Georgie's Choice: a drip who "just wants people to be the best version of themselves" or a black guy

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hmm, a drip or a black guy?? I'll take the black guy. I'm bigoted. I hate drips. I call the whole group of them...Dripshits.

I really think Weaver might turn them down too. Coaches seem to have gotten wiser, they aren’t just going to be “happy to be here” and are fine waiting cycle after cycle for the right fit. Only the desperate are going to go for the Bears, Jets or Raiders—unless they are given almost complete control (which Oakland seems willing to give).

The Raiders seem to be undergoing prominent de-Davising, though, with Tom Brady and that other guy stepping up as faces of ownership. I think they'll end up being the first team to give up the full 20% to private equity, and then they'll finally be the soulless football commerce machine they were destined to become in Las Vegas.

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Well whatever happening it has rendered the Bears as a tool for candidates to drive up their price elsewhere. Which I guess is one step up from the Jets where people are just saying “thanks but no thanks”.

Wish I could believe that Poles/Warren/George are bringing in the best and brightest in an effort to get the best football information available from the top football minds.

However, here is what likely happened when the interviewed Vrabel, Poles could not understand what Vrabel told him about evaluating offensive lineman, Warren saw Vrabel as too strong of a guy and was scared, and George...well George likely was cowering in the corner or retreated to one of Halas Halls many safe spaces because he felt unsafe.

It does seem that Virginia will step in and hire McCarthy, a good catholic boy.

all of you are overthinking it

The biggest names aren't even available yet for interview.

I'll do my own edition of this board's arguments built on sand: The strong Mc Carthy interest is just a ploy to DRIVE DOWN Johnsons ask

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

It's going to be an awkward situation for Johnson if the Lions win this weekend. The real hiring season starts on Monday.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

In depth article on ESPN about coaching searches and the entanglement with Trace Armstrong type agents

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/434 ... ll-concern

long read but interesting... i laughed at the included image of recent loser bear coaches/poles. hard deciding who sucked the most in that team photo

The idea that guys can’t assemble staffs without agent input is probably obvious, but not something I’d considered.

Eberflus had no plans for offense aside from a guy he met at a golf outing hosted by their mutual agent.

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It’s already done what are you even talking about. The only idiots who still think Ben Johnson will coach for the Bears are people who gamble on sports. He’s going to the Raiders, its over.

He may go to the Raiders. There is no way it's already done.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

There’s a hot take out there that Johnson wanted to see if an organization could identify its own failures and where they went wrong.

A week later this article bubbles up…

The weird thing about the article is that it’s effectively two stories smashed together. A big chunk is DEI angst you’d have expected post-Floyd. Then there’s this harsh transition into “look how had the Bears were at hiring.”

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I like that Dan talked about how damning this article was of the Bears and how the process hurts people of color but then slammed the brakes and said "now let's not get any ideas about how it's bad for lawyers to help their clients."

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Bernstein is promoting this article like it's the most important thing ever written.

Nah, it’s done. Certainly as far as the Bears are concerned, I don’t follow Jacksonville well enough to know if they’ll make a final run at him but the Bears won’t. Not for a white guy.

Catch me up. What article are you talking about?

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Scroll up like 5 posts.

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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/434 ... ll-concern

Not really surprising given the ineptitude of some of these billion dollar teams. Still, quite annoying to see it spelled out like this. The hiring process at Denny's is better-run.

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"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

Not going to blow the Rooney Rule on this one.

Non-coaching related but may be worth not having the extra picks to have this guy save Poles from himself:

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According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Bears recently made a call to the Pittsburgh Steelers to inquire about the availability of head coach Mike Tomlin. This call presumably came right around the time that Tomlin bluntly said, “Save your time,” when asked what his message would be to any teams thinking about making a trade request with the Steelers to pry him away from Pittsburgh. Apparently in the midst of interviewing dozens of head coaching candidates, Ryan Poles didn't get this memo. But as Schefter reported, these discussion never even made it to Tomlin.

Caleb got a haircut! His wrist is irreparably damaged! No coach will want to be here!

The Bears once again showing their ass and being exposed for not knowing what they want to do. All these candidates and interviews and they still have no idea who they want to hire. This group is so fucking incompetent lol

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Lots of things to criticize them for, but picking up the phone and checking on Tomlin isn't one of them

I disagree. 1st while I respect Tomlin he’s not that far from McCarthy and he’s also not an offensive minded coach so he wouldn’t be any higher on my list than McCarthy.


2nd.. having to trade away multiple high valuable picks for a guy who’s not much different than another guy you could probably sign without giving up any picks is a dumb move. Especially for a team that can’t afford to trade away those picks.


3rd.. indecision has lead to what we’ve seen from the Bears so far. They didn’t begin the process early after firing Eberflus by bringing in candidates that weren’t working or even try to satisfy the Rooney rule so they could be ready to make serious offers to a candidate they have serious competition for. You can sit back and hope they’re doing their do diligence all you want to but after watching this group fail and make the wrong decision time and again I’m viewing it thru a different lens. My guess is that they still don’t know who they want and haven’t zeroed in on a handful of the right candidates yet. Something they could have been further along with if they’d done this correct from the start.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

I’ll add that Tomlin controls his trade clause and publicly stated ‘no dice’ when asked up front about a team wanting to trade for him. So it’s really a zero sum game here.



The only way I’d feel better about this is if I missed somewhere in these articles where the Bears called about a trade earlier and it’s just leaking now. If that’s the case then I have less of an issue with it from a lining up options standpoint. But I still wouldn’t like it for some of the other reasons I’ve stated.



I am not a ‘trade for a coach guy’

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Tomlin and McCarthy are way more similar than most will admit.

Tomlin also has failed to put together a competent offense for the better part of a decade. He pushed Arians out and relied on guys like Canada and Haley.

He’s a very good coach and there may not be another guy who could handle the likes of Big Ben, Leveon Bell, AB, James Harrison, etc. But I have no idea why you’d trade assets for him when you can hire a similar guy without losing picks.

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Another hot take I read about this was that in leaking their trade interest, they’re signaling that they’re willing to pay real money for a HC bc Tomlin is one of the better paid guys out there.

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