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 Post subject: Zach LaVine
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:56 pm 
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At how much per year do you let him walk as a restricted free agent? I feel like some dumb ass team will offer him 20 million or more because many NBA teams are stupid. I say let him walk on anything over 15 million.

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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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16-18.

He’s not signing for less than 20 though. If you think 15 is the number just consider him gone or be mad now.

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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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FavreFan wrote:
16-18.

He’s not signing for less than 20 though. If you think 15 is the number just consider him gone or be mad now.


I think he is a guy that bad teams overpay every summer and is not a difference maker.

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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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conns7901 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
16-18.

He’s not signing for less than 20 though. If you think 15 is the number just consider him gone or be mad now.


I think he is a guy that bad teams overpay every summer and is not a difference maker.

Teams are getting better about that and there’s not many with the ability to offer him a lot. Our best hope is Atlanta and the Kings. Atlanta’s new GM is unknown and Sacramento’s FO is a known disaster and they have cap room. I think we’re gonna resign him though, especially if tonight’s moves are any indication. And it will without a doubt be for more than $15 mil unless HawaiiYou is his agent.

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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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hard to say. last year was a recovery year.. hes young enough to not have peaked yet... and he did show the injury doesnt seem to effect his game... there were some games he looked incredible. this isnt a drose situation. he could still be a top 10 player this year... unlikely, but its not out of the question at this point.

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IkeSouth wrote:
he could still be a top 10 player this year... unlikely, but its not out of the question at this point.


I think it is out of the question.

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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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FF, if healthy, what should we expect out of LaVine stat wise?

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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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denisdman wrote:
FF, if healthy, what should we expect out of LaVine stat wise?

A plus/minus under 0.

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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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he looked terrible to me on the rare occasion I watched. But there is a salary minimum. gotta spend it on something.

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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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Hatchetman wrote:
he looked terrible to me on the rare occasion I watched. But there is a salary minimum. gotta spend it on something.

A lot of better players that are free agents. You could sign two valuable players for whatever he makes plus a little bit more to get to the floor.

Isaiah Thomas and Tyreke Evans or something similar:

Starting 5:

Robin Lopez
Lauri Markkanen
Bobby Portis
Tyreke Evans
Kris Dunn

Bench:

Wendell Carter Jr
Cristiano Felicio
Chandler Hutchison
Denzel Valentine
Isaiah Thomas
Cam Payne
Jerian Grant
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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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so what you are saying is that there are irrational actors out there that will pay a premium for a bum like lavine? Its possible I guess.

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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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Hatchetman wrote:
so what you are saying is that there are irrational actors out there that will pay a premium for a bum like lavine? Its possible I guess.

The Knicks have a history of overpaying for former Bulls.

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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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Knicks make too much sense.


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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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denisdman wrote:
FF, if healthy, what should we expect out of LaVine stat wise?

Dependent on the situation but something like 20-4-4 with good shooting percentages is a reasonable expectation imo.

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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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there has to be some negative effect on the other four players when that guy is hogging the ball and taking crappy shots even if he did make a fair share of them. I just don't see him ever being any good.

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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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Hatchetman wrote:
there has to be some negative effect on the other four players when that guy is hogging the ball and taking crappy shots even if he did make a fair share of them. I just don't see him ever being any good.

There is, and it shows up a bit in the non traditional stats and metrics as IMU referenced. He also doesnt play any defense.

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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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Did anyone hear the Paxson interview today? Bernstein keeps making it sound like they are going to walk away from Lavine.

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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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he could still be a top 10 player this year... unlikely, but its not out of the question at this point.


I think it is out of the question.


not according to him

https://www.nba.com/bulls/features/zach ... l-im-stage

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conns7901 wrote:
Did anyone hear the Paxson interview today? Bernstein keeps making it sound like they are going to walk away from Lavine.


bernstein also eats dog feces at cheap wine tasting events

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IkeSouth wrote:
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Did anyone hear the Paxson interview today? Bernstein keeps making it sound like they are going to walk away from Lavine.


bernstein also eats dog feces at cheap wine tasting events


Of which breed(s)?

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 Post subject: Re: Zach LaVine
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Side note, this guy may be dumber than Frank
http://www.nba.com/article/2017/06/27/c ... -direction
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LaVine has a youthful sense of energy and wonder – he initially thought the body of water beyond his hotel window was an ocean, not Lake Michigan


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