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(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was right. Look at this shit.

https://youtu.be/uEYp8Az_PrM

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They spent a lot of money keeping Massie and Leno Jr. around and I do not know why.


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They spent a lot of money keeping Massie and Leno Jr. around and I do not know why.


You loved the moves at the time..you were in paces corner

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They spent a lot of money keeping Massie and Leno Jr. around and I do not know why.


That video shows that Daniels sucked too and that far too MANY times Whitehair is getting stood up because he's not strong enough or he's using bad techniques.

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They spent a lot of money keeping Massie and Leno Jr. around and I do not know why.


That video shows that Daniels sucked too and that far too MANY times Whitehair is getting stood up because he's not strong enough or he's using bad techniques.


Daniels troubles me the most. We should be able to rely on him to be good by this time of his second year. Instead, we are getting that move where people make excuses for him because he is still learning.

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They spent a lot of money keeping Massie and Leno Jr. around and I do not know why.


You loved the moves at the time..you were in paces corner



They were playing like average tackles and signed for average tackle money (average free agent tackle money). Each of the last couple of years they have played average enough that the Bears addressed greater priorities. The dam broke on both of them this year.

I really think one of the big problems is not having a TE who can block to help them out. We know one or the other is going to need help on every single play. We don't have a single blocking TE on the roster.

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i dont know what leno's pff grade is, but he shows up flailing around on zoomed in replays far too often


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Leno is OK as a blocker, but he gets the yellow flag thrown on his way too many times.

Massie is a turnstyle.

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Leno is OK as a blocker, but he gets the yellow flag thrown on his way too many times.

Massie is a turnstyle.


Leno stole money against the Packers according to the video.

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Nas wrote:
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They spent a lot of money keeping Massie and Leno Jr. around and I do not know why.


That video shows that Daniels sucked too and that far too MANY times Whitehair is getting stood up because he's not strong enough or he's using bad techniques.


Daniels troubles me the most. We should be able to rely on him to be good by this time of his second year. Instead, we are getting that move where people make excuses for him because he is still learning.


He appeared to be good at guard last year and now he's awful. Everyone said this was a great pick and Nagy or Harry have fucked him up.

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What happened to the Notre Dame kid they finally promoted from practice squad? They blocked the Patriots from taking him yet did not play him?

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can we get tom thayer on M&H so he can praise O-line guru herry heistand again.... because CLEARLY that guy can fix anything...... nope


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can we get tom thayer on M&H so he can praise O-line guru herry heistand again.... because CLEARLY that guy can fix anything...... nope


He's on today.

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can we get tom thayer on M&H so he can praise O-line guru herry heistand again.... because CLEARLY that guy can fix anything...... nope


olin says the same thing

We certainly haven't seen it this year.

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can we get tom thayer on M&H so he can praise O-line guru herry heistand again.... because CLEARLY that guy can fix anything...... nope


olin says the same thing

We certainly haven't seen it this year.


I think Olin is blaming it on play design. I expect him to be fired after the season.

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I don't know details of o-line technique or play design. What I do know is what is blatantly obvious....the o-line is getting manhandled.

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Daniels is a bust. Terrible pick.


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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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They spent a lot of money keeping Massie and Leno Jr. around and I do not know why.


That video shows that Daniels sucked too and that far too MANY times Whitehair is getting stood up because he's not strong enough or he's using bad techniques.


Daniels troubles me the most. We should be able to rely on him to be good by this time of his second year. Instead, we are getting that move where people make excuses for him because he is still learning.


He appeared to be good at guard last year and now he's awful. Everyone said this was a great pick and Nagy or Harry have fucked him up.


He was drafted because he was a college center(supposedly good) and that is what he should be playing. He's too small for a guard, but I guess he sucks at center too because they had to move Whitehair back there. Awful pick.


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The O-line has been terrible since week 1.

I’m glad some are just now realizing how crippling that is to an entire offense.

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you can't just cobble together a bunch of bums and hope it works. A good left tackle is worth a high first round draft pick.

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Nas wrote:
(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was right. Look at this shit.

https://youtu.be/uEYp8Az_PrM


That was a great video which sure explained a lot. Thanks for sharing it. :!: :!:

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Antarctica wrote:
They spent a lot of money keeping Massie and Leno Jr. around and I do not know why.


Yeah. I don't know why either. Right now all Leno does is help up Mitch or the running backs up after they get knocked silly because he and his other partner in crime (whoever the other tackle is at the time) cannot block worth a crap. I've been bitching about Pace being unable to build an offensive since he has been with the Bears and this season it has been the worst ever. :x :x :x

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billypootons wrote:
i dont know what leno's pff grade is, but he shows up flailing around on zoomed in replays far too often


The truth is is that he is a very weak offensive tackle who has lousy feet and is lost against good defensive ends and even below average guys have their way with him. He was a lousy signing as was Massie.

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i dont know what leno's pff grade is, but he shows up flailing around on zoomed in replays far too often


I think PFF grades are a sad joke and don't care what his "grade" is. All I know is that they could make up a comedy reel of him getting knocked on his ass and having the DE blow past him and the offense killing illegal procedure, holding, and illegal man downfield penalties. He's got to have more penalties than any other offensive lineman in the entire NFL. I'm telling you all he does well is help up the guy he is supposed to be blocking for after that guy gets obliterated. :x :x :x

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Nas wrote:
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can we get tom thayer on M&H so he can praise O-line guru herry heistand again.... because CLEARLY that guy can fix anything...... nope


olin says the same thing

We certainly haven't seen it this year.


I think Olin is blaming it on play design. I expect him to be fired after the season.


Olin is right.

Reposting this from the other thread.


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Leno is OK as a blocker, but he gets the yellow flag thrown on his way too many times.

Massie is a turnstyle.


Leno is a terrible blocker. He's been bad for years but this year he is the worst left tackle in the NFL.

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I don't know details of o-line technique or play design. What I do know is what is blatantly obvious....the o-line is getting manhandled.


I agree 100%.

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Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
billypootons wrote:
can we get tom thayer on M&H so he can praise O-line guru herry heistand again.... because CLEARLY that guy can fix anything...... nope


olin says the same thing

We certainly haven't seen it this year.


I think Olin is blaming it on play design. I expect him to be fired after the season.


Olin is right.

Reposting this from the other thread.



Funniest part to me in the Sage things is the only guy they could have used to block the unblocked guy they sent in motion the wrong way. They must have thought that LB would follow him away.

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Exactly

The play would have worked leaving a back there to block...or bringing a TE or Wideout over to help block.

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The O-line has been terrible since week 1.

I’m glad some are just now realizing how crippling that is to an entire offense.


The problem is not with this board not realizing it. The problem really is that PACE didn't and maybe still hasn't realized it. It is further complicated is that not only are the two tackles terrible but that they didn't pan for Long not lasting the season but also didn't even sign or draft a good blocking tight end to help with our totally crap tackles. I think Pace should be fired. He's fucked up this offense and wasted an excellent defense in the process. :cry: :cry: :cry:

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