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That first pass to Scott was no look, Mahomes like
I guess this means you think Bagent = Mahomes

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Bagent was far more productive in his first start and win than Fields. The Chargers give up 400 yards a game and have Thieving Mack. Expect more.

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Spiegel throwing a QB2 party today. Shane said it should be for Fields.

Watched that this evening. It made me laugh. I have given Meat a lot of crap around here over the years. But he can be a funny guy. They entertained me.

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This won't continue to work....


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Can Tyson bagents dad do the color commenting for the tv broadcasts? He could be the next white Stacey king

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Wanny says that if the Bears win against the Chargers, Bagent will be named the permanent starting QB.

It certainly sounds like Eberflus prefers Bagent over Fields.

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This won't continue to work....



I think he proved he can play in the NFL. I don't think he proved he could be a starter. I'm not drawing any other conclusions because it was his first game.

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Wanny says that if the Bears win against the Chargers, Bagent will be named the permanent starting QB.

It certainly sounds like Eberflus prefers Bagent over Fields.

I think we are seeing more and more evidence that neither Flus nor Poles is really in on Fields.

Wanny is pretty connected to people in the league. I would think he is right.

They clearly want an extended look at Bagent to know what they need to do in the draft next spring.

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Wanny says that if the Bears win against the Chargers, Bagent will be named the permanent starting QB.

It certainly sounds like Eberflus prefers Bagent over Fields.

I think we are seeing more and more evidence that neither Flus nor Poles is really in on Fields.

Wanny is pretty connected to people in the league. I would think he is right.

They clearly want an extended look at Bagent to know what they need to do in the draft next spring.


I tend to agree. Wanny seems to know what Eberflus is thinking.

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This won't continue to work....



I think he proved he can play in the NFL. I don't think he proved he could be a starter. I'm not drawing any other conclusions because it was his first game.


He looked so much better than Jordan love though.

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Tall Midget wrote:
Wanny says that if the Bears win against the Chargers, Bagent will be named the permanent starting QB.

It certainly sounds like Eberflus prefers Bagent over Fields.


It sounds like the coaches and players prefer Bagent.

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This won't continue to work....




It shouldn't have worked on Sunday.

But when they start jumping the short routes, the intermediate and deep routes will be open.

If you can run first in the NFL, all other roads will open from there.

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Wanny says that if the Bears win against the Chargers, Bagent will be named the permanent starting QB.

It certainly sounds like Eberflus prefers Bagent over Fields.

I think we are seeing more and more evidence that neither Flus nor Poles is really in on Fields.

Wanny is pretty connected to people in the league. I would think he is right.

They clearly want an extended look at Bagent to know what they need to do in the draft next spring.


I tend to agree. Wanny seems to know what Eberflus is thinking.
I agree as well.

But just from a practical standpoint, if Bagent plays well again and Fields is anything less than 100%, then Bagent has earned another start IMO.

Small sample size I know, but the Bears have two games on the road in buildings that can be tough to win in. The teams they are playing are decent, better than the Bears for sure, but not so much better that they are unwinnable games for the Beloved.

If the Bears go 1-1 and Bagent plays well over the next 2 weeks, then maybe we have something here.

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I wonder if the coaching staff hates Fields because he accumulates too many negative plays, doesn't get rid of the ball in a timely matter(making the oline look worse), doesn't extend drives which tires out your defense and doesn't tire out the apposing defense and is like 5-20 as a starting quarterback?


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I wonder if the coaching staff hates Fields because he accumulates too many negative plays, doesn't get rid of the ball in a timely matter(making the oline look worse), doesn't extend drives which tires out your defense and doesn't tire out the apposing defense and is like 5-20 as a starting quarterback?

He fumbles, gets sacked, throws interceptions and can't drive the offense at the end of games when it counts.

He loses. Like, all the time.

Bagent's 2.1 yds in the air is better than 0.0 and a loss of 8yds.

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The Chargers, despite some decent sack numbers, are the worst passing defense in the NFL. Hopefully Bagent is given more (some) downfield shots.

