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Nas

Post subject: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:09 pm

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How disappointing has he been since 2016?

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:10 pm

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In his defense he's been hurt every year after 2016.

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Crick Ramp

Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:17 pm

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HawaiiYou wrote:

In his defense he's been hurt every year after 2016.

In his defense, 2016 was an aberration. Just like Harpers MVP year. History is littered with players who had a one off MVP year in their early to mid 20s then leveled out.

He’s still very good. .285/.380/.990 is very solid

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:26 pm

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I was thinking all time great player after his first 2 seasons.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:28 pm

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not as good as Aramis Ramirez

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:28 pm

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timmyholton wrote:

not as good as Aramis Ramirez

Agreed. Especially after May

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:32 pm

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I agree. I’d rather have ARam.

It’s one of those things though..KB has a higher OBP and WAR year in and year out..so far. And is more versatile. And oh yeah was an MVP and deservedly so on a World Series team.

Buuuuuuut....Ramirez somehow still seems like the correct choice. The metrics love KB but who do you want at the plate day in and day out. I’ll take Aramis.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:36 pm

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Crick Ramp wrote:

Don’t tell me what you hit , tell me when you hit them. (312 Player excepted )

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:39 pm

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badrogue17 wrote:

Crick Ramp wrote:

Don’t tell me what you hit , tell me when you hit them. (312 Player excepted )

I agree. But go peruse KBs splits..late and close he’s above average.

I’d still take Aramis. But that criticism of KB is unfair statistically

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:48 pm

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KB’s defensive versatility puts him over ARam, but man Ramirez was a clutch hitter.

Prolly juiced up tho.

Also, should have traded KB for Arenado in the off-season, but who knows how that would have affected team chemistry.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:54 pm

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Aramis wasn't as bad as a defender as people think

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:24 pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:27 pm

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KB gets all his love due to where he was picked and Cubs and Score hype. He’s hardly Robin Ventura when all said and done.

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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:30 pm

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pittmike wrote:

KB gets all his love due to where he was picked and Cubs and Score hype. He’s hardly Robin Ventura when all said and done.

First round pick, MVP and World Series winner. Not many saviors come to fruition.

Getting hit in the head in 2018 is when things starting turning for the worse.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:32 pm

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conns7901 wrote:

pittmike wrote:

KB gets all his love due to where he was picked and Cubs and Score hype. He’s hardly Robin Ventura when all said and done.

First round pick, MVP and World Series winner. Not many saviors come to fruition.

Getting hit in the head in 2018 is when things starting turning for the worse.

Yes he did all of that. But by the end... years from now... Ventura.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:34 pm

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conns7901 wrote:

pittmike wrote:

KB gets all his love due to where he was picked and Cubs and Score hype. He’s hardly Robin Ventura when all said and done.

First round pick, MVP and World Series winner. Not many saviors come to fruition.

Getting hit in the head in 2018 is when things starting turning for the worse.

Yes, he has never been the same after getting hit in the head. Sammy also didn't have the same confidence at the plate after he returned from getting hit in the head. I believe Andre Dawson also flinched at a lot of pitches after he got hit as well.

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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:51 pm

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Who? KB?

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:23 pm

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If they are lucky, they can trade him for Clevinger in the off-season. The Indians outfield is pathetic so he can primarily move to RF and back up at 3B/1B/DH. If they are out of it next July, the Indians can trade him for prospects and reboot.

The Indians will be desperate to unload Clevinger, who with this demotion may not even hit 4 years of service time. So that's 3 years of arbitration control for him and he can slot into the #3 behind Darvish and Hendricks.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:24 pm

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Not a bad idea Chet.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:07 pm

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Injured again. You can't give him Darvish money at this point.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:

If they are lucky, they can trade him for Clevinger in the off-season.

That would be nice, but you might not have that much time.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:18 pm

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Nas wrote:

Injured again. You can't give him Darvish money at this point.

He bet on himself and probably lost. More injuries and COVID impacts on the league. I can't see anybody giving him more than 70% of what Rendon got.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:06 pm

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Crick Ramp wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

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Who? KB?

Yes. One great season, and the rest of his Chicago career has been littered with injuries and relatively disappointing statistics.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:21 pm

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The Alshon Jeffery of the Cubs. Always seems to be something wrong.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

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Another good comp.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:17 pm

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Is Happ better and more valuable than Bryant? I kinda think he is.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:00 pm

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Bobfrom815 wrote:

Is Happ better and more valuable than Bryant? I kinda think he is.

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:50 am

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the league has figured him out
yes, getting hit in the head seems to affect players. Look at Heyward as well
he keeps getting hurt

anyone noticed the eye twitch?

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Post subject: Re: Kris Bryant?

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:09 pm

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Douchebag wrote:

Bobfrom815 wrote:

Is Happ better and more valuable than Bryant? I kinda think he is.

Kasper and JD just agreed Happ has been the best player on the team this season.

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