arm in the face, which is usually more like a strong punch, I'll never understand. makes no sense.

Also - "off-setting" penalties are usually pretty stupid.

Sp are the idiots that are allowed to run up to a pile after a fumble and pull people off without even attempting to get the ball.

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb sport rules
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Killer V wrote:

Stupidest unwritten rule - bench-clearing "brawls" in baseball. Make it like the NBA, you leave the dugout or your position, you're booted from the game.


Leaving the dugout? Yes, very stupid, and should merit a suspension. But leaving your position? I dunno...it would make for some interesting explanations as for why the center fielder was rushing to the mound...

We were putting the Thome shift on...honestly...


It's all I could come up with to combat the whole 1 batter vs 9 fielders situation....

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Along with that one spanky, getting rid of the 5 yard facemask was incredibly stupid. There are times when, believe it or not, a defender grabs a ball carriers facemask on accident. When that happens, it should not be a 15 yard penalty.

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the rules in the NFL have pussified everything that i loved about it growing up...can't do shit anymore on defense. tackling is a lost art.


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb sport rules
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Killer V wrote:
It's all I could come up with to combat the whole 1 batter vs 9 fielders situation....


Well, now that you put it that way, I'm forced to disagree with my original statement...

Damn you Killer V...damn you and your fucking logic...there's no place for that shit here... :lol:


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Along with that one spanky, getting rid of the 5 yard facemask was incredibly stupid. There are times when, believe it or not, a defender grabs a ball carriers facemask on accident. When that happens, it should not be a 15 yard penalty.

Yeah, I was gonna say that too, but I have to pace myself. There are a lot of rules I could add to this list.

Such as - Football Penalties near/in the endzone:

they are far too punitive for the defensive team, IMO. A defender commits a penalty (interference) in their own endzone, ball placed on the one AND it becomes 1st down - becoming an almost automatic TD. Offensive penalties? Just yardage - no loss of downs for the most part.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Along with that one spanky, getting rid of the 5 yard facemask was incredibly stupid. There are times when, believe it or not, a defender grabs a ball carriers facemask on accident. When that happens, it should not be a 15 yard penalty.


I agree with your main point, but do you think there are times when people tackle by the facemask on purpose? I think they just happen to grab the facemask and some yanking is more flagrant than others.

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb sport rules
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When an onside kick goes out of bounds and the kicking team gets a 5 yard penalty and re-kicks. What do they care about 5 yards for? Why give them another chance whe they screwed up the first one?


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When an onside kick goes out of bounds and the kicking team gets a 5 yard penalty and re-kicks. What do they care about 5 yards for? Why give them another chance whe they screwed up the first one?



I thought that a kick off that goes out of bounds results in the receiving team getting the ball at the 40 yard line. Didn't realize there was a different rule for onside kicks.


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W_Z wrote:
the rules in the NFL have pussified everything that i loved about it growing up...can't do shit anymore on defense. tackling is a lost art.


Agreed.


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After 2 pickoff attempts the pitcher should have to come to the plate.
It would make stolen bases more common and exciting.


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The ground can't cause a fumble


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IMO, an offensive holding penalty s/b 5 yards rather than 10. They're too subjective, too frequent and too often drive killers.

Also - while it is not a "dumb rule" issue - whatever happened to the coffin corner kick? It was a staple in the 70's and 80's. Now everything is kick it inside the 20....boring.

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Last 2 minutes of an NFL game, any loss of yardage should mean a stop of the clock if you are the team in the lead. This would eliminate taking a knee.


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After 2 pickoff attempts the pitcher should have to come to the plate.
It would make stolen bases more common and exciting.

What would be the penalty if he does not? Ball and a free base? So I could go, pickoff, pickoff, pitchout, pickoff, pickoff, pitchout and just be down 2-0 and possibly get the runner stealing 2nd? I don't think there are that many times that someone tries more than 2 pickoff attempts in a row (yes, I have seen them occasionally, but they don't even happen once a game on average.)

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Touchback rule in football. If it does not go out of the endzone, play on.

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Last 2 minutes of an NFL game, any loss of yardage should mean a stop of the clock if you are the team in the lead. This would eliminate taking a knee.


I like that one. That would make things more interesting.

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Get rid of the 2 ref system in the NHL.Too many guys on the ice already and some games have as many as 19 to 24 power plays a game. It slows the game down with all the whistles and hockey is meant to be a 5 on 5 sport and most nights since the 2 ref system it's a 5 on 4 game for 20 minutes a night.

Almost 23,000 at the UC on Saturday night and the Hawks had an 8 to 3 advantage on the powerplay and the game was as good as it can get without 11 whistles to stop the flow of the game that night.

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