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I wonder if the coaching staff hates Fields because he accumulates too many negative plays, doesn't get rid of the ball in a timely matter(making the oline look worse), doesn't extend drives which tires out your defense and doesn't tire out the apposing defense and is like 5-20 as a starting quarterback?


I'm pretty sure it has everything to do with him being a THUG you know what I mean

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He loses. Like, all the time.



It’s funny…a caller was challenging Parkins yesterday on his support for the higher ceiling of Fields, but conceded Fields had two wins against bum teams. It took Shane/Tanny to remind the brainwashed that only one of those “breakout” games was actually a win, and that Fields was the primary reason they lost to Denver due to his disastrous 4th quarter.

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People are making a big deal about the 2.1 yd deal. I think they kept things pretty simple due to it being his first start and because of the matchup with the Raiders D. They did not want him getting killed by Crosby.

He may not be a gun slinger, but he can handle more than just dinks and dunks for 2.1 yds.

Now if after 2-3 weeks the number is still that low then there is a problem.

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They did not want him getting killed by Crosby.
What flew totally under the radar in this game was that Crosby was essentially a non-factor. Darnell Wright absolutely held his own against a premier pass rusher. That was very good to see.


Also, PFF gave their second worst grade on the Bears to Seacrest's guy Tyrique Stevenson :lol: :lol: :lol:

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This won't continue to work....




It shouldn't have worked on Sunday.

But when they start jumping the short routes, the intermediate and deep routes will be open.

If you can run first in the NFL, all other roads will open from there.


people dismissed their ability to run last year because it was aided by qb scrables. The last four weeks have not had that boost but it is still producing.

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This won't continue to work....




It shouldn't have worked on Sunday.

But when they start jumping the short routes, the intermediate and deep routes will be open.

If you can run first in the NFL, all other roads will open from there.


people dismissed their ability to run last year because it was aided by qb scrables. The last four weeks have not had that boost but it is still producing.


They ran the ball well before Fields morphed into Forrest Gump last year.

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People are making a big deal about the 2.1 yd deal. I think they kept things pretty simple due to it being his first start and because of the matchup with the Raiders D. They did not want him getting killed by Crosby.

He may not be a gun slinger, but he can handle more than just dinks and dunks for 2.1 yds.

Now if after 2-3 weeks the number is still that low then there is a problem.


I think he is a gunslinger if left to his own style of play. I don't think he's like sexy rexy throwing it deep all the time, but I think he throws into tight coverages.

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This won't continue to work....




It shouldn't have worked on Sunday.

But when they start jumping the short routes, the intermediate and deep routes will be open.

If you can run first in the NFL, all other roads will open from there.


people dismissed their ability to run last year because it was aided by qb scrables. The last four weeks have not had that boost but it is still producing.


They ran the ball well before Fields morphed into Forrest Gump last year.


They consistently ran on obvious passing downs and late in games when they were down.

Getsy did some good things with run-game design, but teams were also content to let them run, especially given the putrid state of the Bears defense.

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We have a one armed RT. There's video of Wright solely using his right arm to block for MANY plays. He couldn't lift his left arm.

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We have a one armed RT. There's video of Wright solely using his right arm to block for MANY plays. He couldn't lift his left arm.


Wright is going to be a very good player. That's a solid pick for Poles.

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Wanny says that if the Bears win against the Chargers, Bagent will be named the permanent starting QB.

It certainly sounds like Eberflus prefers Bagent over Fields.

I think we are seeing more and more evidence that neither Flus nor Poles is really in on Fields.

Wanny is pretty connected to people in the league. I would think he is right.

They clearly want an extended look at Bagent to know what they need to do in the draft next spring.


I tend to agree. Wanny seems to know what Eberflus is thinking.
I agree as well.

But just from a practical standpoint, if Bagent plays well again and Fields is anything less than 100%, then Bagent has earned another start IMO.

Small sample size I know, but the Bears have two games on the road in buildings that can be tough to win in. The teams they are playing are decent, better than the Bears for sure, but not so much better that they are unwinnable games for the Beloved.

If the Bears go 1-1 and Bagent plays well over the next 2 weeks, then maybe we have something here.


are we not trying to lose now ? i thought that was the point of this year. Put Fields back in there ASAP .


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