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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:35 am 
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Jeff Baker, Blake Dewitt- 2 good utility guys, get a prospect save some money

Dempster- People like him he has been solid lately.

Kerry Wood - This one is interesting. Very little money, he isn't going anywhere long term, but maybe he goes for 1 month for some prospects, then comes home?

Marmol - I am aware save guys dont bring big bounties usually. A big part of that is that a good team usually already has a good save guy. He only goes if a great deal is made.

Pena- Anyone want him?

Soriano- Someone in the AL need a DH? 50% off

Fukudome- Actually been pretty impressive this year.

Z- Nobody is taking him.

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 Post subject: Re: Cub Trade parts
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No one will take Dempster. Too bad contracty. Same with Soriano.

Per the hot sheets, "no one has called the Cubs about Zambrano."


Marmol and Dome are the only two I think would be coveted and could get a decent return. Better hurry on Dome, I don't think his OBP will get any higher.


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Kerry Wood - This one is interesting. Very little money, he isn't going anywhere long term, but maybe he goes for 1 month for some prospects, then comes home?



Can someone tell me why the hell I should care whether or not Kerry Wood COMES HOME? He is on the DL - AGAIN with a Gdamn blister. Go away & stay away. We don't need another "loveable LOSER" mascot around this team.

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He's been pretty good this year and comes cheap. If you take into account production and contract status, he probably is one of the best values we have.


Although I understand wanting to get rid of anything from this era and start completely fresh.

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 Post subject: Re: Cub Trade parts
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Per the hot sheets, "no one has called the Cubs about Zambrano."




I saw an article a couple days ago I think on CBS Sportsline saying the Yankees were very interested in Z.

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He's been pretty good this year and comes cheap. If you take into account production and contract status, he probably is one of the best values we have.


Although I understand wanting to get rid of anything from this era and start completely fresh.



I agree. My problem is with the "coming home" crap and keeping him associated with the team after his career and all that type of BS. We have enough of that crap.

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The Z to the Yankees talk is almost as bad as the perpetual Brian Roberts trade a while back.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Z to the Yankees talk is almost as bad as the perpetual Brian Roberts trade a while back.


You need to be worried about when Paulie gets traded to the Angels. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Cub Trade parts
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RFDC wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Z to the Yankees talk is almost as bad as the perpetual Brian Roberts trade a while back.


You need to be worried about when Paulie gets traded to the Angels. :wink:

Or when Buehrle finally goes to St. Louis.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
The Z to the Yankees talk is almost as bad as the perpetual Brian Roberts trade a while back.


Nothing is as bad as the Brian Roberts trade coverage.

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Bucky Chris wrote:
Per the hot sheets, "no one has called the Cubs about Zambrano."




I saw an article a couple days ago I think on CBS Sportsline saying the Yankees were very interested in Z.


Yea, they aren't. That idea was shot down hard. And Buster said very literally "no one has called" on Z.


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I doubt anyone other than Byrd gets moved and he has to get his face fixed first.

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Kerry Wood - This one is interesting. Very little money, he isn't going anywhere long term, but maybe he goes for 1 month for some prospects, then comes home?



Can someone tell me why the hell I should care whether or not Kerry Wood COMES HOME? He is on the DL - AGAIN with a Gdamn blister. Go away & stay away. We don't need another "loveable LOSER" mascot around this team.


The guy has maybe another 3-4 years left as a solid bullpen guy, but he wants to be in chicago, thus will sign a series of $1M deals. I don't care if he is here or not, but love the fact they could Rent the guy basically for a good prospect, then he comes back each year and we can do it again next year.

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 Post subject: Re: Cub Trade parts
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but love the fact they could Rent the guy basically for a good prospect, then he comes back each year and we can do it again next year.



i dont...it would make the back of his baseball card look ugly..besides, the guy would be dizzy from all the back n forth...the guy deserves a consistent home...not like ur gonna get any decent prospects for him anyway

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 Post subject: Re: Cub Trade parts
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Kerry Wood - This one is interesting. Very little money, he isn't going anywhere long term, but maybe he goes for 1 month for some prospects, then comes home?

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Peter Gammons says so, almost as good as Steve stone telling you

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but love the fact they could Rent the guy basically for a good prospect, then he comes back each year and we can do it again next year.



i dont...it would make the back of his baseball card look ugly..besides, the guy would be dizzy from all the back n forth...the guy deserves a consistent home...not like ur gonna get any decent prospects for him anyway



Right, which is Chicago. Where is home, family, kids are etc. It's why he took less money to come here

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 Post subject: Re: Cub Trade parts
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What does Pena have to do to draw high draft pick compensation if he leaves in free agency?

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What does Pena have to do to draw high draft pick compensation if he leaves in free agency?

I was wondering the same thing with Aram since he has been blowing up lately. It depends on their ranking amongst free agents of the same position. They both have to command at least class b compensation.

Lance Berkman is fucking things up quite nicely right now though for Pena to be a type a free agent. Pujols is there as well and so is Ortiz. The 3rd base group sucks though so Aram should be a type A....so the cubs can draft another fucking Hayden Simpson.

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Pena currently qualifies as a type B free agent which means if the Cubs offer him arbitration and he refuses they get a compensation pick between the first and second rounds.

Not sure if the Cubs would risk offering arbitration because with Boras it's really hard to figure what he would do.


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What does Pena have to do to draw high draft pick compensation if he leaves in free agency?

I was wondering the same thing with Aram since he has been blowing up lately. It depends on their ranking amongst free agents of the same position. They both have to command at least class b compensation.

Lance Berkman is fucking things up quite nicely right now though for Pena to be a type a free agent. Pujols is there as well and so is Ortiz. The 3rd base group sucks though so Aram should be a type A....so the cubs can draft another fucking Hayden Simpson.

I think a club must offer arbitration to get compensation and that is not a given with A Ram.


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What does Pena have to do to draw high draft pick compensation if he leaves in free agency?

I was wondering the same thing with Aram since he has been blowing up lately. It depends on their ranking amongst free agents of the same position. They both have to command at least class b compensation.

Lance Berkman is fucking things up quite nicely right now though for Pena to be a type a free agent. Pujols is there as well and so is Ortiz. The 3rd base group sucks though so Aram should be a type A....so the cubs can draft another fucking Hayden Simpson.

I think a club must offer arbitration to get compensation and that is not a given with A Ram.

shit...forgot about that part

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Jeff Baker....untouchable according to Mastermind Hendry.

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Unless the Cubs are going to go after Fielder, offering Pena arbitration might not be out of the question. It doesnt seem as if anyone from the minors is ready to take on the position. Unless they want to try handing it over to Colvin, arbitration may well be offered to Pena.

I see Ramirez and Pena drawing interest, along with Wood and possibly Baker.

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Unless the Cubs are going to go after Fielder, offering Pena arbitration might not be out of the question. It doesnt seem as if anyone from the minors is ready to take on the position. Unless they want to try handing it over to Colvin, arbitration may well be offered to Pena.

I see Ramirez and Pena drawing interest, along with Wood and possibly Baker.


Ridling at 1b is hitting very well, but he was never supposed to be a prospect. I think he is over .300 with 15 and 50 in AA. He is a righty though...he is also not someone elses throw away like Lahair (who is still raking). Ridling isn't that old. He is where he should be for his age.

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