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Mitch vs Fields as starters would be an interesting matchup.

The Fields Cult would never admit to Mitch being just as good ( as well as their casual racism) because Fields “ looks the part” better.

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The screen plays last week were all on Fields. He checked to them.

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The most disturbing thing about Mitch is that he has never been able to learn how to read defenses despite playing for numerous coaching staffs, Fields shows many of the same traits, it seems no matter what you do you cannot coach guys up, they are who they are.

The question is will Maye or Willams be able to come in and process the fact that the dude standing 10 yards away wide open is the best option against the coverage he is seeing or will he try to force the ball like Mitch, or hold the ball and take a sack like Fields.

That said, the Jets, Giants, Pats, Steelers, Panthers, and Browns would all love to have Fields right now. He would seem to be able to garner a second round pick given the dearth of QB talent.


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Is there anything Fields can do that would make you keep him, now that the top pick is becoming a reality?

I'm still a Fields guy, but I don't think so. It's just too unique an opportunity and Poles already passed on a class of what is looking like some pretty good QB.

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Is there anything Fields can do that would make you keep him, now that the top pick is becoming a reality?

I'm still a Fields guy, but I don't think so. It's just too unique an opportunity and Poles already passed on a class of what is looking like some pretty good QB.

I think the value of a good QB on a “rookie deal” forces the move to trade Fields and draft a new one. While Williams may not be the next Mahommes, at worst he’s on par with Fields and you buy yourself some cap space.

I actually think the best thing for Fields himself is to move on to a new city where he’d have renewed support. If he gets a big contract here and is mediocre, the fans will turn on him. He’d be the Bear’s version of Jayson Heyward.


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Is there anything Fields can do that would make you keep him, now that the top pick is becoming a reality?

I'm still a Fields guy, but I don't think so. It's just too unique an opportunity and Poles already passed on a class of what is looking like some pretty good QB.

I don't see how Poles can risk being the GM to pass on Stroud and another potential franchise QB. He has to use a pick to take a top QB

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good dolphin wrote:
Is there anything Fields can do that would make you keep him, now that the top pick is becoming a reality?

I'm still a Fields guy, but I don't think so. It's just too unique an opportunity and Poles already passed on a class of what is looking like some pretty good QB.

I don't see how Poles can risk being the GM to pass on Stroud and another potential franchise QB. He has to use a pick to take a top QB

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The Bears rookie quarterback will have far better offensive talent than Fields or (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky inherited. The coach and OC are the most important ingredient to his success.

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Adding a WR like Harrison, a quality center and LT almost QB proofs this offense.

The Niners are a great example of how an average QB can thrive when he has talent around him.

Interesting how the book on Mitch and Fields are similar, make them read zone coverages and see guys settling into open areas in zones, neither guy can do this and everyone knows it, so you really limit what you can do, both guys seem to give up when the first read is not there and start getting happy feet in the pocket which creates late and inaccurate throws because they do not reset their feet.

Great example this season of a guy who could see where the ball should go, but lacked an NFL arm in Bagent and a guy with an NFL arm who could make the throw, but cannot see where the ball should go in Fields.


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RFDC wrote:
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Is there anything Fields can do that would make you keep him, now that the top pick is becoming a reality?

I'm still a Fields guy, but I don't think so. It's just too unique an opportunity and Poles already passed on a class of what is looking like some pretty good QB.

I don't see how Poles can risk being the GM to pass on Stroud and another potential franchise QB. He has to use a pick to take a top QB


The key word, though, is POTENTIAL. There is no quarterback in college right now who is anywhere near a sure thing to become a "franchise quarterback". We know right now a lot more about Field's ability than we do about the rookie qb class next season and beyond. right? I think that at minimum he will be an average quarterback and if coached correctly and set up with an offense that can support his ability,can be a good quarterback. I'd say that they should do the samrt thing and take the sure thing rather than set themselves up for another long delay in getting into the play-offs.

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The Bears rookie quarterback will have far better offensive talent than Fields or (Pro Bowl QB) (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky inherited. The coach and OC are the most important ingredient to his success.



That is very true.

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The Hawk wrote:
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Is there anything Fields can do that would make you keep him, now that the top pick is becoming a reality?

I'm still a Fields guy, but I don't think so. It's just too unique an opportunity and Poles already passed on a class of what is looking like some pretty good QB.

I don't see how Poles can risk being the GM to pass on Stroud and another potential franchise QB. He has to use a pick to take a top QB


The key word, though, is POTENTIAL. There is no quarterback in college right now who is anywhere near a sure thing to become a "franchise quarterback". We know right now a lot more about Field's ability than we do about the rookie qb class next season and beyond. right? I think that at minimum he will be an average quarterback and if coached correctly and set up with an offense that can support his ability,can be a good quarterback. I'd say that they should do the samrt thing and take the sure thing rather than set themselves up for another long delay in getting into the play-offs.

Well thankfully you are not the one making decisions at Halas hall.

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RFDC wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Is there anything Fields can do that would make you keep him, now that the top pick is becoming a reality?

