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But you said yourself that you've been hearing this is a scam.


one person who has been through similar issues, has emailed me his thoughts.

The bite marks stood out to him seeing it would provide actual evidence.

He does think it is a close to a guilty confession if such bite marks exist and are confirmed to be Kane. then she says he did so without consent.

I am sure there is much more of a legal aspect of why this Lawer thought so, but he didnt email me a writeup on it. yet, I will take his legal opinion over that of Beardown and Beardown.


Well, I disagree with him is all. People do bite during consensual sex. I know I'm not a lawyer but that could be a plausible argument in court. I don't think I have to be a lawyer to know that a jury could see that as reasonable.


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This doesn't have much to do with anything, but with this coming up, I decided to go back and take a look at the Kobe case. In the process, I came across this 'freestyle rap' by his accuser, which may actually be the cringiest thing ever. Seriously, it is worth a look.


That may be the weirdest thing ever posted on this board.

Honestly, I challenge anyone to find anything more ridiculous/cringeworthy than that. I honestly can't come up with a parallel.

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MY SOURCE, who would NEVER go Public with this, has said from day 1, he felt it was all too contrived.

He based nothing on the facts of the case, just the scenario, that he has been in before...and has kept things quiet. Eventually, things did spin out of control and all the work he did was for nothing...but he is an agent, he has seen this stuff before and his opinion from Day 1 was he felt it was a setup.

He then added, that you can say that publicly, because somehow that gets twisted into you are OK with rape in general.


"He based nothing on the facts of this case..."

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All aboard the smear train!


I don't think that's actually a smear of anyone but Kane considering these other athletes never raped her.

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All aboard the smear train!


I don't think that's actually a smear of anyone but Kane considering these other athletes never raped her.


I doubt Kane has ever raped anyone.

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All aboard the smear train!


I don't think that's actually a smear of anyone but Kane considering these other athletes never raped her.


I doubt Kane has ever raped anyone.


Not going there....

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I doubt Kane has ever raped anyone.


Not going there....


Thank heavens for "All Information is alleged and 100% Unreliable"

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All aboard the smear train!


I don't think that's actually a smear of anyone but Kane considering these other athletes never raped her.


I doubt Kane has ever raped anyone.


I don't know Patrick Kane from Adam. He might be Charles Manson in his spare time.

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I doubt Kane has ever raped anyone.


Not going there....


Thank heavens for "All Information is alleged and 100% Unreliable"


I think at this point the only info that seems reliable IMO is...

-Girl is in her 20s
-girl was drunk at bar
-girl was all over Kane at bar
-girl went willingly to after party at Kane's house
-girl contacted family member after leaving Kane's house
-girl immediately cancelled social media accounts
-girl immediately went to hospital for rape kit
-girl had a scratch and bite mark


That's pretty much all the reliable evidence we know so far.

Other "evidence" that doesn't appear to be reliable enough to accept a fact...

-girl was on Molly at the bar
-girl has already asked for $1-$2 million from Kane
-girl is a known star-fucker
-girl went into room at Kane's house and Kane followed her in



Based on the above I see a worst case scenario being he is charged with rape and the State has zero chance of proving it in court. Best case scenario this is another Drew Doughty situation.

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I don't know Patrick Kane from Adam. He might be Charles Manson in his spare time.


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looks more like Dahmer than Manson.

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I don't know Patrick Kane from Adam. He might be Charles Manson in his spare time.


ok

Did you believe Cosby was as bad as he is after the initial allegation shakes?

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I don't know Patrick Kane from Adam. He might be Charles Manson in his spare time.


ok

Did you believe Cosby was as bad as he is after the initial allegation shakes?



When I first heard about Cosby it was in relation to more than one victim so yes.

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Her name is known. Only a matter of time before everybody knows it. Pictures will be coming too.

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Probably not hard to find a ex buffalo university or whatever cheerleader that was a psych major and dated other pro athletes.

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http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/hamburg/alleged-victim-reportedly-went-to-kanes-home-to-accompany-friend-20150812

So the one claiming rape was not the drunk at the bar, but the friend that went with her. That's not good.

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http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/hamburg/alleged-victim-reportedly-went-to-kanes-home-to-accompany-friend-20150812

So the one claiming rape was not the drunk at the bar, but the friend that went with her. That's not good.


Uh oh. So the drunk friend was probably the one hanging over Kaner at the bar from what the bar owner said. This girl was the one watching out for her friend.

Speculation: Maybe the drunk girl was passed out leaving Kaner with only one option.

Yeah. Not good. And this is from a legit source.


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Once again, let me go back to the bite marks issue. Strong evidence of unwanted contact. Unless she is one of those many people that Beardown knows that enjoy being bitten during sex?

I also would not blame her for taking a settlement and getting the fuck out of town. Her life is ruined there, innocent or guilty for PK.

So how much does one ask for?

$5 mill for Bite Marks? pretty sure you dont pay taxes on PI issues? LAWERS? But you pay on Puntive and other such claims?

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Once again, let me go back to the bite marks issue. Strong evidence of unwanted contact. Unless she is one of those many people that Beardown knows that enjoy being bitten during sex?

