Billy is a scumbag for sure, but Hilary has never given me the impression that she is anything but total Caller Bob.

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No. Not if she thought she had a bigger calling. A greater good. They needed each other to make change. She believed in Bill's political agenda. She wanted to help him with it. That meant more to her than her marriage at some point.

Although she didn't do it for this reason. Some would say divorce is the easy way out. That she made a commitment to marriage and she stuck with him. In this day and age where everybody gets divorced.

I think it does to the American people Spaulding. She stood by her husband who had an intern blowing him and he was using her snatch to lube his cigars in the White House for who knows how long and rumors of hundreds of other women Uncle Bill was didling.She has been made a fool of and walked all over by her husband and the other women. It does not show me that she is willing to stand up for herself and shows me she is very weak and is not a take control women.

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You know, It's the republicans who cry for the sanctity of marriage, family values and all of that bull shit. Rudy's been divorced 3 times and cheated on his wife. Hillary and Bill stuck with each other. Then we have the gay senator getting fucked in bathroom stalls and living his lie. Ruining the life of his wife by marrying her as a gay man. The Republicans are the hypocrites.

Certain Republicans are clearly hypocrites, and I think used the right word "stuck" to describe Hillary and Bill's marriage of convenience.

I can't believe I'm going to defend Hillary Clinton but she made a commitment to marriage. She didn't make a commitment to being a role model. She may be one but her first priority should be to her family and her marriage. If she felt that she needed/wanted to stay, that's her prerogative.

I don't think you can criticize her for working through a tough stretch in her marriage and keeping it together. You may want to question her motivations but I don't think you can say she should have left him just because their dirty laundry was public and she should have made a statement.

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You know me like that.

I'd say your words are utter bullshit but I try to stay away from analyzing individual marital relationships.

To me her and Bills marriage is as stupid an issue as gay marriage was last election. Gay marriage should be a state right and the federal government should have absolutely no say in it whatsoever, just like Hillary's marriage has absolutely no relevance in my opinion on how well she would do as President. I think Stu and Nas are reading a bit too much into her family life and using that mentality of "If she cant run her own house how can she run a country"

Bill cheated on her, she accepted it and stayed with him. To some thats courageous, to some thats stupid. I dont see how it affects how she will be able to everybody healthcare, fix the deficit, or deal with nuclear proliferation.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I can't believe I'm writing this but, I agree with you wholeheartedly FFan

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The bullshit is not in you making the comment. That is public domain. Your dime store psychology on relationships is the bullshit.

I think she stayed with him to help his career. Not her career. For a greater good. A shared belief that she had with her husband to help America.

It was noble for her to stay with him. Not weak.

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It's possible she stayed with him for that reason. I could come up with a different reason though. Even though they are a very public couple, we just don't know what is really going on. That is why I try to stay away from commenting about marital realtionships...but if I must, deep down she still sees herself as the smart, unattractive dork and sees him as the cool kid she could never be friends with. How do you like that one.

I've seen pictures of Hillary when she was young. She was that dork but she was that "kind of pretty dork".

No beauty queen but certainly not ugly. She must have had some sort of sex appeal to get Billy's attention. He probably got whatever he wanted back then.

Hillary haters will like this site and their depiction of her.

http://hilldabeast.com

He has shown himself to be attracted to questionable beauties. There is no reason to think he has not always been this way. Some people are chubby chasers, others are into older women. Bill seems to like the "unconventional beauties".

This picture of young Hillary doesn't support my case. But you can tell she could look good if she tried. She didn't try here.

http://www.uncorrelated.com/images/bill_and_hillary_clinton_1.jpg

Here is another one. A little better.

http://librarising.com/astrology/celebs/images2/GHI/hillaryclinton2.jpg

So many true statements in one thread...






Ken,
My comment was more directed towards people on this board believing that she was being sincere.


Hillary is a very strong, smart, wealthy, and powerful woman who is the ultimate self-preservationist and politician. She's also an evil, corrupt, raging bitch. I've hated the 8 years of Bush as much as anyone, but I can honestly say I think she'd be worse... and that has nothing to with her being a Democrat, a woman, or Bill Clinton's wife.

Brian Piccolo's grandson scored a hatrick against my son's hockey's team last night in the playoffs, ending their season. He did not cry.