I'm still a Fields guy, but I don't think so. It's just too unique an opportunity and Poles already passed on a class of what is looking like some pretty good QB.

I don't see how Poles can risk being the GM to pass on Stroud and another potential franchise QB. He has to use a pick to take a top QB


The key word, though, is POTENTIAL. There is no quarterback in college right now who is anywhere near a sure thing to become a "franchise quarterback". We know right now a lot more about Field's ability than we do about the rookie qb class next season and beyond. right? I think that at minimum he will be an average quarterback and if coached correctly and set up with an offense that can support his ability,can be a good quarterback. I'd say that they should do the samrt thing and take the sure thing rather than set themselves up for another long delay in getting into the play-offs.


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I’ve come around to the best thing is to trade Fields and start over. If for no other reason than resetting on a rookie contract.

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If they decide to take a QB in the first round then they have to trade Fields.

In regard to using the picks in the 1st they have to decide if they believe one of the QBs is a no brainer at 1.

Or they could take Harrision Jr at 1 and go with the best available QB with the 2nd pick.

I have went back and forth on this. But I think at the end of the day you have to take the biggest swing possible at getting a franchise QB. So that means they take a QB with the 1st pick and then the best overall guy on the board with the 2nd pick.

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If they decide to take a QB in the first round then they have to trade Fields.

In regard to using the picks in the 1st they have to decide if they believe one of the QBs is a no brainer at 1.

Or they could take Harrision Jr at 1 and go with the best available QB with the 2nd pick.

I have went back and forth on this. But I think at the end of the day you have to take the biggest swing possible at getting a franchise QB. So that means they take a QB with the 1st pick and then the best overall guy on the board with the 2nd pick.


I want them to trade out of the 1st and take the best available QB between Williams, Maye and Nix that is left.

Do not want them to blow their load at #1, when we have MANY needs to fill. and another high 1st round pick to play with.

You do however need to draft one of the big three at QB.


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If they decide to take a QB in the first round then they have to trade Fields.

In regard to using the picks in the 1st they have to decide if they believe one of the QBs is a no brainer at 1.

Or they could take Harrision Jr at 1 and go with the best available QB with the 2nd pick.

I have went back and forth on this. But I think at the end of the day you have to take the biggest swing possible at getting a franchise QB. So that means they take a QB with the 1st pick and then the best overall guy on the board with the 2nd pick.


I want them to trade out of the 1st and take the best available QB between Williams, Maye and Nix that is left.

Do not want them to blow their load at #1, when we have MANY needs to fill. and another high 1st round pick to play with.

You do however need to draft one of the big three at QB.

You gotta take the foolproof pick at 1. Thats Harrison .

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If they decide to take a QB in the first round then they have to trade Fields.

In regard to using the picks in the 1st they have to decide if they believe one of the QBs is a no brainer at 1.

Or they could take Harrision Jr at 1 and go with the best available QB with the 2nd pick.

I have went back and forth on this. But I think at the end of the day you have to take the biggest swing possible at getting a franchise QB. So that means they take a QB with the 1st pick and then the best overall guy on the board with the 2nd pick.

I'd be stunned if they went WR then QB. That's a huge risk and they would (deservedly) get killed if they missed on a stud. The difference between the top WR and the 2nd or 3rd best is not significant enough to warrant that kind of move.

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Harrison is the surest thing in the draft. I take him and then grab whatever QB is best with the next pick. None of these QB’s look sure enough to pass on MHJ.

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Harrison is the surest thing in the draft. I take him and then grab whatever QB is best with the next pick. None of these QB’s look sure enough to pass on MHJ.

Any top 10 WR is pretty much a sure thing. A QB is so much more important and it's the GM's job to figure out which one is the best to lead the franchise. I get why there would be skepticism about that given the Bears history, but getting that right is by far the single biggest factor in becoming a SB contender. There's a reason there have only been 3 Wrs picked that high in the modern era.

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Harrison is the surest thing in the draft. I take him and then grab whatever QB is best with the next pick. None of these QB’s look sure enough to pass on MHJ.

Any top 10 WR is pretty much a sure thing. A QB is so much more important and it's the GM's job to figure out which one is the best to lead the franchise. I get why there would be skepticism about that given the Bears history, but getting that right is by far the single biggest factor in becoming a SB contender. There's a reason there have only been 3 Wrs picked that high in the modern era.


We haven't had success drafting the quarterback or the receiver.

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Harrison is the surest thing in the draft. I take him and then grab whatever QB is best with the next pick. None of these QB’s look sure enough to pass on MHJ.

Any top 10 WR is pretty much a sure thing.

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Harrison is the surest thing in the draft. I take him and then grab whatever QB is best with the next pick. None of these QB’s look sure enough to pass on MHJ.

Any top 10 WR is pretty much a sure thing.

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Of course there have been mistakes...that why I wrote "pretty much". I would still venture that the scouts get WR & O-linemen right in the 1st round at a higher rate than any other position perhaps other than that now rarely selected RB.

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