I also would not blame her for taking a settlement and getting the fuck out of town. Her life is ruined there, innocent or guilty for PK.

So how much does one ask for?

$5 mill for Bite Marks? pretty sure you dont pay taxes on PI issues? LAWERS? But you pay on Puntive and other such claims?


Ok. You're on me for this. But did he take a huge bite out of her? Then I'm on that lawyer's side. But little bite marks are probably more common in sex than you think. I know. I'm not a lawyer. They're the only experts on sex bite marks. That's an entire semester in law school I would imagine. And lawyer's are never wrong. :roll:


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I'm sure despite "looking out for her friend " the accuser was not sober at 3am after drinking all night with a celebrity

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Once again, let me go back to the bite marks issue. Strong evidence of unwanted contact. Unless she is one of those many people that Beardown knows that enjoy being bitten during sex?

I also would not blame her for taking a settlement and getting the fuck out of town. Her life is ruined there, innocent or guilty for PK.

So how much does one ask for?

$5 mill for Bite Marks? pretty sure you dont pay taxes on PI issues? LAWERS? But you pay on Puntive and other such claims?


Ok. You're on me for this. But did he take a huge bite out of her? Then I'm on that lawyer's side. But little bite marks are probably more common in sex than you think. I know. I'm not a lawyer. They're the only experts on sex bite marks. That's an entire semester in law school I would imagine. And lawyer's are never wrong. :roll:


Large or small bite marks , or how common you think they are....an issue that will arise is PK's defense trying to find the other freaks in the world like you that enjoy biting during sex. They will request a list of guys she has had sex with and want to interview them.....and this is an example of a reason she will just want the money and end it, once again do not blame her if thats the route she takes.

PK's side is going to ask her to sign some binding shut up agreement and if they want her to be quiet forever, then pay her forever.

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It's called Odaxelagnia. So I'm not stupid for suggesting it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odaxelagnia

http://www.thefrisky.com/2013-02-22/girl-talk-i-like-to-be-bitten/

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Look, I'm not saying he didn't rape her. I just don't think the bite marks are the smoking gun. We'll just agree to disagre.


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I take your word for it that some guys and girls enjoy being bitten during Sex. Thats not an issue, even though you continue to try and explain it.

the issue would be if she is one of those people.

She will say NO, he will say YES. (If it gets there)

His defense team will then ask for her sexual history and want to interview each guy she has had sex with. The defense team will search for anything in her past that might be considered rough or biting. All this will be explained to her...and she will decide if she wants to go down the road.

BD, all you are doing is playing devils advocate. Saying "She might have asked him to do it" is a possibiity, but if I let you wager on it...would you really think that is the more likely outcome??? I am guessing not.

The real gold digger is the waitress who hooked up with the Hockey player years ago and is "sticking by his side". I am not saying she HAS to dump him right now, but I do think considering everything involved showing up with your family for the weekend is a little strange.

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I take your word for it that some guys and girls enjoy being bitten during Sex. Thats not an issue, even though you continue to try and explain it.

the issue would be if she is one of those people.

She will say NO, he will say YES. (If it gets there)

His defense team will then ask for her sexual history and want to interview each guy she has had sex with. The defense team will search for anything in her past that might be considered rough or biting. All this will be explained to her...and she will decide if she wants to go down the road.

BD, all you are doing is playing devils advocate. Saying "She might have asked him to do it" is a possibiity, but if I let you wager on it...would you really think that is the more likely outcome??? I am guessing not.

The real gold digger is the waitress who hooked up with the Hockey player years ago and is "sticking by his side". I am not saying she HAS to dump him right now, but I do think considering everything involved showing up with your family for the weekend is a little strange.


Even if her past history of sex didn't include biting, it's no proof of anything. Maybe Kaner was the first to introduce it to her and she liked it. Plausible defense argument.

And, of course, Big Fan. These always come down to he said, she said in date rape trials.


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These always come down to he said, she said in date rape trials.

I don't know why but I believe him, B.

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These always come down to he said, she said in date rape trials.

I don't know why but I believe him, B.


What's to believe? He hasn't said a word.

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I take your word for it that some guys and girls enjoy being bitten during Sex. Thats not an issue, even though you continue to try and explain it.

the issue would be if she is one of those people.

She will say NO, he will say YES. (If it gets there)

His defense team will then ask for her sexual history and want to interview each guy she has had sex with. The defense team will search for anything in her past that might be considered rough or biting. All this will be explained to her...and she will decide if she wants to go down the road.

BD, all you are doing is playing devils advocate. Saying "She might have asked him to do it" is a possibiity, but if I let you wager on it...would you really think that is the more likely outcome??? I am guessing not.

The real gold digger is the waitress who hooked up with the Hockey player years ago and is "sticking by his side". I am not saying she HAS to dump him right now, but I do think considering everything involved showing up with your family for the weekend is a little strange.


Even if her past history of sex didn't include biting, it's no proof of anything. Maybe Kaner was the first to introduce it to her and she liked it. Plausible defense argument.

And, of course, Big Fan. These always come down to he said, she said in date rape trials.


So, you would bet on the fact kane introduced her to biting?????

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I like to bite a houlder so what? I do not take a chunk of flesh like Dhamer so no one knows anything.

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