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Who are you most likely going to vote for IL gov?
Poll ended at Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:55 pm
Incumbent Rod Blagojevich (D) 8%  8%  [ 2 ]
Judy Baar Topinka (R) 21%  21%  [ 5 ]
Rich Whitney (G) 25%  25%  [ 6 ]
Mike Ditka (write-in) 46%  46%  [ 11 ]
Total votes : 24
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Please. I know about the Iran-Contra witch hunt. I'm not Ike South, for heaven's sake.

Example no. 379 of failed written sarcasm.

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two words that Reagan wished he never uttered:

"G AY Plague"

His callous disregard and lack of early funding for AIDS research are a major problem.

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I was wondering about that stone - if you are old enough to be an attorney, you had to at least HEARD about it.

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Coast, no one said he didn;t do anything good. We were disputing "perfect."


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Tax cuts for the wealthy?


What a relief. I thought you were only criticizing Reagan.

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Cmon Nas, you're better and smarter than to merely recite the Blue party play book. I hope you will find it liberating when some day you can view economics and politics with non-partisan glasses. The recent history of the American economy is that most everyone with educations or skills have benefitted despite the political meddling of both parties. Yes, some people without educations and skills did not see as much income growth in the 80s as those with educations...but that didn't change much in the 90s or 00s either, regardless of the party in power in the White House or Congress.


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Nas: I think I'm a little older than you. Part of why I love Reagan as much as I do is because I remember the dreadful Carter years.

And by the way, I like Democrats also. As long as they are named Joe Lieberman.

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And by the way, I like Democrats also. As long as they are named Joe Lieberman.


Zell Miller is ok in my book too. :D


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I remember the dreadful Carter years[/u].


Cmon Stone, you don't like 19% interest rates, 15% inflation, the misery index and the great malaise?

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Nas, Lieberman just lost the Democrat primary. He is going to win his seat easily as an independent.

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I remember the dreadful Carter years[/u].


Cmon Stone, you don't like 19% interest rates, 15% inflation, the misery index and the great malaise?


Oh no. I'm having a relapse. It took years of therapy to forget how Jimmy's misguided economics of "discipline" almost destroyed what little was left of our economy after Ford's brilliantly conceived "Whip Inflation Now" campaign and Nixon's price controls took it to the brink.

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That's the reason he didn't get re-elected


Lieberman? He lost the primary to Lamont but he has a 10 point lead on him as an Independent and will easily win the seat.


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strong economic growth and job creation? Oh. you guys are too young to remember that.

Cmon Nas, you're better and smarter than to merely recite the Blue party play book. I hope you will find it liberating when some day you can view economics and politics with non-partisan glasses. The recent history of the American economy is that most everyone with educations or skills have benefitted despite the political meddling of both parties. Yes, some people without educations and skills did not see as much income growth in the 80s as those with educations...but that didn't change much in the 90s or 00s either, regardless of the party in power in the White House or Congress.


Coast, you don't know many Air Traffic Controllers back in the 80's did ya?

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Oz, if I remember correctly it was against the law for them to strike. So Reagan fired them and life went on. Sometimes we make bad choices, like MLB umpires.

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Yeah, Oz, actually I did...and they were POd that their union leaders led them down a stupid path of political posturing that cost them their jobs unless they made the very painful choice to cross picket lines.

But that's beside the point here. Don't confuse people who lost jobs in a union squabble with broadscale economic recovery from the worst economic period since the 30s. What happened in turning the economy around in the 80s from where it was under Carter was pretty remarkable...until Clinton did even better in the 90s.


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To be exact, it was 11,359. This Union did stage an illegal strike. In 1955, Congress had enacted a law making such a strike by Federal employees a crime punishable by 1 year in prison. They also planned their illegal act for August, 1981, during the airlines' busiest time of the year. Major carriers like Eastern, American and TWA were reporting losses of 30 million dollars a day.

Fortunately, the FAA's contingency plan sent them packing permanently. Believe me, I pity the holders of stock in these airlines far more than I do the controllers. Reagan gave them ample opportunity to come back, and they made a fatal error by not heeding his warnings.

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stoneroses, you have to be kidding. Any historian would still be able to find numerous faults in Reagan no matter how much you love him or even I liked him for that matter.

David Palmer = the best president ever that no real president will even be 10% the pres he was on the best action drama television show ever, 24.


C'mon now Ryan. Jed Bartlett is my President :D


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