NME wrote:
You’re an idiot who lives in a fantasy world where you believe you’re some next level debate savant. You aren’t, you’re just another guy with a keyboard and bad opinions that you can’t explain or justify so you type as much as you can in hopes the other person just shrugs and walks away.
I am a next level debate savant. You just aren't putting my debating skills in context. Context is important.
NME wrote:
Here’s another problem -and piece of ‘context’ that should matter- so it’s only the schools fault? No blame is to be placed at their landing spot in the NFL, the coaching they receive (or lack there of), the talent around them (or lack there of) at the next level? Really? How about injury at the next level, has that ever prohibited next level success?
On an individual basis, sure. When it's a very clear trend that the players who play with the best offensive talent don't make it in the NFL at a high rate then it's ok to point that out.
NME wrote:
Again, there are so many outliers, moving parts to whether or not a guy succeeds at the next level that simply making a list of names can’t possibly be meaningful in any way anyone should take serious.
You keep on using strange phrases like outliers. I literally picked the top 25 quarterbacks of the 2010s. Now, maybe there are other lists that include others but it seemed decent enough to me. 20-23 of the 25 top quarterbacks of the 2010s didn't play at traditional powerhouses, and to even get it down to 20 you have to include Wisconsin and Auburn as a traditional power which is questionable at best.
NME wrote:
Bottom line? That list doesn’t mean shit. Literally every single players situation is different. If you want to tell me you don’t think Justin Fields or Trevor Lawrence will be any good at the next level I want a detailed breakdown of why you think this way that doesn’t simply begin and end with ‘well, he went to Ohio State, here’s a list of guys, I rest my case’. Because that is stupid. And it makes you look stupid when you try and use it to justify your take. It’s also not how you conduct a productive conversation that uses actual analysis to prove your point -which I already know you’re incapable of.
This is just pointless drivel by you. There are trends in the draft. There are schools that provide a lot of talent at a position and schools that don't. Miami and TE. Wisconsin with OL and RB. Iowa with OL. Alabama at most positions.
Of course every single situation is unique. That doesn't mean trends don't exist. If I told you that football players from Florida are more likely to be future NFL players than football players from Montana would you also respond similarly? After all, every single situation is unique, but it still doesn't mean that the trend is some made up thing even if you say "context" a lot.